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Everstone



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Help for Audio interfaces
      #1002748 - 10/08/12 11:57 AM
Hi, I have decided to buy an interface. I need your help
What do you think about this interfaces? Which can I buy ?
1- Tc elektronic Konnekt 6
2- M-audio fasttrack C 400
3- Focusrite saffire pro 14
4- Focusrite saffire 6
5- Presonus AudioBox 22VSL
Guys I really need someone who used them to hear some advices. Midi is not important for me. I want only record good quality guitar solos without latency. I am mostly looking forward to hear something about Tc elektronic and M-audio

Than you.. !


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Pete Kaine
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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: Everstone]
      #1002776 - 10/08/12 02:07 PM
Latency wise the two in that price bracket you should be looking at would be:

Usb - Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6.
FireWire - Maudio Profire 610

If your more concerned about the preamps than the latency then the Saffires are your choice and the 6 over the 14 so you don't have to mess around with FW.

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Everstone



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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: Pete Kaine]
      #1002809 - 10/08/12 05:54 PM
Thank you man for reply. They are a little expensive. I will buy one of them in musicstore so these models are available for me . So do you think in this list they are not good ?


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G-Doubleyou



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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: Everstone]
      #1002815 - 10/08/12 06:50 PM
What is your hardware?

Firewire, USB work fine on Mac.

Firewire can be problematic on PC, some hardware wants to see a TI firewire chip.
USB works fine.

Do more research if going firewire.





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BJG145



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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: Everstone]
      #1002828 - 10/08/12 09:14 PM
Suitable firewire cards are cheap. I'm not familiar with the hardware in the OP's list, but is it really so bad...?


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Everstone



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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: G-Doubleyou]
      #1002868 - 11/08/12 09:04 AM
I have PC. I asked today musicstore and They recommend me Fasttrack C400. Really I can't decide
If I buy firewire sound card. I will buy texas instrument chip set then I will use interface.
When I am playing guitar with a backing track in cubase or pro tools , I don't want latency. I want to play real time with backing track.And I think in c400 there are good mixer Dsp effects in c400.


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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: Everstone]
      #1002881 - 11/08/12 11:01 AM
Everstone, the NI Ka6 really is good.

What is often forgotten about Fwire is its comparative rarerity. Most mid priced PCs and laptops don't have it and if you do find it on a laptop it will not bus power the AI, and of course even if your mate's PC HAS fussywire it won't be TI!

Usb is just that, pretty universal. My Ka6 works fine on a 2.7G 2core W7/64 desktop, a W7 i3 laptop, an Asus MOBO XP pro and a 3G P4 XP Home (tho' I can't get 64 sample latency on the latter without glitches!)
Yes, I could wish for 6dB or so more micamp gain but even so, acoustic guitar with an SM57 is perfectly possible, my house is noisier!

If you are UK check out guitarguitar.com for a good deal on the Ka6.
Dave.


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Everstone



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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: ef37a]
      #1003195 - 12/08/12 11:02 PM
I checked this audio interface but I think I like Tc.

Thank you


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Goddard



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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: Everstone]
      #1003201 - 12/08/12 11:49 PM
Quote Everstone:

I checked this audio interface but I think I like Tc.

Thank you




I like TC's gear also, but am definitely not a fan of their Dice II FW chipset and it high system loading and their drivers' use of "safety buffering", which issues can also affect other manufacturer's FW interfaces also using same Dice II FW.

Suggest you do some research about "Dice II" before you purchase.


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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: Goddard]
      #1003222 - 13/08/12 09:00 AM
+1 To Goddards comments above, and the Saffire 14 runs the DICE controller as well. If anything I'd consider the Scarlett 2i2 or another one from that part of the range over both older Saffire models as the newer driver releases show some marked improvements over the older hardware.

Quote Everstone:

So do you think in this list they are not good ?




You asked what had the best latency in that price bracket.

Your stateside I take it? Going off Sweetwater I see what you mean about the Profire... that's a hell of a mark up over the Euro/Sterling prices! The KA6 comes in for $20 less than the Saffire 14 through.

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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: Everstone]
      #1003461 - 14/08/12 09:20 AM
I've had the Konnekt 6 for a few years now and I'm over the moon with it, it's definitely one of the best in it's price range and the converters are brilliant. Plus TC support is great as well, dare I say it but it's on par with UAD support.

Check out the SOS review:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct08/articles/desktopkonnekt6.htm

(The 'Final Thoughts' at the end of the article is the bit that sold me!)

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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: Everstone]
      #1003738 - 15/08/12 07:07 PM
Not sure what kind of PC you have but there are some laptops still available with Express Card slot (I recently bought a HP Probook 4530s) and you can add a fw card with TI chipset for another $30.

I prefer FW but if it is just for a single guitar which I assume will be 1 to 2 inputs the most you can get a USB card with realtime monitoring mixer (I think all PreSonus have that, as well as most others) so that way you won't be affected by the latency.

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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: Everstone]
      #1003752 - 15/08/12 10:01 PM
Just to throw some further info into the mix, I recently played through the DI input on a MOTU Microbook II and it worked just fine (with a Mac) for monitoring with onboard fx while playing to recorded tracks. The DI input could have been a bit more sensitive to my liking (with a Strat connected, the LED level meter never budged above the base reading) but the sound was fine.

However, I ended up taking home a Tascam iU2 interface instead of the MOTU unit, partly because the iU2 also works with an iPad via its dock connector as well as with PC and Mac via USB, but mostly because I found its DI to be more sensitive and better suited to my playing style (the single level meter LED glows at different intensities). The iU2's lack of onboard DSP fx was not a concern for me, as I have a VS-20 already. And in any event, latency really hasn't been that noticeable when playing through Amplitude and Garageband on iPad (easy enough to monitor, with the iU2's mix control knob).

Finally, perhaps something to bear in mind if primary interest is tracking guitar, in my (albeit, rather limited) experience, regarding the DI (Hi-Z) inputs on audio interfaces, it seems that some interface manufacturers don't concern themselves all that much with their DI inputs.


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Everstone



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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: Everstone]
      #1003930 - 16/08/12 07:46 PM
Guys, What about preams? And AD-DA conventers?


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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: Goddard]
      #1003968 - 17/08/12 01:01 AM
Quote Goddard:

Quote Everstone:

I checked this audio interface but I think I like Tc.

Thank you




I like TC's gear also, but am definitely not a fan of their Dice II FW chipset and it high system loading and their drivers' use of "safety buffering", which issues can also affect other manufacturer's FW interfaces also using same Dice II FW.

Suggest you do some research about "Dice II" before you purchase.




Heh, should have taken my own advice, and done some research before posting so that I would have known that "Dice II" went 'end of life' in 2009 and was replaced by newer "Dice Jr" and "Dice Mini" versions.

So it is more than possible that more recent FW interfaces use the newer Dice versions. Dunno if drivers for newer Dice versions inherited same issues as from Dice II but would hope not (might be worthy of further research).

I really did like the Konnect 24D, but unfortunately my DAW never cared all that much for it...


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Re: Help for Audio interfaces new [Re: Everstone]
      #1004179 - 18/08/12 10:48 AM
I think there are some cards that also have a built in effects engine for monitoring so that way you don't tax the system while tracking. In my case when I do late night sessions where I can't mic it I run a DI split signal with one end going clean into the DAW and the other one providing a monitor mix via my Boss GT-10. I reamp afterwards through one of my tube amps at full blast, when the missus is not around, of course

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