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DeWall516



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Home recording using direct outs
      #1034227 - 20/02/13 08:06 AM
So I am in a band and we play live shows quite regularly. We recently wanted to start recording some material and I have questions about a setup. I have a Mackie 32.4 that we use for live shows. I can currently do some shoddy recordings one track at a time which is great until you want to record drums. Then I need to record 8 tracks at once or just get a good drum mix and just hope it will suffice for the final recording g without being able to eq or add effects to each piece of the kit individually. My board has DB 25 direct outs on it (4 sets of 8) and I was wondering if there is a way for me to get my 8 drum tracks separately recorded into a program (probably cubase) and keep them separate the whole time? Any information on what kind of interface should I be after? Thanks ahead of time.


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Re: Home recording using direct outs new [Re: DeWall516]
      #1034228 - 20/02/13 08:15 AM
Quite simply, you need an audio interface with a minimum of 8 inputs. If the inputs include mic pre's then you can get that mixer out of the way, which would be preferable IMO.

There are plenty of options. SOS recently did a round-up of multi-channel interfaces HERE.

The older RME Fireface (not the UFX) is still my favourite at this time, for it's price, hassle-free drivers, TotalMix software and audio quality.

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Re: Home recording using direct outs new [Re: DeWall516]
      #1034229 - 20/02/13 08:29 AM
I would think the most cost effective solution would be the Tascam US 1600?

I know you are paying for mic pres' you don't need but I do not know of an 8 line input AI?

Dave.


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Re: Home recording using direct outs new [Re: DeWall516]
      #1034257 - 20/02/13 10:24 AM
If this is something you only need to do occasionally, then the most cost-effective solution would be to hire a multi-channel line-input recorder of some form, hook it into your desk, record your base tracks in the usual way, and then import the recorded tracks into Cubase from the hard disk afterwards. There are plenty of options for multitrack HDD recorders and all are pretty straightforward to use if you're recording analogue sources.

You could look, for examplem, at hiring something like the JoeCo Black Box recorder which can record all your direct outs in one hit, saving to disc as WAV files. You can then import the files to Cubase for mixing etc.

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Re: Home recording using direct outs new [Re: DeWall516]
      #1034260 - 20/02/13 10:32 AM
Starting to see a few of these
(Zoom R16)
on eBay now
eBay

Edited by shufflebeat (20/02/13 10:46 AM)


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Re: Home recording using direct outs new [Re: DeWall516]
      #1034289 - 20/02/13 12:28 PM
... and THIS looks interesting...

Also see THIS VIDEO from Sound on Sound TV


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Re: Home recording using direct outs new [Re: shufflebeat]
      #1034353 - 20/02/13 04:56 PM
Quote shufflebeat:

Starting to see a few of these
(Zoom R16)
on eBay now
eBay




Our bass player has one and we've used it to record the whole band. 4 mics on the kit (BD, SD 2x OH - Google the Glyn Johns method), DI from bass, emulated outs from guitar amps. Only issue we had was that it glitched when recording 8 tracks simultaneously at 24 bit (probably not the fastest SD card). Very easy to import the tracks in to Cubase for further editing / overdubs / mixing.

I've also used my Alesis Fusion 6HD in the past although this isn't as portable and its a bit of a pain getting the tracks into Cubase.


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Re: Home recording using direct outs new [Re: The Elf]
      #1034696 - 22/02/13 03:31 PM
I personally have used the Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 pre (8 tracks only) and with an Alesis HD24(great for live mic capture). As you have a line level source an Alesis HD24 will record up to 24 channels for you. There is normally an issue with monitoring your tracks but if you are using insert leads and putting compressors before the inputs and gates after the recorder this should be obvious from your out front sound (which will be compromised by recording and producing live sound at the same time)..... so FOH balancing only on the faders.
Other recorders from Mackie fostex tascam with in/outs will also work
keep the levels low....Test during rehersals and carry far too many cables..Good luck


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