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pianolife

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Different Patchbays
#1021389 - 29/11/12 02:56 PM

Dear members of SoundOnSound,
I'd like to know something more about the advantages and disadvantages of having these sets of patchbays
- normalled
- normalled with listen jacks
- half-normalled
- double-innered

I basically got the principles, but I can't understand which may be the relative (dis)advantages.

Thank you very much.

All the best!

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Hugh Robjohns
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Re: Different Patchbays new

[Re: pianolife]
#1021407 - 29/11/12 04:23 PM

If you understand the principles then their relative advantages and weaknesses should be obvious.

Try reading these articles:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar98/articles/patchbays.html

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec99/articles/patchbay.htm

Hugh

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pianolife

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Re: Different Patchbays new

[Re: Hugh Robjohns]
#1021415 - 29/11/12 04:57 PM

Dear Hugh, thanks for your quick reply, I was reading your articles, and they are great!
I'm just not sure about one thing: is the double-innered the same that double-normalled?

Thank you very much!!

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Hugh Robjohns
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Re: Different Patchbays new

[Re: pianolife]
#1021430 - 29/11/12 06:47 PM

There is much confusion and alternative meanings when it comes to jackfield normalling, but my understanding is that double-innering is the same as double-normalling -- and that you need to plug leads into both sockets to break the signal path completely.

hugh

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GIK Acoustics

Joined: 05/09/12
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Loc: Atlanta, GA & Bradford, UK

Re: Different Patchbays new

[Re: pianolife]
#1021483 - 30/11/12 04:47 AM

The different setups of patchbays makes it possible to use all sorts of different equipment however you use it. There aren't really "advantages" and "disadvantages" but just different setups for what you need.

For example, I designed a patchbay for a friend who had multiple synthesizers. If the synths were just going to be plugged in straight to the mixing board, then normalled would be fine. However - we are hooking up all of the CV inputs - and have a Sherman filterbank that he will be routing things through as well. For this set up, non-normalled was best since we can plug any output into any CV input, route whatever we needed through the Moog filter or the Sherman filter and throw it to any output.

Though, the articles linked above clearly explain the differences excellently, so I'll just let those shine!

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