Oliver21
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spare PC for effects
#1029622 - 21/01/13 06:36 PM
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I have a spare PC which I would like to press back into service for plugins (to take the
strain off my main PC) My question is will need to have another version of Cubase running
on this pc to use the plugins or is there some other way of arranging them to output
through my standard. I will be using a Soundscape Mixtreme with the SS8IO analogue
interface to bring the effects back into my analog mixer
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The Elf
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Re: spare PC for effects
[Re: Oliver21]
#1029623 - 21/01/13 06:40 PM
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I'm sure someone will come along and explain the technicalities (Cubase itself has a way
of linking another PC by utilising a digital connection between the two), but I'd say it's
more trouble than it's worth.
IMO it's quicker and easier to freeze tracks,
render effects and generally look at processor-saving techniques rather try to keep two
PCs happily talking to each other, with all of the overheads that entails.
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Chaparazzi
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Re: spare PC for effects
[Re: Oliver21]
#1029633 - 21/01/13 08:10 PM
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Hi Oliver. I use http://www.viennaensemblepro.com/ Works a treat for me! Matt
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Oliver21
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Re: spare PC for effects
[Re: Oliver21]
#1029651 - 21/01/13 11:57 PM
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I would treat the extra PC as a stand alone effects unit which would only be integrated to
the extent that it was attahed to the send and returns of my consoles auxes so I don't
think there would be a digital connection to be made... That software seems a
bit overspecced for what I need. It's jsut something to house the pluggins- are there no
free ones?
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Martin Walker
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Re: spare PC for effects
[Re: Oliver21]
#1029659 - 22/01/13 12:51 AM
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Hi Oliver21! It may be rather elderly now, but my SOS August 2005 features
entitled 'Spreading Your Music Across Networked Computers' may give you some ideas: www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug05/articles/pcmusician.htmI
hope it helps anyway! Martin
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Oliver21
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Re: spare PC for effects
[Re: Oliver21]
#1029711 - 22/01/13 11:27 AM
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Thanks Martin! As you can probably gather from my choice of soundcard and interface, I'm
not at all averse to elderly things. In fact I am one myself.
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Re: spare PC for effects
[Re: Oliver21]
#1030291 - 25/01/13 12:01 AM
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Glad it helped - I must say that I personally prefer to keep my studio as quiet as
possible, so one computer is quite sufficient  Martin
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Re: spare PC for effects
[Re: Oliver21]
#1030329 - 25/01/13 05:49 AM
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Plus one for vienna ensemble pro.
I've got two other computers (one pc, one
mac) on my gigabit LAN and it works well to send fx off to the remote machines and back,
as well as runnning instruments on the other computers. All of the midi and audio is taken
care of without the need for audio interfaces on every machine. As the other machines are
not in the same room, no increase in local noise levels.
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Re: spare PC for effects
[Re: Oliver21]
#1030330 - 25/01/13 06:13 AM
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can you use re-wire across multiple pc's with like an ethernet cord or something similar?
:s
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Reiknir
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Re: spare PC for effects
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#1030614 - 26/01/13 09:31 PM
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Quote The Elf:
I'm sure someone
will come along and explain the technicalities (Cubase itself has a way of linking another
PC by utilising a digital connection between the two), but I'd say it's more trouble than
it's worth.
It's
surprisingly easy, the slave computer has to have a digital input which makes the card on
the slave sync the DAC to the one on the Master which is the real magic trick and is what
enables zero latency synchronization, and the slave has to either have a copy of Cubase or
the optional systemlink software if you want to just use the slave as a VST/VSTi host.
Works like a charm
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Re: spare PC for effects
[Re: Skerrick]
#1030769 - 28/01/13 09:31 AM
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Quote Skerrick:
can you use
re-wire across multiple pc's with like an ethernet cord or something similar? :s
Not using Rewire itself but Vienna
Ensemble mentioned above does the same job over a cable.
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Re: spare PC for effects
[Re: Reiknir]
#1030931 - 28/01/13 09:44 PM
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Quote Reiknir:
Quote The Elf:
I'm sure someone
will come along and explain the technicalities (Cubase itself has a way of linking another
PC by utilising a digital connection between the two), but I'd say it's more trouble than
it's worth.
It's
surprisingly easy, the slave computer has to have a digital input which makes the card on
the slave sync the DAC to the one on the Master which is the real magic trick and is what
enables zero latency synchronization, and the slave has to either have a copy of Cubase or
the optional systemlink software if you want to just use the slave as a VST/VSTi host.
Works like a charm
Except that a charm is magic, and therefore dependent on quite a few factors out of your
control 
From my recollection System Link does work well with Steinberg
audio interfaces, but can fall over with others because it relies on using several bits of
the digital signal, and the contents of these may depend on how the driver has been
written.
Martin
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Re: spare PC for effects
[Re: Martin Walker]
#1030973 - 29/01/13 08:38 AM
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Back when I was using Cubendo, V-stack worked fairly well with the Steinberg/ESI VSL2020
PCI cards but those cards were orphaned long ago (a shame, great ADAT cards) so dunno
about current support. But VEP does the job very nicely now though.
Btw, a
quite decent basic VST host application I've not seen mentioned which can run in Win x64
is "VSTHost":
http://www.hermannseib.com/english/vsthost.htm
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Reiknir
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Re: spare PC for effects
[Re: Martin Walker]
#1033808 - 17/02/13 04:55 PM
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Quote Martin Walker:
Quote Reiknir:
Quote The Elf:
I'm sure someone
will come along and explain the technicalities (Cubase itself has a way of linking another
PC by utilising a digital connection between the two), but I'd say it's more trouble than
it's worth.
It's
surprisingly easy, the slave computer has to have a digital input which makes the card on
the slave sync the DAC to the one on the Master which is the real magic trick and is what
enables zero latency synchronization, and the slave has to either have a copy of Cubase or
the optional systemlink software if you want to just use the slave as a VST/VSTi host.
Works like a charm
Except that a charm is magic, and therefore dependent on quite a few factors out of your
control 
From my recollection System Link does work well with Steinberg
audio interfaces, but can fall over with others because it relies on using several bits of
the digital signal, and the contents of these may depend on how the driver has been
written.
Martin
YMMV of course, I am not sure how the experience was when Steinberg released it
originally around 2000, but I have been using it since 2009, do not own a single Steinberg
card and have not had any problems, cards used have been a mixture of ESI and EMU
multichannel interfaces and cheap VIA based sound-cards from Terratec and Philips.
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