photvid
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Standalone SW1000XG
#1020172 - 25/11/12 09:57 AM
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Hi - I've still got an old SW1000XG kicking around. Unfortunately I can't make it to work
reliably with my current PC (think it has to do with voltage of the PCI or something),
getting BSODs etc. So, instead I was wondering if there's any way to make the SW1000XG
operate in a standalone kind of way. You used to have these Kenton plugstation things that
(I believe) had that capability. However, I haven't seen these listed 2nd hand anywhere...
Also, I was hoping for a low cost solution. Any alternatives (aside from building a
mini-PC or something)?
Oh, and I know most current VSTi's are so much better in
sound quality blablabla...but I still sometimes miss my old XG sounds (and I actually
really liked the effects too!)
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BJG145
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG
[Re: photvid]
#1020210 - 25/11/12 01:34 PM
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Just get an old PC; you can pick them up for nothing.
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photvid
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG
[Re: BJG145]
#1020219 - 25/11/12 02:15 PM
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Yes, thought of that, and still have the components to build one, but wanted to really
avoid something that requires long boot times etc and would easily integrate with my
normal DAW. Basically turning it into a (near-) instant sound module. But, thx for the
suggestion.
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BJG145
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG
[Re: photvid]
#1020228 - 25/11/12 03:03 PM
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As you say, the Plugstation is highly scarce and there's nothing else like it, so the only
alternative would be picking up a similar sound module - seems the MU100 is basically the
same thing.
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Mu-100-Mu100-Module-Ancesot/dp/...
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Goddard
Joined: 04/04/12
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG
[Re: BJG145]
#1020243 - 25/11/12 04:32 PM
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Unfortunately, there is no way to host (use) an SW1000XG except in a computer, as the
SW1000 requires drivers in order to operate and uses the PCI bus for data/control.
The Plugstation is only for hosting PLG cards, not for hosting an SW1000XG.
This has been discussed in the SW1000 forum over on ds2416.org, so you might check
over there for more info (site seems to be offline at the moment, so can't link to topic).
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photvid
Joined: 23/09/06
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG
[Re: photvid]
#1020245 - 25/11/12 04:36 PM
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Yes, had also looked into that. It's probably the only realistic option I've got. Shame
though, b/c it would have been great to somehow use my SW1K!
Thanks again.
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photvid
Joined: 23/09/06
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG
[Re: Goddard]
#1020248 - 25/11/12 04:40 PM
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Quote Goddard:
Unfortunately,
there is no way to host (use) an SW1000XG except in a computer, as the SW1000 requires
drivers in order to operate and uses the PCI bus for data/control.
The
Plugstation is only for hosting PLG cards, not for hosting an SW1000XG.
This
has been discussed in the SW1000 forum over on ds2416.org, so you might check over there
for more info (site seems to be offline at the moment, so can't link to topic).
Ah, ok, somehow I thought it could
also host a SW1K. In any case, in a way academic as they don't seem to be around anymore!
Thanks!
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BJG145
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG
[Re: photvid]
#1020262 - 25/11/12 05:33 PM
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Just came across this old thread on a similar topic...
http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=981349&
Main=974041
If it works in your current PC at all, I'd have thought it
could be made to work reliably...but using a second PC as a host might not be too bad if
it was sorted out properly.
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photvid
Joined: 23/09/06
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG
[Re: BJG145]
#1020357 - 26/11/12 12:06 PM
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Ah, that's very insightful! Thanks for that!
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Daniel Drummond
Joined: 07/05/06
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG
[Re: photvid]
#1020935 - 26/11/12 07:01 PM
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See if they can help you: http://www.ucapps.de/ and http://www.midibox.org/ They have been using amiga comodore c64
processors, old yamaha FM chips (from soundcards) etc etc to build standalone synths and
sequencers.
-------------------- www.estudiodrummond.com.br
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photvid
Joined: 23/09/06
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Thanks Daniel - that certainly looks interesting!
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Reiknir
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG
[Re: BJG145]
#1020971 - 26/11/12 11:33 PM
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Quote BJG145:
Just came across
this old thread on a similar topic...
<a
href="/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=981349&Main=974041"
target="_blank">http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=981349&a
mp;Main=974041</a>
If it works in your current PC at all, I'd have
thought it could be made to work reliably...but using a second PC as a host might not be
too bad if it was sorted out properly.
They can be made to work in Windows vista and Windows 7 32 bit
installs but no drivers exist for the 64 bit versions, and most new computers come with
64bit OEM installs, I have not tried Win8 32 bit but have heard reports that they do in
fact work to a sufficient degree
Personally I ended up buying a couple of
motherboards with 5 PCI slots each and filling them up with old Yamaha, Creamware, Turtle
beach, egosys and Terratech cards all runing from XP, lots of fun.
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