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desmond



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Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe)
      #995222 - 28/06/12 02:52 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/28/sonys-sound-forge-audio-editing-softwa re-coming-to-mac/

http://finallyonthemac.com

*If* it's true, and it's good... :happy dance:

Edit: (Sorry (a bit) for the sensationalist thread title. I figure once every five years ain't too bad...)
Edit2: If it's "Acid" I'll do that thing where you get a little bit of vomit in the back of your throat...


Edited by desmond (28/06/12 03:00 PM)


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #995224 - 28/06/12 03:02 PM
JESUS H CHRIST!!

Is this genuine??


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desmond



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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: Pitchfork]
      #995250 - 28/06/12 06:23 PM
Clearly no one else is quite as excited as us...


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #995251 - 28/06/12 06:54 PM
I thought Mac was THE media platform? Now you say you've been waiting all this time for a decent audio editor? :-)


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: Exalted Wombat]
      #995253 - 28/06/12 06:58 PM
Quote Exalted Wombat:

I thought Mac was THE media platform? Now you say you've been waiting all this time for a decent audio editor? :-)




You have no idea!

Adobe Audition was a start (and it's pretty good) but it's not SF...


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #995260 - 28/06/12 08:52 PM
what makes sound forge so great that it gets you girls all lathered up?

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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #995261 - 28/06/12 09:04 PM
Quote desmond:


Adobe Audition was a start (and it's pretty good) but it's not SF...



Actually Wavelab was the start.


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desmond



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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: electrotimba]
      #995263 - 28/06/12 09:33 PM
Quote electrotimba:

Actually Wavelab was the start.




Not for me.


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #995265 - 28/06/12 09:56 PM
well that's wat i mean. i was waiting forever for wavelab but WL7 was little disappointing... not in features or power (it is excellent) but in design. WL6 on PC was excellent. So what makes SF so good? I've never used it. Does it have Sonnox plugs as standard?

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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: ken long]
      #995297 - 29/06/12 08:11 AM
Some of us started on a PC back in 1998 (so nearly went for a Mac at the time) but had other PC users I was working with.

They all used Sound Forge, and Acid at the time as one of the most flexible and cheap editors at the time.

We then went on to use if for years for editing and mastering, and then moved over to the Mac around 05' and obvioulsy there was nothing around like it. Tried all the OS X editors and nothing quite hit the mark, so had to keep an old PC around to run natively, and also bought PD7 to run windows, as a guest OS, which slowed things down..

So for me and a few other users, SF for the Mac is a good thing (finally!) especially now PEAK is dead. Will Vegas and Acid make the switch too?


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #995298 - 29/06/12 08:13 AM
So very much crossing fingers for this to be true. I didn't quite love Peak, but after Bias' demise this month, we need some good news. I'm currently on wave editor and while decent, having soundforge would definitely improve workflow by a million miles...

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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: Pitchfork]
      #995302 - 29/06/12 08:25 AM
Quote Pitchfork:



So for me and a few other users, SF for the Mac is a good thing (finally!) especially now PEAK is dead. Will Vegas and Acid make the switch too?




Isn't acid dead too?


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #995319 - 29/06/12 09:06 AM
DSP Quattro

Terrific editor and excellent (and very personal) support and development.

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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: hollowsun]
      #995337 - 29/06/12 09:53 AM
Quote hollowsun:

Terrific editor and excellent (and very personal) support and development.




I never said there aren't other OSX wave editors. There are, quite a few now, including some very good ones (we've had this discussion on previous threads before), and some pretty bad ones.

*None* of them I find fit me, they feel wrong, or are designed in a way I don't like. DSP Quattro, TC Spark, Soundtrack Pro, Bias Peak, Adobe Audition, Wavelab, Wave Editor - and others too.

None of them were a patch on Soundforge for me, and Sound Forge was pretty much the *only* reason I missed a PC.

If this *is* Soundforge (there are quite some clues in the video, but at the same time, the MacRumors article saying they "think" it's from Sony but I couldn't see any other reference to Sony) *and* it's well implemented on the Mac, I'm really looking forward to it.

Up to now, Adobe Audition is about the one that fits me best, and before that Peak (although Peak was a champion of weird, ugly and odd design choices, as well as buggy).

We'll see... particularly as the release new videos over the next days/weeks to give out more clues until we know...


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #995344 - 29/06/12 10:09 AM
there is, i suppose, the possibility that the rights to develop it on another platform have been sold on. Much like the model video game industry often relies on.

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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: TBTS]
      #995353 - 29/06/12 10:49 AM
Quote TBTS:

there is, i suppose, the possibility that the rights to develop it on another platform have been sold on. Much like the model video game industry often relies on.




Yeah, possibly.

What we do know is that, at least historically, Sony have categorically ignored the Mac and have never really developed any software of note for the Mac platform - all their products are notoriously PC only.

With all the attention to Apple over the few years, it's brought a lot of developers over or back to the Mac, which is a great thing for the platform. So it's possible that Sony have just woken up to the Mac marketplace as one that can generate more than just a forgettable niche revenue stream.

Or basically they've just read my moaning rants over the years about the lack of a Mac version of SoundForge and they're doing it just for me...


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #995420 - 29/06/12 04:03 PM
Quote desmond:

Quote hollowsun:

Terrific editor and excellent (and very personal) support and development.




I never said there aren't other OSX wave editors. There are, quite a few now, including some very good ones (we've had this discussion on previous threads before), and some pretty bad ones.

*None* of them I find fit me, they feel wrong, or are designed in a way I don't like. DSP Quattro, TC Spark, Soundtrack Pro, Bias Peak, Adobe Audition, Wavelab, Wave Editor - and others too.

None of them were a patch on Soundforge for me, and Sound Forge was pretty much the *only* reason I missed a PC.

If this *is* Soundforge (there are quite some clues in the video, but at the same time, the MacRumors article saying they "think" it's from Sony but I couldn't see any other reference to Sony) *and* it's well implemented on the Mac, I'm really looking forward to it.

Up to now, Adobe Audition is about the one that fits me best, and before that Peak (although Peak was a champion of weird, ugly and odd design choices, as well as buggy).

We'll see... particularly as the release new videos over the next days/weeks to give out more clues until we know...




Agree totally with this, and the reason also I have a PC around! I even tried Parallels for SF, which is ok, but wouldnt be as good as native OS X.


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #995439 - 29/06/12 07:26 PM
I heard "swine flu" about the other year.

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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: tex]
      #996166 - 04/07/12 03:45 PM
The second video is up:
http://finallyonthemac.com/

A few teaser screen glimpses...

Also the phrase "No bias here", interestingly enough...

And in the section with the guitarist, you can see a bit of the app on screen, and it *does* look like Sound Forge... huzzah!


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #996297 - 05/07/12 11:12 AM
Quote desmond:



None of them were a patch on Soundforge for me, and Sound Forge was pretty much the *only* reason I missed a PC.






Different people have different ideas. Personally, I've never understood the attraction of Soundforge. I tried all the demos up to version 6 but it always seemed slow and cumbersome with nothing happening in real time. Audition worked much better for me - although I'm not sure whether the Mac version shows the program in its true glory as the newer versions have been hastily cobbled together to meet release deadlines and are missing some features that I've found useful on older versions.

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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: James Perrett]
      #996301 - 05/07/12 11:22 AM
Quote James Perrett:

I'm not sure whether the Mac version shows the program in its true glory as the newer versions have been hastily cobbled together to meet release deadlines and are missing some features that I've found useful on older versions.

James.




Exactly James, I went back to SF 5.0 as it still had the direct mode which altered the file at source level directly which was handy.

I hope it is SF for Mac, but I'm now 50/50 with Reaper!

I'm finding Reaper does alot of things now in the timeline, as well as the ability to shuffle things around and crossfade 'live', but hated the fact that it doesn't have true Area Selection, and you can't save your file on the timeline as a region/item, having instead to go to render/glue..

I think using SF for so long, I was set in my ways, but Reaper does a lot of things simpler and much faster with more options. But everytime I say goodbye to SF, I end up missing it like a security blanket!!

Lets hope Cockos see the SF Mac and 'shortage of editor for OS X" and add these fews things to Reaper, and I think I'll be set!

(I use both REAPER and SF on a Mac (SF on Parallels) but its not ideal, maybe SF 30% and Reaper 70%)


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: Pitchfork]
      #996331 - 05/07/12 01:54 PM
Well, I think its about time !!!
SF was clearly a great editor on the PC, doing out of the box, WAY more than Peak.
I have used SF via Fusion, so a native version is going to speed things up a bit.

Bring it on !


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: Scope]
      #997482 - 12/07/12 05:31 PM
The third video is now up.

It looks purdy!

"You asked for it" indeed... they are clearly referring to me and my SF Mac whinings over the years...


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #1004884 - 22/08/12 05:58 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/08/22/sony-confirms-sound-forge-pro-coming-t o-mac/


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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #1004889 - 22/08/12 06:37 PM
Reading some of the comments on that site makes me slowly shake my head in disappointment.

Stuff like "why use this when you've got pro-tools/logic/cubase" etc.. Oh well

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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: Dave Rowles]
      #1004892 - 22/08/12 07:39 PM
Quote Exavior Music:

Reading some of the comments on that site makes me slowly shake my head in disappointment.

Stuff like "why use this when you've got pro-tools/logic/cubase" etc.. Oh well




Agree but those people are mostly general Mac types not pro-audo people so their opinions, despite me wanting to jump on there and correct some impressions, aren't that valid...



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Re: Omg! Pigs Are Flying! (maybe) new [Re: desmond]
      #1005278 - 24/08/12 09:53 PM
So I know this is still conjecture, but does anyone use Sound Forge or should I say CD Architect for CD burning? I would hope that when Sound Forge comes to the mac it'll enable you to use audio units plug ins, apparently the current PC version does not access VST plugs.

Looks like Waveburner is on the way out, so I need to replace it with a pro alternative.

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