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mjfe2



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noob question: difference between AU and VST?
      #994469 - 24/06/12 12:00 PM
I use Reaper on a Mac and have noticed that most of my plugins exist as AU and VST. What's the difference in this case, and if I bought a plugin, would it better to choose the AU or VST version?


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BJG145



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Re: noob question: difference between AU and VST? new [Re: mjfe2]
      #994478 - 24/06/12 12:48 PM
Two formats with different histories (Apple/Steinberg), but both supported, so you can use either. Sounds like there might be slight differences between versions with certain plugins though...

http://www.circularlabs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395


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desmond



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Re: noob question: difference between AU and VST? new [Re: BJG145]
      #994486 - 24/06/12 01:22 PM
The standard audio plugin format on Mac OSX is AudioUnit.

Virtually all Mac audio plugins come as AU. VST format is used on the PC.

Very few Mac audio plugins come in a Mac VST format these days, and it's not that common (Mac VST was more used back in pre-OSX Macs where there was no official standard Mac audio plugin format.)

You should generally use AU format, and only use Mac VST if a particular plugin doesn't have an AU version and your DAW/host supports Mac VST.


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Re: noob question: difference between AU and VST? new [Re: desmond]
      #994487 - 24/06/12 01:32 PM
Quote desmond:

Very few Mac audio plugins come in a Mac VST format these days



In my experience, most do. As far as I've noticed, in recent times, the majority of well-supported Mac plugins seem to come as all of:

VST - for use with Cubase on OSX
AU - for use with Logic
RTAS - for use with protools (slightly less common).

There are some DAWs that can use multiple formats e.g Ableton Live, Reaper.

But I could have got confused.

I would use AU where possible.


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BJG145



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Re: noob question: difference between AU and VST? new [Re: mjfe2]
      #994490 - 24/06/12 01:55 PM
I don't use a Mac, and would have thought that AU would be the natural choice, though Googling round forums seems to show a general preference for VSTs, with comments like:

Quote:

most AUs are just a re-wrapped VST and therefore you're better off with a VST




At the end of the day, you can have well-written and badly-written AUs and VSTs.


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tim_obrien



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Re: noob question: difference between AU and VST? new [Re: mjfe2]
      #994519 - 24/06/12 06:30 PM
The way it SHOULD be: AU and VST are just suitcases or boxes, just containers for code.

It shouldn't matter if you put your clothes in a Samsonite suitcase or a Wallmart suitcase. Both hold your clothes.

If there are any differences in the coding between AU and VSTs, that's the programmer's fault.
A box is a box.


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Re: noob question: difference between AU and VST? new [Re: mjfe2]
      #995478 - 30/06/12 09:13 AM
Is it still the case that VSTs have MIDI out but AUs don't? So with a VST you can record edits that you do on the plugin interface, but with an AU you need to set up a controller in some way and record MIDI ins.

Knowing my extensive knowledge this probably changed 5 years ago ...

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