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ken long



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Logic Varispeed Problem
      #1065525 - 08/09/13 06:29 PM
So, I was given a song to mix in logic.

At the end of the mix, the client decided that pitching up the whole mix by 2% using varispeed (speed and pitch) is the result he wanted. Fine. I delivered the mix like that.

He later decided to overdub onto the final mix. He sent me the stems and asked me to mix them in. But of course, the project is still +2% so his overdubs are now +2% fast (though very much in key).

I'm just wondering which of these following solutions would be best practice to avoid any issues.

So, in order of PITA (least PITA to most)

1. Lay his overdubs down onto the stereo mix in a new project. easy but not so much control over the other elements in the 2-track mix obviously.

2. Time correct his overdubs by -2%. I think this would be best but not sure what this percentile refers to. What does 2% equate to in bpm?

3. Render all tracks from the mix to a new project and then lay his overdubs on top. Easy but time consuming and feels redundant.

all solutions will work but which solution will be most efficient? I think #2 would be the best choice if I knew by how much bpm the varispeed percentile referred too.

thanks

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ken long



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Re: Logic Varispeed Problem new [Re: ken long]
      #1065527 - 08/09/13 06:38 PM
OK- think i'll just create a new project at -2% and render them that way.

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Eddy Currents



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Re: Logic Varispeed Problem new [Re: ken long]
      #1065530 - 08/09/13 07:09 PM
There's a pretty good free app called Backline Calc and one of its algos is a change tempo re percentages.
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/backline-calc/id337547274?mt=8


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alexis



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Re: Logic Varispeed Problem new [Re: ken long]
      #1065538 - 08/09/13 08:38 PM
Doesn't it work to just see how long the new project is and compare it to the time of the original?

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ken long



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Re: Logic Varispeed Problem new [Re: Eddy Currents]
      #1065539 - 08/09/13 09:07 PM
thanks eddy. sorted now.

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Re: Logic Varispeed Problem new [Re: ken long]
      #1065550 - 08/09/13 10:10 PM
Quote ken long:

thanks eddy. sorted now.




Please do tell - what was the BPM of the new project?

Was it = (BPM of the old project)/(0.98),

Or more complicated than that?

Thanks -

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ken long



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Re: Logic Varispeed Problem new [Re: alexis]
      #1065587 - 09/09/13 09:48 AM
Quote alexis:

Quote ken long:

thanks eddy. sorted now.




Please do tell - what was the BPM of the new project?

Was it = (BPM of the old project)/(0.98),

Or more complicated than that?

Thanks -




Hi, I rendered at -2% in a new project and re-imported and that worked. Haven't worked it out.

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