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Santarosa



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lost file in ProTools. Is it possible?
      #1025274 - 20/12/12 12:56 PM
Hello,

I was recording spoken voice in protools. There was lots of takes in sequence, one after another in the timeline. The next day I went back to the studio to export the session in OMF and when I opened the project there was one missing file (that corresponds to one of the various takes).

It was weird since I didn't clean anything. When I finished the recording the day before everything was there and the only thing I did was to save it.

It's weirder because the file is there in the audio files but protools won't recognise it. The name and extension (.wav) of the file are correct.

What could have happened?
Is there a way of recovering it?

I also tried to open the file in Reaper and it opened but it was like nothing was recorded in it.

Much appreciated any help.

Chico


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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: Santarosa]
      #1025300 - 20/12/12 02:09 PM
Could well be a disk-write error... Is the file size roughly what it should be?

Cheers!

Chris


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Santarosa



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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: The Korff]
      #1025304 - 20/12/12 02:27 PM
Hi,

thanks for the reply.

Yes, the file size is exactly as the other takes of same length.

Cheers,
Chico


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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: Santarosa]
      #1025308 - 20/12/12 02:41 PM
Is this Mac or PC...? Does it sound blank in Pro Tools as in Reaper, or will it not open at all...?


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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: Santarosa]
      #1025309 - 20/12/12 02:41 PM
Have you tried to manually relink the file. Sometimes PT randomly can lose the link for some unknown reason. In which case, a manual relink and saving the session does the job.

That said, I'm surprised to hear it won't open in another DAW. That does suggest a corruption.


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Santarosa



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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: Santarosa]
      #1025345 - 20/12/12 07:07 PM
hi all,

it's really odd. It's Mac. ProTools doesn't open the file. It's kinda not recognising it. In reaper when I imported it appeared blank.

Yes, I tried to manually relink, but that's it, the file shows up but protools won't read it.

Thanks for all the replies. It seems a corrupted file. I don't know if there's an easy way to recover it though. I guess it's easier to record the line again. The problem is I'm not finding the speaker to do it again. She's vanished.

Cheers,
Chico


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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: Santarosa]
      #1025349 - 20/12/12 07:29 PM
Might be worth trying to track down some utility to recover corrupt WAVs; eg a quick "recover corrupt wav" Google turned up this, though it's PC...

http://www.railjonrogut.com/WAV%20Saver.htm

VLC seems popular as a "handle anything" WAV player...

http://www.videolan.org/



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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: Santarosa]
      #1025355 - 20/12/12 07:54 PM
there was a earlier version of pro tools, I believe 8, that did this random sometimes. it was fixed in an update
you did not mention which version you used?


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Santarosa



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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: th.v.]
      #1025358 - 20/12/12 09:26 PM
ha!

It was Protools 8. The studio probably didn't get the update. I'll let them know.

Is there a way of recovering it?

I'll try to recover it with the PC Wave Recover software mentioned earlier anyway. Will let you know if it worked.

Cheers,
Chico


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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: Santarosa]
      #1025365 - 20/12/12 11:59 PM
i'm afraid not
we did record, the singing it was I believe, again
but the client was not pleased, thought is was my mistake
till I heard and told him some days later another studio had the same problem

here is also a link with the old problem fixed in 8.02cs

http://musformation.com/pro_tools_tip_of_the_day_pro_tools_80cs2_update_no w_available/

strange that your studio still uses 8.0 and never had problems before?
the update is free and when you use pro tools I think it's difficult not to have met the problem or heard from it

succes


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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: th.v.]
      #1025371 - 21/12/12 05:08 AM
The studio is not mine so I contacted the guy from the studio and he told me it is the latest version of ProTools 8 (I think it's 8.0.5). It's ProTools LE though. I don't know this could be an issue but I don't think so.

Anyway, today happened again with a project of them.

Well, thanks for all the replies. Much appreciated.

Cheers,
Chico


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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: Santarosa]
      #1025398 - 21/12/12 11:22 AM
I'll echo the recommendation to try VLC. It does indeed play pretty much everything (I think it can ignore things like corrupt file headers and such), and if that works you may be able to salvage something from it, if only by re-recording VLC's output. Bit of a fungle, but if if helps you rescue a take...

Cheers!

Chris


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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: The Korff]
      #1025898 - 26/12/12 03:42 PM
Hi all,

thanks for all the replies. I tried VLC and the wave saver software in a PC. Nothing worked. Eventually I got the person who was the speaker in that recording to come to the studio and record the line again.

Everything is fine now, but not because of pro tools.

Cheers,
Chico


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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: Santarosa]
      #1025903 - 26/12/12 04:39 PM
I'd have someone run the Mac Disk Utility to check that drive for errors so this doesn't haunt you.


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Re: lost file in ProTools. Is it possible? new [Re: Santarosa]
      #1026396 - 30/12/12 06:28 PM
yeah - doesn't sound like a PT issue but one of corrupt disk. The main reason why multi span sessions are run on large money sessions!!


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