dickiefunk
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Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
#1033155 - 12/02/13 01:54 PM
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Hi, What is the best audio pc that is both super quiet and fast?
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robinv
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: dickiefunk]
#1033157 - 12/02/13 02:15 PM
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That's funny - i just put your question into Google and the top result was this forum post
 i thought it was funny anyway.....
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The Elf
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: dickiefunk]
#1033167 - 12/02/13 03:35 PM
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Drop a PM to Peter Kaine on these fora. His company has built my audio PCs for a number of
years now and I'm very pleased with them from both a performance and a noise perspective.
Are they 'the best'? Dunno, but I'm happy to keep going back to them.
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zenguitar
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: robinv]
#1033168 - 12/02/13 03:50 PM
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Happens a lot Robin, SOS scores very highly in search engines thanks to it's long history
and the work put in by the web team. Andy
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Johnny Stecchino
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: The Elf]
#1033170 - 12/02/13 04:00 PM
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Quote The Elf:
Drop a PM to Peter
Kaine on these fora.
I
never tried one of Pete's computers but his suggestions, for my questions regarding silent
components, were always very useful; +1 for Pete
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Pete Kaine
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: robinv]
#1033172 - 12/02/13 04:12 PM
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Quote robinv:
That's funny - i
just put your question into Google and the top result was this forum post
Robin - Neither of us made the
front page for that search... an evening of SEO ahead for both of us then is it?
And yeah, SOS always scores well I've noticed. Aged rankings, relevent (good) links,
cleanly presented, trusted info and a whole host of other design reasons implimented by
the SOS team I suspect keeps it up there.
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robinv
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
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#1033238 - 13/02/13 09:19 AM
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Quote Pete Kaine:
Robin -
Neither of us made the front page for that search... an evening of SEO ahead for both of
us then is it? 
Damn those
dark arts! I bought some magic beans from a guy who claimed that i would see enormous
growth.
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Magic Matt
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: dickiefunk]
#1033336 - 13/02/13 07:04 PM
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Personally I find Scan to be excellent. They have a custom range called 3XS which I've
found to be absolutely superb, as is the service that goes with it. My system is a video
editing rig, but I'm sure their DAW systems would be every bit as good.
Ok, I
realise that sounds like an advert.... I have no affiliation with them whatsoever, just a
very happy customer!
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Magic Matt
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: robinv]
#1033345 - 13/02/13 07:39 PM
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Quote robinv:
Quote Pete Kaine:
Robin -
Neither of us made the front page for that search... an evening of SEO ahead for both of
us then is it? 
Damn those
dark arts! I bought some magic beans from a guy who claimed that i would see enormous
growth.
SEO is a con and
always has been. Content is king - end of debate really!
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alexis
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: dickiefunk]
#1033361 - 13/02/13 08:32 PM
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Thought I'd chime in here with a hopefully relevant question for people in the US who were
wondering the same thing as the OP ... if in the States, is it best to go stateside for
custom-built audio pc/laptop? I have a going on 10 year old Clarion AC that has needed NO
service ever. It was built in England, shipped over to a stateside distributor. But if I
had problems, the local distributor would presumably have made sure things went
smoothly.
What happens if the next unit DOES need attention of the hardware
variety and there is no stateside distributor? I love my SOS forum colleagues, and would
love to support them when the time came, but all things being equal, I'd rather not have
to ship a unit all the way over and back for everything like that.
Thanks -
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Scramble
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
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#1033364 - 13/02/13 08:41 PM
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There are loads of audio PC builders in the US. Buying a UK-built PC that would have to be
shipped back to the UK for repairs would be insane.
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maskedwarrior
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: Scramble]
#1033377 - 13/02/13 10:52 PM
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In my humble opinion, I have made a few attempts at a 'quiet' PC, and if you don't fancy
paying a premium for a bespoke build - had I the money I would get one in an instant mind
you - but say you're 'aspirational' like me.. nowadays a lot more run-of-the-mill
components are better designed, to help you slot together a 'quiet' PC yourself. For eg. CPU Liquid Cooler Kits that just bolt onto your motherboard with ease. A good
option (and they're made with non-conductive coolant too which I only recently realized
the advantage of!) for £60 or so. Also, modern cases tend to be muuuch better
designed - allowing larger, quieter fans. If you add a quality PSU, a lower-spec fan-less
graphics card, RAM, CPU of choice and a 128/256gb OS SSD to your shopping list you have a
very quiet PC right there at no additional cost. From there, the only real
noise to contend with are storage HDDs. And quite noisy they are too once everything else
is shhhed! Some dedicated HDD inclosures would be the only out-of-the-ordinary
thing I'd consider investing in. 2 x 2TB 7200rpm HDDs in a couple of these perhaps? http://quietpc.co.uk/smartdrive-2002chttp://quietpc.co.uk/smartdrive-classichttp://quietpc.co.uk/smartdrive-cooperCheaper than a 2TB
rack of SSDs at £3000 a piece! Tony
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spanishjack
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: dickiefunk]
#1033417 - 14/02/13 10:11 AM
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I've just bought an Event-Muse from Robin at Rain Recording and am delighted with
it...completely silent and faster than I need  Great
service too, thoroughly recommended.
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maskedwarrior
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: spanishjack]
#1033452 - 14/02/13 02:49 PM
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Those a are quite affordable actually. The Nimbus Z2 model has the same case I bought.
Good case.
On the home-build front, I forgot, the latest intel processors have
onboard graphics too, appropriate for most DAWs, if no video editing required. More of a
saving if you scratch video card off the list.
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Magic Matt
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: dickiefunk]
#1033481 - 14/02/13 04:02 PM
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The main down side with a self build is there's obviously no support. If you're a techie
and don't mind having to do the legwork to track down problems and find solutions
yourself, or ask on forums etc., that's fine, but it's worth considering if you're the
type of person that wants to be able to shout help if something breaks.
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maskedwarrior
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: Magic Matt]
#1033512 - 14/02/13 07:07 PM
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Fair point. Free up that energy for making music!
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Mr Rook
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: dickiefunk]
#1033585 - 15/02/13 11:41 AM
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Try Carillon.Virtually inaudible.
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DC-Choppah
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: dickiefunk]
#1034213 - 20/02/13 01:08 AM
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I've always 'built' my own rackmount PCs for running ProTools. The only source of noise is
the fans. So you want to use a motherboard that has a silent fan option. This is actually
software in the bios that monitors the fan and adjusts the fan power and frequency to keep
it quiet.
Also, buy a case fan that is rated for quiet operation.
Audio apps usually top out on memory before topping out the processor, so to make it
super fast, add plenty of RAM.
'Building' a PC these days is really just
assembly of parts in one afternoon.
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robinv
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
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#1034241 - 20/02/13 09:21 AM
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Quote DC-Choppah:
Audio apps usually top out on memory before topping out the processor, so to make it
super fast, add plenty of RAM.
Not sure that's quite right my friend. Ableton Live, Pro Tools and
until recently Reason are all 32bit and so can't use much RAM and yet they would all peak
CPU well before hitting the low RAM ceiling. More RAM is good if you use sample heavy
instruments but CPU is more likely going to be the key.
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The Elf
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
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#1034242 - 20/02/13 09:31 AM
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Quote DC-Choppah:
Audio apps
usually top out on memory before topping out the processor, so to make it super fast, add
plenty of RAM.
This isn't my
experience. Plenty of RAM is always a good idea, but it's rare that I've hit RAM
restrictions before processor chokes - and only then with a few hefty Kontakt multis
loaded up, so it probably depends on your working methods.
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Scramble
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: The Elf]
#1034251 - 20/02/13 10:18 AM
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Both can happen, depends on your working methods and how much RAM you have, and how fast
your CPU is!
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il Padrino
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Re: Super quiet + super fast pc for audio?
[Re: dickiefunk]
#1034364 - 20/02/13 06:03 PM
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My self built system consists of the following:
Fractal Design Mini Case
Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H motherboard
Phenom II x6 1055 CPU (95w version)
Seasonic X-Series 560W PSU
16GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 RAM
2 x Samsung 830 SSDs,
2 x Samsung 840 SSDs
OCZ Vendetta 2 CPU cooler
Antec 3 speed case fan with a
diode to slow down speed further.
With having gone completely SSD in terms of
HDs, the PC is now inaudible. I don't mean quiet, I mean inaudible. You'd have to
literally place your ear next to the machine to hear the CPU fan, and even then you have
to concentrate to hear it. Nor does it overheat.
Having recently cost the
parts for an insurance quote, this cost me in parts £1250.
It is fast, it
has plenty of memory, it hasn't crashed once in, well, I can't remember when it last
crashed. We're talking over 18 months ago, when I had some issues with gfx drivers.
The secret to the silence here is the case, the CPU cooler and the PSU which only
allows its fan to kick if a certain voltage is reached. I wouldn't know if I've ever
reached that voltage as I've never heard the fan kick in... and I've had some demanding
projects.
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