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Scouser



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How do I get the best sound for Iphone video
      #990739 - 01/06/12 08:56 AM
Hi I'm looking to record some live videos for you tube, im finding that the in built mic is not up for the job. What are my alternatives ? I've had a quick look about and noticed that tascam do a microphone, ideally I would like to use my sequencer as I would have all the options I need, but then how does one go about syncing it with video ? Would appreciate any ideas..

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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #990748 - 01/06/12 09:32 AM
Quote Scouser:

Hi I'm looking to record some live videos for you tube, im finding that the in built mic is not up for the job. What are my alternatives ? I've had a quick look about and noticed that tascam do a microphone, ideally I would like to use my sequencer as I would have all the options I need, but then how does one go about syncing it with video ? Would appreciate any ideas..




Using digital recording systems for both picture and sound, it's generally easy to align both in a video editor even if the recordings were not synchronised.

I wonder if your problem is really the iPhone mic, or if you're putting a single mic in front of an amplified gig and not getting the sound you expect? What are the actual problems with the results you're getting?


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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Exalted Wombat]
      #990755 - 01/06/12 10:23 AM
Quote Scouser:

I've had a quick look about and noticed that tascam do a microphone, ideally I would like to use my sequencer as I would have all the options I need, but then how does one go about syncing it with video ?




I'm not sure what you mean. Are you wondering about upgrading via a Tascam iPhone mic, but thinking you'd ideally prefer to record the sound separately into a computer instead...? Could you feed the signal into the iPhone via a line-in for recording alongside the video...? Otherwise you'd just have to sync them up manually. Any decent DAW should include a video track. You could use something like a clapperboard to create some clear audio/visual sync points.

A/V sync drift can be a PITA with longer clips if you record video and audio on separate devices without syncing them...you might end up having to split the audio track in several places and move stuff around until it fits. Lip sync can be pretty tricky. PluralEyes is a popular tool for doing it automatically.


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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #990836 - 01/06/12 02:51 PM
Ok just to clarify, I want to record a few classical guitar studies using my iphone 4s as thats the only means for recording video that I have, also its pretty good, but I would like to record audio via a sequencer as I have far greater control over the sound also using my own seperate mics would be miles better than the inbuilt mic on the phone. However I have never done any video editing and don't want it to be a major operation, want to keep things simple if I can..

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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #990848 - 01/06/12 04:39 PM
...this kinda video editing is as simple (to me) as lining up 2 separatley recorded audio tracks

you just look for the match (the sync of the strum on video to the sound of the strum on audio from your daw)

as long as you have a decent (logic/cubase etc etc) DAW you should be quite happy


(It gets immensely more trickier when using multiple camera's/shots/close-ups etc - but if you have iMovie/Final Cut/Adobe premier etc - it is still kinda like the same process as aligning audio tracks - just more of them! - and I've found final cut to be a moderatly easy learning curve for simple stuff because I'm used to Logic and the way DAW's work)

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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #990869 - 01/06/12 06:14 PM
I'm just wondering if you could avoid the problems associated with A/V sync drift and save yourself some work by taking a line into the iPhone from whatever equipment you're using to record the audio, via an adapter if necessary, so you're capturing them together. I'm not entirely sure.


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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: BJG145]
      #990892 - 01/06/12 10:39 PM
Quote BJG145:

I'm just wondering if you could avoid the problems associated with A/V sync drift and save yourself some work by taking a line into the iPhone from whatever equipment you're using to record the audio, via an adapter if necessary, so you're capturing them together. I'm not entirely sure.




Thats what I was hoping not sure, if I could output from preamp to iphone or soundcard to iphone, what I really wanted to do was ad a splash of reverb, but then i think that it probably starts getting tricky ?

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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #991213 - 04/06/12 11:18 AM
Ok I managed to take an out from soundcard and it not sounding too bad, it can be heard here for anyone interested..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoZHE42JIb8&list=HL1338807967&featu re=mh_lolz

Now I need to be able to edit the end !

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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #991214 - 04/06/12 11:23 AM
Great! Now you gotta learn to "love the camera"...


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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #991216 - 04/06/12 11:26 AM
True

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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #991219 - 04/06/12 11:42 AM
Quote Scouser:

Now I need to be able to edit the end



If you want a simple, free video editor, I recently came across a recommendation for AVi Demux. Haven't tried it though.

http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux


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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #991220 - 04/06/12 11:44 AM
Cheers BJ will give it a look

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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #991222 - 04/06/12 11:47 AM
(...actually I guess it would probably be easier with an iPhone app. Don't know much about iPhones.)

http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2011/09/10-best-video-editing-apps-iphone.html


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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #991225 - 04/06/12 12:50 PM
another one - http://youtu.be/klTDzvH6Pw4

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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #991313 - 05/06/12 08:29 AM
Quote Scouser:

Ok I managed to take an out from soundcard and it not sounding too bad, it can be heard here for anyone interested..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoZHE42JIb8&list=HL1338807967&featu re=mh_lolz

Now I need to be able to edit the end !




How did you get a line in to the iPhone??

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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #991322 - 05/06/12 10:00 AM
Quote Scouser:

Ok I managed to take an out from soundcard and it not sounding too bad, it can be heard here for anyone interested..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoZHE42JIb8&list=HL1338807967&featu re=mh_lolz

Now I need to be able to edit the end !




Sounds good. I like the row of coffins in the background!

There must be plenty of iPhone apps capable of a bit of simple video editing. How about writing an ending though? Fadeouts are such a cop-out!

Is the "old movie" effect something offered by your recording program? I usually hate that sort of gimmick, but it actually suits this song quite well.


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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #991352 - 05/06/12 12:43 PM
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How did you get a line in to the iPhone?




I just ran the output of the soundcard into a Peavey ampkit link, there are several different types irig etc just a little box that allows a 1/4 inch jack which has a phono output that goes direct into the iphone..

Quote:

Is the "old movie" effect something offered by your recording program? I usually hate that sort of gimmick, but it actually suits this song quite well.





Its an app called "8mm", great little app has different types of film and lenses..

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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #992124 - 09/06/12 07:05 PM
Guys, would really appreciate your views on how I could improve on the sound for doing some recordings similar to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klTDzvH6Pw4&feature=plcp This was my first attempt and I would like to know, other than my playing, what are the obvious flaws with this recording ?

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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #992126 - 09/06/12 07:19 PM
There's some useful background in this SOS article.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug01/articles/recacgtr0801.asp

What mic(s) are you using, and how do you have things set up...?


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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #992129 - 09/06/12 07:32 PM
The only mics I have are Rode NT1 - Rode NT3 - SM58 Was using the NT1 for this, at about 1ft away going into a focusrite trackmaster pre, with a tiny bit of compression. Never had much joy with the NT3 and never think to use the sm58. I think the room reflections are quite obvious ?

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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #992140 - 09/06/12 08:51 PM
There are several other versions of the Tarrega Study in E Minor on YouTube. If you pick out one that has a sound you like, we could suggest how you might get that sound.

Your guitar seems to be tuned a semitone flat. Bringing it up to pitch would brighten the sound.


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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #992144 - 09/06/12 09:29 PM
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There are several other versions of the Tarrega Study in E Minor on YouTube. If you pick out one that has a sound you like, we could suggest how you might get that sound




Not quite as easy as that, as it's a classical piece, many of the versions are played on a classical guitar, mine is obviously steel strung. I'm just trying to get a feel for what all the ppl here think when they hear it, like I say, what it lacks etc.

But as you point out it can be a good idea to know what your aiming for, so i suppose if I could get a sound aproaching the links below I would be more than happy and inspired to do more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRqTKpAOlIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAu59tRLOpc

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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #992186 - 10/06/12 11:58 AM
It doesn't "lack" anything, but other sounds are possible!

Don't worry about the different guitars being used, but tell us one of the YouTubes of the SAME piece of music that you like.


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Re: How do I get the best sound for Iphone video new [Re: Scouser]
      #992205 - 10/06/12 03:03 PM
This is not too bad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgDkPFY7Wlg&feature=related

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