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Parco



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So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products?
      #1058589 - 22/07/13 10:32 AM
Can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 or more adjacent sockets of RME products?
e.g. M-16/32 AD/DA, ADI-8 QS, OctaMic II, Fireface, Multiface, etc.....

Any RME users had ever tried before or know?



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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Parco]
      #1058621 - 22/07/13 12:04 PM
I use Neutrik PX series plugs for almost everything and have never found a situation where I can't plug into adjacent sockets on any equipment.

The PX-series TRS plug has an overall diameter of 14.5mm.

The C-series TRS plug is a little wider, with an overall diameter of 16.2mm.

The 'Jumboplug' TRS plug, which is intended more for speaker lead cables, has an OD of 20.3mm

So... all you need to do is measure the spacing of the sockets on your RME equipment (I'd suggest measuring from right-hand edge to right-hand edge, or top to top --rather than try to guess where the centres are!).

If the spacing is less than 16.2mm, the C-series plugs won't fit. If the spacing is less than 14.5mm, the PX series won't fit either!

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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Parco]
      #1058721 - 22/07/13 08:32 PM
It's hard to tell from the picture, but I think you'll be OK with these. The only things I ever had trouble plugging into my RME FFUC were XLR-to-TRS adapters -- can't fit two side by side.


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Parco



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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1058768 - 23/07/13 06:03 AM
Quote Hugh Robjohns:

I use Neutrik PX series plugs for almost everything and have never found a situation where I can't plug into adjacent sockets on any equipment.

The PX-series TRS plug has an overall diameter of 14.5mm.

The C-series TRS plug is a little wider, with an overall diameter of 16.2mm.

The 'Jumboplug' TRS plug, which is intended more for speaker lead cables, has an OD of 20.3mm

So... all you need to do is measure the spacing of the sockets on your RME equipment (I'd suggest measuring from right-hand edge to right-hand edge, or top to top --rather than try to guess where the centres are!).

If the spacing is less than 16.2mm, the C-series plugs won't fit. If the spacing is less than 14.5mm, the PX series won't fit either!

H





And then I wanna know that, what is the series and diameter of this type of Neutrik TRS plug?


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Edited by Parco (23/07/13 06:03 AM)


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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Parco]
      #1058775 - 23/07/13 07:19 AM
Um, have you tried working it out for yourself?

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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: ConcertinaChap]
      #1058786 - 23/07/13 08:31 AM
Quote ConcertinaChap:

Um, have you tried working it out for yourself?

CC




Tried it in many centuries ago but not found

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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Parco]
      #1058789 - 23/07/13 08:44 AM
Quote Parco:

And then I wanna know that, what is the series and diameter of this type of Neutrik TRS plug?




It's not a neutrik plug -- at least, not a current one.

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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Parco]
      #1058800 - 23/07/13 09:12 AM
Quote Parco:

Tried it in many centuries ago but not found




Well, perhaps you have already had your answer.

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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1058810 - 23/07/13 09:55 AM
Quote Hugh Robjohns:

Quote Parco:

And then I wanna know that, what is the series and diameter of this type of Neutrik TRS plug?




It's not a neutrik plug -- at least, not a current one.

H




Sorry, should be this one



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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Parco]
      #1058812 - 23/07/13 10:05 AM
I'm sure they have GOOGLE in Hong Kong...

That plug is a REAN plug -- a subsidiary and independent Neutrik company. Rean plugs are cheaper and not as well made as proper Neutrik connectors. The cable clamp, in particular, is vastly inferior. However, the body diameter of that style of Rean plug is 12.5mm.

You will find all the information you need about REAN plugs HERE

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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1058819 - 23/07/13 10:24 AM
Looks like the lightweight plug would be fine for a studio installation. RME make great audio interfaces, but they have been known to cut corners on manufacturing. I remember discussion on their support forum of a batch of Fireface 800s with faulty sockets, and they have been known to commit the cardinal sin of supporting jacks only by their soldered connection to the motherboard.

A heavyweight jack plug is not "better" in these circumstances. It puts unnecessary extra stress on the socket and is therefore worse. Remember how those heavy "professional" headphone cables broke the jack on your Walkman, the cheap, light ones didn't? (Not that that switching jack wasn't a lousy bit of design in its own right.)


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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Exalted Wombat]
      #1058822 - 23/07/13 10:34 AM
Quote Exalted Wombat:

Looks like the lightweight plug would be fine for a studio installation.




Sure, not an issue if it will remain static and connected for long periods. but the cable strain design can lead to problems if the cables are inserted and removed a lot. So it depends on the OP's application and working practices.

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Remember how those heavy "professional" headphone cables broke the jack on your Walkman, the cheap, light ones didn't?




Always best to use 90-degree right-angled plugs in situations where gravity and heavy cables are likely to present strain on the socket. The right-angled design not only reduces the leverage massively, but also allows rotation to minimise it even further!

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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1058823 - 23/07/13 10:35 AM
Quote Hugh Robjohns:

I'm sure they have GOOGLE in Hong Kong...

That plug is a REAN plug -- a subsidiary and independent Neutrik company. Rean plugs are cheaper and not as well made as proper Neutrik connectors. The cable clamp, in particular, is vastly inferior. However, the body diameter of that style of Rean plug is 12.5mm.

You will find all the information you need about REAN plugs HERE

H



That's Neutrik NYS228 right?

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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1058826 - 23/07/13 10:41 AM
Quote Hugh Robjohns:


Always best to use 90-degree right-angled plugs in situations where gravity and heavy cables are likely to present strain on the socket. The right-angled design not only reduces the leverage massively, but also allows rotation to minimise it even further!





Agreed, for static installations where the only stress is from the weight of cable and plug. But, as I've just opined in another topic, when a cable "yank" is possible, a straight connection will, with luck, just come out rather than causing damage.


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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Parco]
      #1058827 - 23/07/13 10:41 AM
No, its the REAN NYS228...

http://www.rean-connectors.com/en/products/1/4-plugs/nys228

Neutrik owns the company, but there is a reason why it retained the REAN name! The same as the relationship between Lexus and Toyota...

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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1058831 - 23/07/13 11:14 AM
Quote Hugh Robjohns:

No, its the REAN NYS228...

http://www.rean-connectors.com/en/products/1/4-plugs/nys228

Neutrik owns the company, but there is a reason why it retained the REAN name! The same as the relationship between Lexus and Toyota...

H




As well as the relationship between Lenovo and Thinkpad/Thinkstation?

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Re: So can I plug such big bodies Neutrik TRS plugs into 2 adjacent sockets of RME products? new [Re: Parco]
      #1058835 - 23/07/13 11:35 AM
As Hugh said, the Neutrik PX series are thinner that the older C series and should be fine.

Details HERE.

I think the picture on the OP is actually the PX series.

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