Sdtime
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My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
#1021299 - 28/11/12 11:11 PM
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Recently an instrumental I created here in the U.S. made it onto a well known UK pop
groups' album. I received credit as a writer on the album and a good percentage of the
writers share for the song. The terms were all solidified contractually with help from my
entertainment attorney. The album will most likely only be released in the
United Kingdom. As I am living in the United States, I am curious what may be the best
track I can follow towards collecting my share of overseas sales/performance royalties. I
am curious if anyone has advice or has experienced a situation like this. Info
that may be useful: *Registered with ASCAP (writer) *I have been informally
offered access to a publishing deal but am also curious if there are ways to collect
royalties on my own. I apologize for any missing or incomplete info. I am new
to the business of publishing and could use general advice. Also I hope this thread may
help others in a similar situation.
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narcoman
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021302 - 28/11/12 11:31 PM
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Probably best to seek out a UK publisher on an admin deal. Look at Bucks, Imagem or
similar. They do good rates and work hard.
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Sdtime
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
[Re: narcoman]
#1021314 - 29/11/12 03:40 AM
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Narcoman, That's exactly the information I'm looking for. Thank you!
Now to
seek out the best terms possible.
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narcoman
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021344 - 29/11/12 10:24 AM
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you should be able to get a 90/10 deal for admin really. If you wanna PM me privately I
may be able to hook you up with someone who can help
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balvenie
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021649 - 30/11/12 08:36 PM
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Unless your "Attorney" can argue your tiny contribution in a UK court, and all the
expenses your contribution made to the overall profits then all is lost. Oh, all is lost
anyway, because, you did not do your publishing sums in the first place. As usual...
Edited to remove unnecessarily aggressive and dismissive comments -- HR
Edited by Hugh Robjohns (01/12/12 12:10 PM)
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narcoman
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021711 - 01/12/12 11:25 AM
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Quote balvenie:
All you have read
is rubbish. Unless your "Attorney" can argue your tiny contribution in a UK court, and
all the expenses your contribution made to the overall profits then all is lost. Oh, all
is lost anyway, because, you did not do your publishing sums in the first place. As
usual...
He's not having
top "argue" anything. He's a bona fida credited songwriter on a record doing very well
looking for a route through to the UK for other placements as well as collecting his
already assigned royalties.
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BigRedX
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021721 - 01/12/12 12:10 PM
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Does the OP even need a publishing deal? Surely if you are member of the
relevant royalty collection agencies in your home country, so long as they have the
correct international agreements with the other royalty collectors then you are
covered? Obviously if you want someone to help exploit other things you have
written then a publishing deal is probably the way forward, but for simply collecting
royalties AFAICS all a publisher would do is take a cut of monies already due to you.
-------------------- RockinRollin' VampireMan
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narcoman
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021753 - 01/12/12 12:18 PM
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Quote BigRedX:
Does the OP even
need a publishing deal?
Surely if you are member of the relevant royalty
collection agencies in your home country, so long as they have the correct international
agreements with the other royalty collectors then you are covered?
Obviously if
you want someone to help exploit other things you have written then a publishing deal is
probably the way forward, but for simply collecting royalties AFAICS all a publisher would
do is take a cut of monies already due to you.
No - he doesn't need one for this. But If I was him I'd be
looking to exploit this and get further connections. He's levered himself into a great
start up position - now its time to push it.
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balvenie
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021810 - 01/12/12 11:00 PM
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Sigh..so PRS are the first stop. and maybe GEMA..but does anyone know how to collect from
Columbia..or Japan, or USA? Waiting to hear from the experts on here, except Feline, who
can't get past Brighton.
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narcoman
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021811 - 01/12/12 11:05 PM
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Yup.
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balvenie
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021813 - 01/12/12 11:09 PM
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My fav person who cuts through all the ****
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narcoman
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021815 - 01/12/12 11:13 PM
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haha
I've actually found the USA a real pain. I've nearly always just gone
ahead with an admin deal through EMI. Just saves so much arsing around. Columbia is easy -
SAYCO are fine and they have a decent team there (well for projects that seem to have
promo behind them)
JASRAC unfortunately art a huge proverbial pain in the ass
but a I do have great connection with a lovely German bloke working in Tokyo. Cuts through
the crap of what is an incredibly red tape organisation.
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balvenie
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021818 - 01/12/12 11:19 PM
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I have always taken your advice Narco
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narcoman
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021819 - 01/12/12 11:20 PM
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not the rude ones I hope. I mean nobody should do those things unless accompanied
by a responsible human being.....
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balvenie
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021822 - 01/12/12 11:29 PM
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Now you are being silly..but I like it (cross legs)
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balvenie
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021823 - 01/12/12 11:30 PM
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Incase anyone thinks I am not a girl I Am!!
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narcoman
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021836 - 02/12/12 12:05 AM
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TheBev
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021840 - 02/12/12 12:16 AM
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Get a room people..
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balvenie
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021841 - 02/12/12 12:22 AM
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You get in the bowl!
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narcoman
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Re: My first major label placement overseas (UK) - advice needed
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#1021844 - 02/12/12 12:27 AM
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LMAO !!!
Anyway - night aLL....
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