Russell Burke
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Loc: Germany
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Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X
#1025432 - 21/12/12 12:41 PM
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I was wondering if anyone is using these sound cards as I really need to upgrade mine
they are 10 years old (Motu 828's) and cause problems when I boot up the computer I can
never rely on what order they will open plus they are starting to hum a little.
Having just upgraded to Cubase 7 (wonderful upgrade) and a good royalty check arriving I
thought I'd buy 2 MR816 X (I need 32ch for live recording) as they are made to work fully
with cubase. So my question really is has anyone had any problems with these cards
or are they a good deal for the money?
Cheers Russell
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Richie Royale
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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X
[Re: Russell Burke]
#1025440 - 21/12/12 01:19 PM
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I consider one when I was in the market for a new interface but I settled with an RME
Fireface 800 and would recommend one to anyone else without hesitation. I've
not tried the Steinberg, but the RME is rock solid, has two ADAT ports so you can add a
further 16 inputs to it plus it has 10 as standard. But there are many other
options available.
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Strangy
Joined: 27/12/04
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Loc: Cardiff, UK
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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X
[Re: Russell Burke]
#1025453 - 21/12/12 02:19 PM
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I also considered a pair of these but chose PCI in the end (had firewire connectivity
issues with a previous interface from a different manufacturer)… Anyway, I
recall an issue that when daisy-chaining 2 units you cannot direct monitor all of the
inputs from one set of outputs… there was a partial work-around using ADAT: Thread is
here: http://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=5984&start=150
Whether it’s a real problem (for your use) or just makes things
impractical I’m not sure sorry but thought I’d point it out for you. Steinberg have
since said they are not planning to/cannot fix this.
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Russell Burke
Joined: 15/02/05
Posts: 69
Loc: Germany
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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X
[Re: Strangy]
#1025547 - 22/12/12 09:54 AM
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Thanks for your reply and the information. As for the monitoring I don't think that
it would be a problem for me as all the monitoring in my studio is through the studio desk
only using 2 channels for what ever is coming out of Cubase. I have a 424 PCIe card
im my computer but because I need 32 channels the simplest (and Cheapest)way is to have 2
units that give me 16 each. I thought of using 2 Motu 24I/O but then the cost of the
upgrade almost doubles and I wouldn't have the advantage of the effects included in the
MR816's. If the monitoring problem is the only problem I think I could live with
that.
Cheers Russell
-------------------- The Devil made me do it the first time, the second time I did it on me own.
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Exalted Wombat
Joined: 06/02/10
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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X
[Re: Russell Burke]
#1025567 - 22/12/12 11:41 AM
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Who actually makes the MR816? It's an attractive product, but Steinberg has a history of
outsourcing hardware design and manufacture, then forgetting to maintain it. When
software or operating system moves on and demands new drivers, you throw the hardware
away. Now, if Yamaha used the MR816 with any of its other products, I might be more
optimistic.
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Russell Burke
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Loc: Germany
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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X
[Re: Exalted Wombat]
#1025570 - 22/12/12 11:53 AM
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It is made by Yamaha and Steinberg and I have a lot of faith in Yamaha products as they
are normally robust and well designed. I like the idea of the effects included
though i can't seem to find out what all the features are using cubase.
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ronmac
Joined: 27/09/06
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Loc: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X
[Re: Russell Burke]
#1025585 - 22/12/12 01:07 PM
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I have been using the newer USB connected model, UR824, and have found it a nice and
stable product. Not using Cubase, so unable t advise on that.
I also use a RME
FF800 and have to give that the nod for drivers and routing possibilities.
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Exalted Wombat
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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X
[Re: Russell Burke]
#1025586 - 22/12/12 01:13 PM
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Quote Russell Burke:
It is made
by Yamaha and Steinberg and I have a lot of faith in Yamaha products as they are normally
robust and well designed. I like the idea of the effects included though i can't
seem to find out what all the features are using cubase.
It's actually Yamaha hardware is it? Not an
outsourced side-project like previous "Steinberg" labelled hardware.
Interesting that on-board effects are finally appearing on pro(ish)-level gear. (Was it
the Echo Gina that first boasted a dsp chip, but before anything got implemented software
effects flooded the market?) The possibility of adding a bit of ultra-low latency reverb
to a vocal monitor loop-back output is something many people will appreciate.
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Fishnish
Joined: 24/12/10
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Re: Steinberg Yamaha MR816 X
[Re: Exalted Wombat]
#1025623 - 22/12/12 10:01 PM
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Yes it's made by Yamaha.
I use the MR816 CSX with Cubase 6.5 It's rock solid and
well integrated with the software. Nice sounding piece of kit. It's simple to set up, and
the onboard effects are excellent, and easy to control either from the input channel
strips, or as external FX.
I'm aware of the direct monitoring issue when
daisy chaining units that's mentioned above but that doesn't impact on my work mode at
all.
Also, there have been some issues reported from Steinberg around using
MR816 with Cubase 7. as far as I recall this is something to do with the effects side of
things rather than the interface side, and is to be fixed in an update due 01/13, full
details are on the Steinberg site. That's one of the reasons why I haven't jumped into C7
just yet, but will be doing so very shortly..
Edited by Fishnish (22/12/12 10:03 PM)
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