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Dave B



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Mopho x4
      #1002672 - 09/08/12 11:33 PM
Hmmnnnnn ..... I saw the announcement of a 4 voice keyboard in the Mopho range and it kind of confuses me. What I _think_ it is, is a 4 voice polyphonic Tetra with no multi mode. What I was hoping for was more like a keyboard version of the Tetra - 4 voices, but 4 monophonic synths in a nice multi mode unit. Preferably with at least another set of outputs.

I'm sure it's a lovely synth, but it's half a Prophet 08. Bet it won't cost half the price. And I still would have to have a Tetra for multiple mono synths in one unit.

Bit of an odd move in my exceedingly humble opinion. Hope I'm proven wrong..

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Re: Mopho x4 new [Re: Dave B]
      #1002727 - 10/08/12 10:35 AM
UK list price is £869, which makes it more than half the cost of a P08. Compared to the Mopho keyboard though it's not a bad deal, and it's still cheaper than the Evolver mono keyboard.

Regarding multitimbrality, I'm not so sure it's a problem. If multitimbrality is going to see most use in pre-programmed/sequenced environments, the Tetra seems like a good choice as it stands. The Mopho X4 keyboard is only 44-key, so there's not really room for splits, and layering would reduce the voices to one or two anyway. At which point, you might as well just get a Tetra, and external keyboard for when you need it. But it seems like a safe way to fill a gap in their line-up - there'll be plenty of people wanting a new 4-voice analogue poly with decent front-panel control and and keys for noticeably less than a grand.


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Dave B



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Re: Mopho x4 new [Re: Dave B]
      #1002812 - 10/08/12 06:05 PM
DV have it listed for 917 .... where'd you see the 869 price?

Yeah ... I think I want a Tetra. But it would be nice if I didn't have to buy a separate keyboard as well ..

Interesting that one of those + a Tetra is arguably about the same price and a better synth than a P08!

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Re: Mopho x4 new [Re: Dave B]
      #1002860 - 11/08/12 07:27 AM
however, when you're on a tight budget and cannot afford a P8, this is a way to get a full polyphonic synth in a few steps:

First a Mopho desktop with a cheap midi controller, then a Mopho 4X, and finally a Tetra to add more voices...


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Chaconne



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Re: Mopho x4 new [Re: Dave B]
      #1002915 - 11/08/12 02:59 PM
It looks really nice and compact, bit like the Sixtrak, which it would mirror if it was multi timbral - missed a trick there.

Just one thing though - whats with the 4 voices? Most, if not all of the coveted synths from the past were 6 voice. I know someone will post a list of great 4 voices, but all the nice Rolands, the afforadble Sequential and Oberheims are six voice, which is just about the minimum. At least it allows a triad and octave bass support - a signature polysynth power sound - doable on a P5.

Surely with well developed hybrid digital control technology an extra voice or two is not a significant outlay?

I guess its all price points for the P8 etc etc but I think there is a market for a classic 6 voice no nonesense poly.

Anyhow, the DSI line up is looking great right now if no one elses is!

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nathanscribe



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Re: Mopho x4 new [Re: Dave B]
      #1002946 - 11/08/12 09:21 PM
Quote Dave B:

DV have it listed for 917 .... where'd you see the 869 price?




DV. Cheeky blighters put it up!

As for 4 voices being limiting, well, there's always the Jupiter 4 or Poly Evolver (both 4 voices) and I didn't feel crippled by those. I think it's more about the sound than how many voices it's got, though I'd consider 4 the minimum for useful poly.

Besides, if 4 turns out to be not enough, you can use the Poly Chain feature to add a Mopho module, and it'd sit nicely at the right of that top panel...


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Dave B



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Re: Mopho x4 new [Re: Chaconne]
      #1002982 - 12/08/12 10:29 AM
Quote Chaconne:

Just one thing though - whats with the 4 voices? Most, if not all of the coveted synths from the past were 6 voice. I know someone will post a list of great 4 voices, but all the nice Rolands, the afforadble Sequential and Oberheims are six voice, which is just about the minimum. At least it allows a triad and octave bass support - a signature polysynth power sound - doable on a P5.




Some synths and their polyphonies :

Roland Jupiter 4
Roland Jupiter 8
Oberheim 2 Voice
Oberheim 4 Voice
Prohpet 5

The clue is in the name here ..

CS80 was 8 voice.

OBX was actually sold as a 4voice base unit with optional voice cards to take it to 8 (mine was a 7voice)

Roland only hit 6 for the Juno range

Sequential only hit six in about 82/83 - and most of those units were aimed at trying to build a domestic market

You score points for the Memory Moog, the Matrix 6/1000 and the Jupiter 6 though

(even though I'd only class one of those as 'coveted')

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Chaconne



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Re: Mopho x4 new [Re: Dave B]
      #1003108 - 12/08/12 07:43 PM
As I said, I knew a list of great 'less than 6 voice' synths would follow...

Anyhow, my point was, as the technology got better developed, and digital control became the norm, so price per voice fell. I was just wondering why we cant have a mid priced 6 voice analog poly from someone - I wonder if anyone actually knows about the relative cost of adding / subtracting actual voices once the overall architecture is in place.

Obviously in the begining, a 'voice' was a whole discreet synthesiser, polyphony meant multiplying everthing thing just about. Towards the end of the manufacture of analog synths, you could replace the voice on a 'chip' without to much expense. But does this mean that adapting the control architecture is any easier than when a voice took up a whole 'card'?

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Re: Mopho x4 new [Re: Dave B]
      #1003254 - 13/08/12 11:41 AM
I suspect if they'd gone for a 6-voice, it would impact sales of the P08 more significantly, and would be nearer to it in cost as well. 4 seems like a workable compromise. It also fills a little gap in the line-up, as they've now got a complete set of mono, 4-voice and 8-voice modules and keyboards, in the analogue realm anyway. The Evolvers have always been mono and 4-voice. But anyway, they can be chained to make as many voices as you want, supposing you have the wonga.


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