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Devin
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Able to control ipad via USB as a synth?
      #1039227 - 21/03/13 12:39 PM
I have a bunch of awesome apps for the ipad (animoog!) but can't figure out how to control the ipad via midi so I can use it with my pc/cubase system.

I thought this would have been simple to do over USB just like most modern external synths...

Have I missed something obvious?


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Re: Able to control ipad via USB as a synth? new [Re: Devin]
      #1039649 - 24/03/13 05:00 PM
This should give you a start:

Mid Interfaces


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Re: Able to control ipad via USB as a synth? new [Re: Devin]
      #1039665 - 24/03/13 08:29 PM
Quote Devin:


I thought this would have been simple to do over USB just like most modern external synths...





I'm not aware of this being supported, not even if you were using a Mac as the sequencer host. I think you will need a MIDI interface for your iPad (e.g. the iRig) and connect that to the MIDI interface of your PC.

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Re: Able to control ipad via USB as a synth? new [Re: Devin]
      #1039706 - 25/03/13 05:03 AM
The available iPad MIDI interfaces are intended for use with controllers having conventional round (DIN) MIDI ports, not for USB MIDI connections.

With earlier iPads (1-3) connecting USB MIDI controllers was possible using a dock-USB "camera connection kit" adapter, if the MIDI controller was "Core MIDI compatibile" and so did not need any special drivers to be installed. It's sometimes necessary to use a powered USB hub, especially if the MIDI controller requires USB power, because iPads can't supply much (if any) USB power. Dunno about latest iPads with the new Lightning connector though.

Another option with the earlier iPads is using something like the Alesis IODock together with a computer, with the USB MIDI controller being connected to a USB port on the computer and the computer connected to the IODock by a USB cable, whereby MIDI data is passed via the computer to/from the docked iPad.


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Re: Able to control ipad via USB as a synth? new [Re: Devin]
      #1039708 - 25/03/13 06:02 AM
focusrite itrack solo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cqq5bJ3PtI

audiolink: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cqq5bJ3PtI

irig: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR30Dnc-cDI

tascam ixz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EH48HWWXbY

theres a couple more but i hope ive at least pointed you in the right direction.

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Devin
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Re: Able to control ipad via USB as a synth? new [Re: Devin]
      #1040828 - 01/04/13 09:46 PM
Thanks for the links, I am still baffled as to why (someone) hasnt written a USB to Midi driver without having need for a bulky dongle thing attached to the ipad.


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Re: Able to control ipad via USB as a synth? new [Re: Devin]
      #1040832 - 01/04/13 09:57 PM
It does seem bizarre if you can't. I'm sure Android can handle it.

I'm wondering if you could do it over wireless...the way the manufacturers of this $200 wired solution whine about the shortcomings of a wireless method makes me suspicious.

http://www.iconnectivity.com/iConnectMIDI

(Picked up the link from here...might be worth flipping through.)

http://zachberry.com/blog/incorporating-an-ipad-into-a-daw-controlled-stud io/


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Goddard



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Re: Able to control ipad via USB as a synth? new [Re: Devin]
      #1040853 - 02/04/13 04:34 AM
Quote Devin:

I am still baffled as to why (someone) hasnt written a USB to Midi driver without having need for a bulky dongle thing attached to the ipad.




It's not a driver issue (iOS already includes CoreMIDI dock driver), it's simply an I/O connector issue due to there being no USB or MIDI ports on the iPad and no dock connector on your MIDI controller.

So, given that, how else would you expect to connect your USB MIDI controller than via a dock connector USB adapter (dongle)?

Btw, it is certainly possible to do MIDI I/O over WiFi, iOS supports CoreMIDI networking and there are apps which can do that, e.g.:

http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/rtpmidi/rtpmidi-tutorial.html < br />
http://hexler.net/software/touchosc

Not sure about MIDI over Bluetooth, might be possible but haven't seen any BT MIDI I/O apps or peripherals yet.



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Re: Able to control ipad via USB as a synth? new [Re: BJG145]
      #1045318 - 27/04/13 10:37 AM
Quote BJG145:

It does seem bizarre if you can't. I'm sure Android can handle it.




Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ... Ha.... Ha......... Ha....

If it could handle a soft synth that plays with less than several hundred mS latency I'm sure that would even be useful.

(Forgive me if my info is out of date and Android finally has caught up in this respect... I just googled "audio latency android" and it seems like it might be possible, albeit only with certain devices. Now we just have to wait for some decent audio apps on the platform)



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DGL.



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Re: Able to control ipad via USB as a synth? new [Re: Devin]
      #1045337 - 27/04/13 12:42 PM
Quote Devin:

Thanks for the links, I am still baffled as to why (someone) hasnt written a USB to Midi driver without having need for a bulky dongle thing attached to the ipad.




Esi have one, all the electronics are built into the dock connector

http://www.esi-audio.com/products/midintourcx/


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