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StephHHF



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[Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?
      #1108875 - 21/06/14 12:14 PM
Hello,

I'm doing some home recording since a few years, mainly to make preprod before going to real studios. For now, I have a Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 and a couple of Behringer B2-Pro.

I'm now working on a record that I'd like to make at home, and for that, I'd like to purchase a better mic than the B2-Pro's that I have.

Is there any mic that:
- would be good for both acoustic guitar (steel, not classical) and male voice
- would be not too expensive (max 500$)

Thank you,
Stéphane.


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Exalted Wombat



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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: StephHHF]
      #1108884 - 21/06/14 01:21 PM
I understand SE Electronics offer a good range...


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Wease



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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: Exalted Wombat]
      #1108885 - 21/06/14 01:29 PM
Exhaulted......that post is one of the funniest I've seen.

I've spat me tea all over me ipad......

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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: StephHHF]
      #1108890 - 21/06/14 02:23 PM
AT4033 is a nice general purpose mic and well within your price range. As compared with sE it's a bit light on naked ladies.

CC

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Richard Graham



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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: Wease]
      #1108907 - 21/06/14 05:17 PM
Quote Wease:

Exhaulted......that post is one of the funniest I've seen.

I've spat me tea all over me ipad......




I don't get it?! I hate not getting jokes.

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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: StephHHF]
      #1108926 - 21/06/14 10:32 PM
Are you planning on recording vocals and guitar at the same time?

Will there be other instruments in the final arrangement?

Answers to these questions will determine the best advice.

If the answer is yes to both, I'd recommend a three mic set up, maybe a pair of Rode M5s on the guitar and then either a Sennheiser MK4 or Audio Technica AT2050 on vocals, which could be achieved within budget. (The AT2050 provides multi pattern which can be very useful in figure of eight mode for recording vocals when guitar is played at the same time). An alternative to a vocal condenser would be a nice dynamic like the Shure SM7B, or maybe even a Beyerdynamic M201.

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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: StephHHF]
      #1108928 - 21/06/14 11:55 PM
And these articles will be of interest:

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G-Doubleyou



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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: StephHHF]
      #1109143 - 23/06/14 03:58 PM
Also checkout the Guide.
http://tweakheadz.com/posts/the-guide/

Also be aware that a better mike won't help, if the space you record in SUCKS!



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The Bunk



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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: StephHHF]
      #1109264 - 24/06/14 02:29 PM
Not wishing to hijack this post but I've been lent a Rode NT1000 which I love. I often record acoustic guitar with a female vocalist and it's worked beautifully with her. And that's around my budget in looking for a new one; good one to go for or are there other recommendations at that price?? The room's reasonably well treated, and I'm using a Focusrite 2i2 (although I do also have a Focusrite Platinum Trakmaster channel strip).


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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: Bob Bickerton]
      #1109307 - 24/06/14 06:29 PM
Quote Bob Bickerton:

I'd recommend a three mic set up



+1

A mono voice *and* mono guitar are going to sound very thin and lonely between stereo speakers.

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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: The Bunk]
      #1109337 - 24/06/14 09:07 PM
Quote The Bunk:

Not wishing to hijack this post but I've been lent a Rode NT1000 which I love. I often record acoustic guitar with a female vocalist and it's worked beautifully with her. And that's around my budget in looking for a new one; good one to go for or are there other recommendations at that price?? The room's reasonably well treated, and I'm using a Focusrite 2i2 (although I do also have a Focusrite Platinum Trakmaster channel strip).




Bearing in mind it's also to do with matching the mic to the voice, I would pick the Sennheiser MK4 over an NT1000 and have owned both. The MK4 still has an extended top end (which often suits female vocals), but isn't as hard sounding as the NT1000, though we're talking subtle differences. Another alternative would be a nice dynamic.

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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: Richard Graham]
      #1109343 - 24/06/14 09:44 PM
Quote Richard Graham:

I don't get it?! I hate not getting jokes.




The chaps are referring to a discussion elsewhere regarding SOS' new page 3 - page 27.

You may like to check the mag feedback forum but to be honest it's all gone a bit unedifying.

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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: StephHHF]
      #1110238 - 01/07/14 02:08 PM
AKG c319

I used this on acoustic steel and got a perfect sound, especially for the price !
Use it directly pointed at the neck if the guitar, around 4" away from the hole.


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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: StephHHF]
      #1110332 - 02/07/14 10:33 AM
Quote StephHHF:

I'm doing some home recording since a few years, mainly to make preprod before going to real studios. For now, I have a Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 and a couple of Behringer B2-Pro.





Juming back to the beginning...

I've just looked up the SoS review of the Behringers, and they don't seem too bad (though when WILL manufacturers wake up to the fact that calling something "pro" immediately defines that it isn't!)

May we hear some of your recordings of the singer/guitarist using these mics? As always, once you've got adequate equipment, It Isn't Really About The Gear :-)


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StephHHF



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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: StephHHF]
      #1110466 - 03/07/14 08:39 AM
Thank your for your answers!

It's not to record guitar and voice at the same time. And yes, unfortunately, the space I record in sucks

Maybe I'll keep the behringers, anyway it's just to do "preprod" material. Indeed, even with a better mic, the room in which I record is not a good room, so maybe I'll keep the money...

Again, thanks to all.


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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice? new [Re: StephHHF]
      #1110483 - 03/07/14 09:43 AM
Quote StephHHF:

It's not to record guitar and voice at the same time. And yes, unfortunately, the space I record in sucks




Clothes-horses, duvets... It's not hard to build a recording "tent" big enough for a guitar-vocalist.

If the end result is to be guitar+vocal, at least TRY recording it that way. Capturing a performance is often preferable to constructing one.


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