turtles
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Gooseneck mic recommendation
#995429 - 29/06/12 05:34 PM
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Short and sweet, this one.
New HoW venue almost complete. New lectern has been
requested, one with integrated xlrs in the top so lends itself to a gooseneck.
Thus far I've used an AT8033 as a lectern mic as it's fairly forgiving of position- but
has a rather scooped sound which I find underwhelming. Not used goosenecks before.
Anything in the £100-150 budget that's worth a look?
Ta.
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MarkOne
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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation
[Re: turtles]
#995530 - 30/06/12 04:56 PM
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We've got an Audio Technica Pro49Q http://www.dv247.com/microphones/audio-technica-pro-49ql--70156 doing
lectern duties plugged into an AT 8646 shockmount XLR plate in the top of the lectern. http://www.studiospares.com/mic-mountings/audio-technica-8646qm/invt/44080
0/?source=215_74, and it pretty much does the job. I was at a conference
earlier this month and the podium had been set up with an AKG C747 and it sounded
amazingly natural. When we need to replace the Pro49 I am certainly putting that on my
shopping list.
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dmills
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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation
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#995535 - 30/06/12 05:22 PM
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I second the C747 is your budget will stretch to it (Also, how prone are your lecturers to
move around? The 747 is quite a narrow pattern)....
Regards, Dan.
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turtles
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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation
[Re: dmills]
#995550 - 30/06/12 07:36 PM
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Budget probably won't stretch to a 747 - plus, the preachers are fairly mobile and the
lectern point often has more than one person standing at it for interviews etc. A slightly
wider cardioid would be more forgiving. Like the look of those ATs, though, and worth a
punt at that price point I guess...
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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation
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#995573 - 30/06/12 10:05 PM
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How many xlr's have you got in the new lectern? I bought 2 samson goosenecks a while back
for our school and although they are not the best they certainly do enough. can't remember
the exact model but were about £65 each
Our hall is a nightmare for feedback
(will be adding an eq just for the goosenecks soon) and have just used the 3 band eq on
the desk to quash said feedback so they are very thin sounding at the moment. Hopefully
will be able to warm the sound again up a bit with the eq. As we sit 300 students in a
room 16m x 14m, whoever is speaking has to turn to address the wings on a regular basis,
hence the 2 units for coverage
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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation
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#995588 - 01/07/12 12:31 AM
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What is the main usage? It's good to have the option of goosenecks if your
lectern has the facility. But if the main users are more mobile I would make a long term
plan to get a good lavalier or two, belt packs and a radio receiver. And in the short term
I would get a cheaper gooseneck with the option of a second later for maximum
flexibility. That way your regular speakers get the freedom of movement they
need, but there is something reasonable for the typical occasional speaker who needs a
reassuring grip on the lectern. Andy
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turtles
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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation
[Re: zenguitar]
#995655 - 01/07/12 06:03 PM
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Two xlr sockets on top of the lectern. Very visible (perspex), so looking for short
mounting stems.
Already have a bunch of lavs and over-ear mics for the more mobile
users- but several users are most comfortable in a static position and their preference is
for a fixed mic. As they are the onse doing the talking, my job is to keep them
comfortable so hence looking for a gooseneck that will do the job.
Must admit
i have never really worked out the reason for two xlr sockets (or two mics, for that
matter) unless it's to do with redundancy in the event of a failure. To my mind, two mics
close together pointing at the same source, but a little bit apart from each other, will
cause phasing/ combing if the signals are combined- hence a weedy, reedy sound. It's not
like these are eveer set up as xy config...
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seablade
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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation
[Re: turtles]
#995660 - 01/07/12 07:38 PM
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Quote turtles:
Two xlr sockets on
top of the lectern. Very visible (perspex), so looking for short mounting stems. Already have a bunch of lavs and over-ear mics for the more mobile users- but several
users are most comfortable in a static position and their preference is for a fixed mic.
As they are the onse doing the talking, my job is to keep them comfortable so hence
looking for a gooseneck that will do the job.
Must admit i have never really
worked out the reason for two xlr sockets (or two mics, for that matter) unless it's to do
with redundancy in the event of a failure. To my mind, two mics close together pointing at
the same source, but a little bit apart from each other, will cause phasing/ combing if
the signals are combined- hence a weedy, reedy sound. It's not like these are eveer set up
as xy config...
Sennheiser
ME36 mics might be worth the look then.
In as far as why two XLRs, it is
primarily for redundancy in most cases I have dealt with. If one starts having problems
you switch to the other. You may even be able to get an automixer to do this
automatically in certain cases as well, but you are better off doing it manually.
Especially in broadcast this is fairly standard practice to my knowledge (Keeping in
mind I don't do much with broadcast and haven't for a little bit now). The basic thinking
applies to anywhere though, if any moment of your show depends on one cable, mic, light,
whatever, have a backup ready to go when it fails(And thanks to Murphy, it will).
Seablade
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turtles
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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation
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#995680 - 01/07/12 10:08 PM
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Thanks. Hadn't considered Sennheiser and I like the idea of chopping/changing capsules if
needed keeping the gooseneck stable. Will have a look!
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