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Russell Burke



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Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X
      #1025432 - 21/12/12 12:41 PM
I was wondering if anyone is using these sound cards as I really need to upgrade mine they are 10 years old (Motu 828's) and cause problems when I boot up the computer I can never rely on what order they will open plus they are starting to hum a little.
Having just upgraded to Cubase 7 (wonderful upgrade) and a good royalty check arriving I thought I'd buy 2 MR816 X (I need 32ch for live recording) as they are made to work fully with cubase.
So my question really is has anyone had any problems with these cards or are they a good deal for the money?

Cheers Russell

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Richie Royale



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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X new [Re: Russell Burke]
      #1025440 - 21/12/12 01:19 PM
I consider one when I was in the market for a new interface but I settled with an RME Fireface 800 and would recommend one to anyone else without hesitation.

I've not tried the Steinberg, but the RME is rock solid, has two ADAT ports so you can add a further 16 inputs to it plus it has 10 as standard.

But there are many other options available.

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Strangy



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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X new [Re: Russell Burke]
      #1025453 - 21/12/12 02:19 PM
I also considered a pair of these but chose PCI in the end (had firewire connectivity issues with a previous interface from a different manufacturer)…

Anyway, I recall an issue that when daisy-chaining 2 units you cannot direct monitor all of the inputs from one set of outputs… there was a partial work-around using ADAT: Thread is here: http://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=5984&start=150

Whether it’s a real problem (for your use) or just makes things impractical I’m not sure sorry but thought I’d point it out for you. Steinberg have since said they are not planning to/cannot fix this.


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Russell Burke



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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X new [Re: Strangy]
      #1025547 - 22/12/12 09:54 AM
Thanks for your reply and the information.
As for the monitoring I don't think that it would be a problem for me as all the monitoring in my studio is through the studio desk only using 2 channels for what ever is coming out of Cubase.
I have a 424 PCIe card im my computer but because I need 32 channels the simplest (and Cheapest)way is to have 2 units that give me 16 each. I thought of using 2 Motu 24I/O but then the cost of the upgrade almost doubles and I wouldn't have the advantage of the effects included in the MR816's.
If the monitoring problem is the only problem I think I could live with that.

Cheers Russell

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Exalted Wombat



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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X new [Re: Russell Burke]
      #1025567 - 22/12/12 11:41 AM
Who actually makes the MR816? It's an attractive product, but Steinberg has a history of outsourcing hardware design and manufacture, then forgetting to maintain it. When software or operating system moves on and demands new drivers, you throw the hardware away. Now, if Yamaha used the MR816 with any of its other products, I might be more optimistic.


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Russell Burke



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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X new [Re: Exalted Wombat]
      #1025570 - 22/12/12 11:53 AM
It is made by Yamaha and Steinberg and I have a lot of faith in Yamaha products as they are normally robust and well designed.
I like the idea of the effects included though i can't seem to find out what all the features are using cubase.

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ronmac



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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X new [Re: Russell Burke]
      #1025585 - 22/12/12 01:07 PM
I have been using the newer USB connected model, UR824, and have found it a nice and stable product. Not using Cubase, so unable t advise on that.

I also use a RME FF800 and have to give that the nod for drivers and routing possibilities.


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Exalted Wombat



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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X new [Re: Russell Burke]
      #1025586 - 22/12/12 01:13 PM
Quote Russell Burke:

It is made by Yamaha and Steinberg and I have a lot of faith in Yamaha products as they are normally robust and well designed.
I like the idea of the effects included though i can't seem to find out what all the features are using cubase.




It's actually Yamaha hardware is it? Not an outsourced side-project like previous "Steinberg" labelled hardware.

Interesting that on-board effects are finally appearing on pro(ish)-level gear. (Was it the Echo Gina that first boasted a dsp chip, but before anything got implemented software effects flooded the market?) The possibility of adding a bit of ultra-low latency reverb to a vocal monitor loop-back output is something many people will appreciate.


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Fishnish



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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X new [Re: Exalted Wombat]
      #1025623 - 22/12/12 10:01 PM
Yes it's made by Yamaha.
I use the MR816 CSX with Cubase 6.5 It's rock solid and well integrated with the software. Nice sounding piece of kit. It's simple to set up, and the onboard effects are excellent, and easy to control either from the input channel strips, or as external FX.

I'm aware of the direct monitoring issue when daisy chaining units that's mentioned above but that doesn't impact on my work mode at all.

Also, there have been some issues reported from Steinberg around using MR816 with Cubase 7. as far as I recall this is something to do with the effects side of things rather than the interface side, and is to be fixed in an update due 01/13, full details are on the Steinberg site. That's one of the reasons why I haven't jumped into C7 just yet, but will be doing so very shortly..

Edited by Fishnish (22/12/12 10:03 PM)


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