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Justino



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Bespoke Garden Studio companies
      #1086883 - 04/02/14 10:08 AM
Can anyone out there share their experiences of using bespoke companies to build a garden studio? I've looked at the DIY approach but really I would really prefer that a specialist company take care of all the work, including soundproofing.


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Re: Bespoke Garden Studio companies new [Re: Justino]
      #1086898 - 04/02/14 10:58 AM
For starters I'd have a chat with Max at

http://www.maxtech-audio.com/

although I'm not sure whether he's still in the complete studio building business now. He'd still be a good person to use as a consultant.

My favoured route would be to take things in 2 stages. 1) Get a local builder to build a brick or block outer weatherproof structure and then 2) get a specialist studio soundproofing company to do the inner layer. Separating out the jobs will give you a wider choice of people to work with as most studio soundproofing/treatment companies don't seem to get involved with the weatherproofing side of things.

It may also help if you told use where you are located.

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Re: Bespoke Garden Studio companies new [Re: Justino]
      #1087015 - 04/02/14 05:09 PM
I too have been thinking about going down the bespoke garden studio route, and I've had quite a long email conversation with the chap who runs this company:

http://soundproofgardenstudios.co.uk/

As you say, the convenience of having someone else do it is very tempting, as is the idea that it can be manufactured off-site and assembled very quickly in the garden. What's put me off so far is that there don't seem to be any detailed measurements of acoustic isolation at different frequencies. I worry that no lightweight structure without proper foundations can really do the business at low frequencies.


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Re: Bespoke Garden Studio companies new [Re: Sam Inglis]
      #1087328 - 06/02/14 12:00 PM
Sam, I notice that on one of their pages they say
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None of our studios will completely silence something like a drum kit, but what they do is reduce them to a level which is generally acceptable.




so I don't think they are really performing miracles. I'm fairly sure that Max can do better than that, given the space and budget.

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Re: Bespoke Garden Studio companies new [Re: James Perrett]
      #1087382 - 06/02/14 03:08 PM
and i can prove it.





call me if you want to see first hand what can be achieved…..

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Re: Bespoke Garden Studio companies new [Re: Justino]
      #1090901 - 26/02/14 10:57 PM
I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has done this - I'm currently looking at a couple of the all-in-one suppliers, they're my preferred option but it's a lot of money to spend, and there doesn't seem to be a lot in the way of reviews from people who've had one installed...

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Re: Bespoke Garden Studio companies new [Re: OD23]
      #1090962 - 27/02/14 10:36 AM
Are you still based in Petersfield? If so you would be welcome to come over and see what I've done as I'm only 20 minutes drive away from you.

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Re: Bespoke Garden Studio companies new [Re: James Perrett]
      #1090979 - 27/02/14 11:24 AM
Quote:


None of our studios will completely silence something like a drum kit, but what they do is reduce them to a level which is generally acceptable.




A complaining neighbour will find ANY audibility of a drum kit unacceptable. You may find that a recording studio for rock music is just not appropriate in a residential area. Sorry.


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Re: Bespoke Garden Studio companies new [Re: Exalted Wombat]
      #1091249 - 28/02/14 08:09 PM
(unless it's properly designed and built…… ) just ask Neokoenig .

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Re: Bespoke Garden Studio companies new [Re: Exalted Wombat]
      #1091626 - 03/03/14 02:16 PM
There are too many people who build studios to the sort of standard that Sam links to above. An experienced designer can do far better. At my old studio we had a punk band in session one day. When I walked onto the pavement outside while they were playing I couldn't hear anything. You could hear something in the room above but by the next floor up they were inaudible.

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Re: Bespoke Garden Studio companies new [Re: Justino]
      #1092295 - 07/03/14 10:54 AM
James - thanks for the offer but I think you may have me confused with someone else, I'm based in east London.

I've just had an offer accepted on a house and was/am still planning to get one of the studios that Sam linked to. I'm nervous about it though, it's so much money and with no reviews or videos to show the level of sound reduction you're kind of going in blind... Plus I'm dubious about the amount of value it would add to the house, I can see a garden room with nice French doors would be worth something to the average house hunter, but a soundproof box with not much natural light coming in would have less appeal.

Aside from that though it does seem like the ideal solution for me as my partner and I are on very different schedules, and it won't be easy to work in the house after he gets home at 4pm. I would be happier if I could actually see one before buying though!

Sam - did you get much useful info from the people at Green Rooms? I'm wondering what the benefit of their 'acoustic' room is over the standard plastered version...

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Re: Bespoke Garden Studio companies new [Re: OD23]
      #1092301 - 07/03/14 11:36 AM
Quote OD23:

I would be happier if I could actually see one before buying though!




Any decent supplier should be able to arrange to take you to a previous installation somewhere for some first-hand experience. If they can't or won't I'd suggest walking away quickly... As you say, it's a major investment!

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Re: Bespoke Garden Studio companies new [Re: Justino]
      #1092321 - 07/03/14 01:46 PM
The guy who ran the Greenrooms company was very friendly and answered a lot of my questions over email, so do drop him a line. My plans have changed a bit in any case, and I think I'm going to build a conventional structure as we have a large concrete shed that can be demolished and replaced. The garden room seemed quite configurable as regards dimensions and shapes, but like I say, there seems to be no real data available about sound isolation, especially at low frequencies.


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Re: Bespoke Garden Studio companies new [Re: OD23]
      #1092326 - 07/03/14 02:18 PM
Quote OD23:

James - thanks for the offer but I think you may have me confused with someone else, I'm based in east London.





Ah - for some reason I thought you were in Petersfield but I must be thinking of someone else. I would definitely suggest that you take a look at people's work. I was initially thinking of a log cabin for my studio until I saw Steve Hill's and realisted that it wasn't a good starting point for a sound studio (though they make great art studios). I've also seen (and owned) other garden buildings where the soundproofing hasn't been great - there seem to be very few people who understand what is needed to do it properly. It would also be sensible to ask for noise reduction figures (in dB). As a guide, my last studio (which was professionally built) was specified with an attenuation of 65dB from inside to outside and my current studio achieves a similar attenuation according to my cheap sound level meter.

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