Pete (Conz) Connelly
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Hi guys,
My home pc got infected today with virus, spyware and the likes... No
matter what I do, AVG9 (Free Version) constantly finds stuff but doesn't rid them totally
and I get the occasional pop up saying virus / trojan has been found here and there. Plus
IE chugs like a dog with 2 legs. NIGHTMARE.
Anyhow, I noticed a file called
restorer32_a.exe in C:\Documents and Settings\Peter Connelly and did a search for this. It
appears to be "dangerous", so I followed a link which told me it would remove this from my
system and it installed Spyware Doctor (or something like that) from PC Tools... took
about half an hour to install and check my system then when I went to click FIX... it said
I had to pay for it!!! FFS. What a waste of time. Why on earth didn't they tell me this
before I installed it!!!
Rant over... anyone know of a good and FREE program
that will rid me of restorer32_a.exe and any other infestation I might have picked up
today. AVG doesn't seem to want to help as I thought it wuld do... I have a feeling a
format c: is heading my way
Cheers,
Peter
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See if there is a 'stinger' for ridding yourself of the problem. Also, unplug your PC from
any networks while cleaning - sometimes those worms hide out in your network port and then
hop right back in once the cleaning is done.
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MalwareBytes (anti-malware): http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php
Spybot
(anti-malware/spyware): http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html
Avast
(AntiVirus): http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html
CrapCleaner
(gets rids of general detritus/tempfiles/internetcrap): http://www.ccleaner.com/
All are free for what you need.
Malwarebytes is free for doing manual scans (as opposed to protection in
realtime), and has good reputation for eliminating malware.
I had bad
experiences with AVG in the past, it threw its hands in the air and let two viruses just
walk in and destroy system files, so I drop kicked it in favour of Avast and never looked
back. Avast is exceptional. You may need to reg via email but it's 100% free for personal
use and there's no ads/promo crap shoved in your face at any point.
Spybot is
great for general anti-spyware and other anomalies that lie on your disk.
Crap Cleaner is great for general use, not as an anti-malware prog but just for getting
rid of temp files and clearing up.
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I usually type the name of the file in question into google.
You can be sure
that there have been 1000's of other people before you who have had to remove the file and
have documented how to do it or what they have used.
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=restorer32_a.exe&ie=utf-8&oe=utf
-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
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Quote Pete (Conz) Connelly:
Anyhow, I noticed a file called restorer32_a.exe in C:\Documents and Settings\Peter
Connelly and did a search for this. It appears to be "dangerous", so I followed a link
which told me it would remove this from my system and it installed Spyware Doctor (or
something like that) from PC Tools... took about half an hour to install and check my
system then when I went to click FIX... it said I had to pay for it!!! FFS. What a waste
of time. Why on earth didn't they tell me this before I installed it!!!
I hate to be the one to tell you this but you
just fell for another scam. These days trojans/viruses hijack your browser, blocking
attempts to download real antivirus software, and guiding you to fraudulent security sites
that actually infect you with more malware (and ask you to pay for the honor).
All of the tools others have mentioned in this thread are good, but unfortunately, by
the time you're experiencing the symptoms you've described, you will NOT be able to fix
your computer by installing/running those tools. For one thing, most modern viruses are
written to immediately shut down and otherwise disable Malwarebytes or any other security
tools- and of course you probably won't be able to download them anyway due to the browser
hijacking and DNS poisoning. And don't try using Windows "safe mode" either, as trojans
infect that mode as well.
There are a few ways that you can fix the problem,
though:
1. If it's a desktop and you have more than one hard drive or partition,
install a fresh copy of Windows on that partition. Do NOT boot from the infected partition
at any point until you're all done with the following steps. Immediately after installing
your fresh copy of Windows, download ALL of the Windows Update patches then install Avast
or AVG and also get MalwareBytes on that fresh partition. Then run a full system scan on
all drives/partitions.
2. If you can find an image and burn it from an uninfected
computer, there are "windows live" dvd images around that include anti-virus that you can
use to basically boot windows from a DVD and scan/repair your system. I've never done
this, but I know people who have. Only hard part is finding a trusted image.
3.
Somewhat dangerous, but I've done it successfully for a couple people: On the infected
system, back up all needed data to a USB key/external drive. (This is "somewhat dangerous"
because some viruses infect USB drives and/or the files you put on them, or even create
dummy files that look like folders, causing people to accidentally run them and infect
their systems.) Totally blow away the infected partition and re-install Windows. Get all
the Windows Updates, install AVG or Avast, connect your USB drive and immediately scan it
with your antivirus and malwarebytes. Copy your files back in place once you're sure it's
safe.
Good luck.
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Yep, the old 'we can fix it for you' scam. The reason they don't tell you up front is they
don't want you to know! A lot of people are naive enough to pay the money - and usually
for nothing.
Once again I'll chant my mantra - when you have your system back
into a good working state, make an IMAGE COPY of your system hard drive. You would have
been back up and running in ten minutes if you had an image copy to recover to. I know
this doesn't help you right now, but it will take the pain away in future.
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Another serious point of advice - PAY for some PROPER security software.
All
of the free antivirus software makers make paid-for commercial antivirus software too, and
they want you to pay, so the free versions are always compromised. AVG Free is close to
useless when it comes to actually getting a virus, Avast says that it is free, then after
a period suddenly tells you it wont protect you any more and you have to pay, and Avira
Free comes up with a massive pop-up ad every time you boot your machine.
Avira Premium Security Suite (what I use), which is anti-virus, firewall, anti-spyware
etc etc is about £30. I've never had any issues with viruses or spyware or anything.
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Quote Mahoobley:
AVG Free is
close to useless when it comes to actually getting a virus
That's not really fair. I have often used AVG
Free to sort out viral infections on friends' and family's machines and it has come up
trumps every time. And it has caught one or two in the studio/office when infected files
have been present on USB sticks and CD-ROMs.
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Quote The Elf:
Yep, the old 'we
can fix it for you' scam. The reason they don't tell you up front is they don't want you
to know! A lot of people are naive enough to pay the money - and usually for nothing.
Except, Spyware Doctor
from PC Tools is a legitimate program with no hidden agendas. So, as long as that's what
Peter has downloaded it is not a scam. I use Spyware Doctor myself and I remember Martin
Walker uses it too and has recommended it a few times in SOS.
The issue might
be, is what Peter has downloaded the real deal or something that appears to be legit but
isn't... In anycase Spyware Doctor is not free.
I use it with two other
anti-spyware apps: Spybot and AdAware. I do alternate scans with each.
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Mahoobley
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Quote The Elf:
Quote Mahoobley:
AVG Free is
close to useless when it comes to actually getting a virus
That's not really fair. I have often used AVG Free
to sort out viral infections on friends' and family's machines and it has come up trumps
every time. And it has caught one or two in the studio/office when infected files have
been present on USB sticks and CD-ROMs.
That surprises me, as my experience with myself and friend's
machines mirror the OP's issue that AVG Free very often misses virus, or fails and even
flat out refuses to remove them. From my experience with it and what I've heard from
others I stand by my opinion on it and will continue to strongly dissuade people from
using it. If AVG Free was that good, why would AVG sell a commercial version?
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Pete (Conz) Connelly
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Quote The Elf:
Quote Mahoobley:
AVG Free is
close to useless when it comes to actually getting a virus
That's not really fair. I have often used AVG Free
to sort out viral infections on friends' and family's machines and it has come up trumps
every time. And it has caught one or two in the studio/office when infected files have
been present on USB sticks and CD-ROMs.
I have used AVG Free for as far back as I can remember... at
least for a few years before I moved back from Derby and I moved back here (Newcastle) in
2005. I can honestly say this has NEVER happened before, hence my naivity, so assume,
until now, AVG Free has done what it said on the tin.
Cheers,
Peter
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Pete (Conz) Connelly
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Quote himalaya:
Quote The Elf:
Yep, the old 'we
can fix it for you' scam. The reason they don't tell you up front is they don't want you
to know! A lot of people are naive enough to pay the money - and usually for nothing.
Except, Spyware Doctor
from PC Tools is a legitimate program with no hidden agendas. So, as long as that's what
Peter has downloaded it is not a scam. I use Spyware Doctor myself and I remember Martin
Walker uses it too and has recommended it a few times in SOS.
The issue might
be, is what Peter has downloaded the real deal or something that appears to be legit but
isn't... In anycase Spyware Doctor is not free.
I use it with two other
anti-spyware apps: Spybot and AdAware. I do alternate scans with each.
Yep, this is exactly it and, to be fair, I
can "usually" tell the difference between a hoax and the real McCoy.
Cheers,
Peter
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Pete (Conz) Connelly
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Quote distaudio:
I usually type
the name of the file in question into google.
You can be sure that there have
been 1000's of other people before you who have had to remove the file and have documented
how to do it or what they have used.
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=restorer32_a.exe&ie=utf-8&oe=utf
-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
Yep, did all this.. but, unless I'm cunning
(and it doesn't always work), it pauses for ages then throws me to another site (usually
advertising skin cream, paintings, or the likes) instead of the site listed in Google.
Cheers,
Peter
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You may also notice a file called reader_s.exe as well.
It would appear that
you have Win32.Heur and/or Virut.
It's a total bastard to get rid of.
I've
just lost machine to it/them.
Symantec has a removal tool for Virut, but this
hasn't worked for me. On advice from the net (trust me, I spent a long time looking) I ran
checks using Dr.Web and AVZ as well as Salitykiller from Kasperksky. That's as well as
having AVG and Spybot give it a once over.
All picked up numerous infected files and
eventually reported a virus free machine in Safe Mode.
But on a normal restart
connected to the internet, it re-infected itself straight away. Something is still in the
machine that connects to the net on startup and downloads the virus.
It even does it
in Safe Mode with Networking enabled.
The net advice also mentions to delete
all .TMP files in all locations. Check your running processes and you should see
reader_s.exe running. Stop that and you should be able to delete any TMP files that are
still in use.
The next advice was to use regedit to get rid of all references to
reader_s.exe from the registry.
After all of that it still didn't work. It
turns out that the virus attaches itself to most of the exe files on your machine. It did
on mine, anyway. So when AVZ, etc removed all the infected files, it took half my machine
with it. I couldn't even run Task Manager in Safe Mode.
With that much damage,
a rebuild is the only option. Windows 7, here I come!
Stu.
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Quote mpostor:
You may also
notice a file called reader_s.exe as well.
It would appear that you have
Win32.Heur and/or Virut.
It's a total bastard to get rid of.
I've just
lost machine to it/them.
Symantec has a removal tool for Virut, but this hasn't
worked for me. On advice from the net (trust me, I spent a long time looking) I ran checks
using Dr.Web and AVZ as well as Salitykiller from Kasperksky. That's as well as having AVG
and Spybot give it a once over.
All picked up numerous infected files and eventually
reported a virus free machine in Safe Mode.
But on a normal restart connected to the
internet, it re-infected itself straight away. Something is still in the machine that
connects to the net on startup and downloads the virus.
It even does it in Safe Mode
with Networking enabled.
The net advice also mentions to delete all .TMP files
in all locations. Check your running processes and you should see reader_s.exe running.
Stop that and you should be able to delete any TMP files that are still in use.
The
next advice was to use regedit to get rid of all references to reader_s.exe from the
registry.
After all of that it still didn't work. It turns out that the virus
attaches itself to most of the exe files on your machine. It did on mine, anyway. So when
AVZ, etc removed all the infected files, it took half my machine with it. I couldn't even
run Task Manager in Safe Mode.
With that much damage, a rebuild is the only
option. Windows 7, here I come!
Stu.
Hi Stu,
Yep, seen that file also on both HD and
running in Task Manager. The Virus you mention are the ones AVG always picks up on but
can't / won't remeove or if AVG does heal it, they come back. Sounds like "Format C:" time
to me!!! FFS.
I have 2x HD's in this machine and have copied everything I want
to back up to this... Have I infected this HD now also?
Cheers,
Peter
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Quote Mahoobley:
If AVG Free was
that good, why would AVG sell a commercial version?
Because the commercial version is always one version ahead. You are
encouraged to upgrade to the latest version and I'm sure they rely a lot on 'confusion' to
get a sale.
But the virus definitions are identical between commercial and free
versions.
I can also only go on what I've read, heard and experienced myself
and AVG seems to do a good job. To be honest I've never heard any bad press for it until
now, but I can't say I make it a point to search for new evaluations of software I've had
for so long! 
While we're on the subject, I've also found Housecall's antivirus web site to be a good
option when you're up against it.
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Quote Mahoobley:
Avast says that
it is free, then after a period suddenly tells you it wont protect you any more and you
have to pay
Really? In my
experience you just have to re-register it (again for free) after using it for a year.
I'm surprised nobody else's mentioned this yet, but by all means avoid IE (in
favour of Mozilla) unless you're using a site that just won't work with another browser.
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I can sympathise. At a previous workplace i had nearly finished an animation and a
colleague brought some extra assets on pen drive. I plugged it in and the trouble started.
The dreaded autorun injecter!
The virus infected so much of windows in such a
short space of time that removing it would have crippled the OS, whilst leaving it there
did nothing more than cripple the OS. (lol)
I finished the project on the
spare computer, the main one had to be reformatted. 
Edited by JGHarding (04/11/09 12:24 PM)
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Quote Mahoobley:
That
surprises me, as my experience with myself and friend's machines mirror the OP's issue
that AVG Free very often misses virus, or fails and even flat out refuses to remove them.
From personal experiance I
agree with that. To narrow it down a bit the's a couple of trojans in the wild that will
target AVG disable it and stop it updating. Once you force an update it will then find the
tojan and delete it, but your left exposed until you do.
AVG's not the only
one this happens with but being well known and free they do get targeted. If your using it
then do yourself a favour and force an update once a week to ensure nothing is happening
in the background un-noticed.
Personal recomendation would be a copy of
Karpersky *OEM* for around £8. Best detection engine in the business.
Quote The Elf:
While
we're on the subject, I've also found Housecall's antivirus web site to be a good option
when you're up against it.
+1 for good old Trendmicro Housecall
If you have a box that's been
crippled, but can still access safemode with networking then do so and run this.
The's also one from Karpersky too:
http://www.kaspersky.co.uk/virusscanner
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Quote himalaya:
Except, Spyware
Doctor from PC Tools is a legitimate program with no hidden agendas. So, as long as that's
what Peter has downloaded it is not a scam. I use Spyware Doctor myself and I remember
Martin Walker uses it too and has recommended it a few times in SOS.
I'm still using Spyware Doctor with
Antivirus, have done for a total of four years now, and have (touch wood) had not a single
problem due to spyware, viruses, trojans...
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Viruses are very hard to get lately IF one avoids the dodgy websites (we all know what
they are). If you avoid them you won't need any "security" programs. And avoid any
workmates, and their memory sticks, that you suspect may go there.
They're exactly
like movie Draculas. They have to have the door opened for them and be invited in for
tea.
I can see protests coming... but protesters will kow the truth as well as me so
it won't do them any good even if they do say they caught the virus by accidentally
visiting the Anglican Times website. 
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Quote Mahoobley:
Avast says that
it is free, then after a period suddenly tells you it wont protect you any more and you
have to pay.
Not so. Every
18 months you have to send for a new registration code via email to keep it up to date.
You don't need to register a new account, you simply update the one you already have. It
remains completely free. I've been using Avast for the last six or seven years. It's saved
my ass on a number of occasions, and has not once let me down. It's powerful and
completely unintrusive, I can't recommend it highly enough.
Quote Mahoobley:
Quote The Elf:
Quote Mahoobley:
AVG Free is
close to useless when it comes to actually getting a virus
That's not really fair. I have often used AVG
Free to sort out viral infections on friends' and family's machines and it has come up
trumps every time. And it has caught one or two in the studio/office when infected files
have been present on USB sticks and CD-ROMs.
That surprises me, as my experience with myself and friend's
machines mirror the OP's issue that AVG Free very often misses virus, or fails and even
flat out refuses to remove them. From my experience with it and what I've heard from
others I stand by my opinion on it and will continue to strongly dissuade people from
using it. If AVG Free was that good, why would AVG sell a commercial version?
That's my experience too, twice.
I'll never use AVG again, that's for sure.
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Quote Pete (Conz) Connelly:
Hi Stu,
Yep, seen that file also on both HD and running in Task
Manager. The Virus you mention are the ones AVG always picks up on but can't / won't
remeove or if AVG does heal it, they come back. Sounds like "Format C:" time to me!!!
FFS.
I have 2x HD's in this machine and have copied everything I want to back
up to this... Have I infected this HD now also?
Cheers,
Peter
I honestly don't know. I've backed
everything important up as well, so it's going to be a full wipe and re-install for me.
For what it's worth, all this chat about x being better than y for detecting
viruses doesn't do much for me.
All my anti-virus programs detected the virus. None
of them have been able to remove it. I agree that prevention is better than cure, but
you'd think that these things would know what to do to get rid of the things they find,
wouldn't you?
I don't so much need virus detection, more virus removal.
Stu.
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Quote mpostor:
I don't so much
need virus detection, more virus removal.
You need good, ongoing virus protection, so that you
don't ever need to do virus removal (next time). Virus removal is shutting the door after
the horse has bolted. An antivirus can't restore lost system files, etc.
From
several people's experience here, AVG is not good at protecting in realtime, OR at
removing viruses either.
Whereas Avast, in my experiences, is exceptional and
stops viruses before they ever get onto your system.
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Quote tex:
I can see
protests coming... but protesters will kow the truth as well as me so it won't do them any
good even if they do say they caught the virus by accidentally visiting the Anglican Times
website.
Next time someone
compromises your mates bands shoddly hosted blog and injects a script that opens a
backdoor into your machine then feel free to send me a snap of yourself in a pope hat 
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Quote Pete Kaine:
Quote tex:
I can see
protests coming... but protesters will kow the truth as well as me so it won't do them any
good even if they do say they caught the virus by accidentally visiting the Anglican Times
website.
Next time someone
compromises your mates bands shoddly hosted blog and injects a script that opens a
backdoor into your machine then feel free to send me a snap of yourself in a pope hat
Dominus
vobiscum et cum spiritu tuo. And mea culpa mea maximus culpa Probably...
Where's me hat?
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I installed Anti-Malware, reset PC (unplugging LAN cable) and did a full scan. Found and
cleaned loads, including restorer32_a.exe. Reset, ran AVG, founds loads of other stuff,
including the two virus' mentioned earlier, and "think" it sorted stuff out. Hit reset
again THEN:
Went to - C:\Documents and Settings\Peter Connelly - to check if
any of the dodgt files were there. Everything OK until I plugged in the LAN cable and
suddenly reader_s.exe appears... as soon as it did, I deleted the file and opened Task
Manager to make sure nothing was in there. I'm sure there was a file 8.TMP or something,
but I ended its process (or maybe that was earlier, I can't rememeber?). Apart from that,
nothing else suspicious. Next, I deleted FULL internet history and even reset IE to
factory settings.
PC's been absolutely fine since, although I know when I reset
again, I might have to follow some of the procedures mentioned above before I start
"playing" again.
Cheers,
Peter
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Quote tex:
Viruses are very hard
to get lately IF one avoids the dodgy websites (we all know what they are). If you avoid
them you won't need any "security" programs. And avoid any workmates, and their memory
sticks, that you suspect may go there.
They're exactly like movie Draculas. They have
to have the door opened for them and be invited in for tea.
I can see protests
coming... but protesters will kow the truth as well as me so it won't do them any good
even if they do say they caught the virus by accidentally visiting the Anglican Times
website.
Admittedly, I was curiously
lurking somewhere I shouldn't have been so won't be doing that again in a hurry, I'll
say!!! Haha
P
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www.universal-sound-design.com, www.myspace.com/universalsounddesign, www.twitter.com/PeterConnelly72
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SongCave
Joined: 23/11/07
Posts: 29
Loc: Earth
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If my work is important and I put a $ value on it - and I have a PC - I am happy to pay
for a commercial product and get full support for such scenarios.
No freeware,
no free trials, no "download and let me help you disinfect your PC" guff.
1.
Backup regularly to a different box/PC.
2. Try and keep recording PC off the
internet/email
3. Keep an image
3. Pay for a 3 year subscription to Trend (only
my choice - there are other good commercial products).
You get what you pay for
IMHO.
The very few freeware/open source products I use (like open office) have
had some serious due diligent prior to downloading and installing - not on a whim.
Also to install only from the vendor site - not mirrors from referring sites.
The
msi can be full of surprises.
In fact give me any msi and I can open, modify and
recompile in the time it takes to make a cup of tea.
Questionable also are
free programs from bit torrent.
If you choose to use them your choice but - as
they say "Please assume the position"........ 
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oggyb
Joined: 09/02/08
Posts: 839
Loc: Leeds, UK
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Quote tex:
Quote Pete Kaine:
Quote tex:
...
...
Dominus vobiscum et cum spiritu tuo. And mea
culpa mea maximus culpa Probably...
Where's me hat?
Quite. . . since it is "mea maxima
culpa". A phrase you will not find in the Anglican Times
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www.ogonline.org
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Pete Kaine
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Joined: 10/07/03
Posts: 1020
Loc: Manchester
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Quote tex:
Quote Pete Kaine:
Quote tex:
I can see
protests coming... but protesters will kow the truth as well as me so it won't do them any
good even if they do say they caught the virus by accidentally visiting the Anglican Times
website.
Next time someone
compromises your mates bands shoddly hosted blog and injects a script that opens a
backdoor into your machine then feel free to send me a snap of yourself in a pope hat
Dominus
vobiscum et cum spiritu tuo. And mea culpa mea maximus culpa Probably...
Perhaps "res ipsa loquitur" would be
the cry?
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3XS Audio Systems
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DaleSmith
Joined: 29/04/08
Posts: 112
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hey. use Vipre from Sunbelt software. its the best you can get, and the free trial works
properly. AVG has its uses, but removing trojans isn't one of them..
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tex
member
Joined: 01/04/03
Posts: 597
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Quote oggyb:
Quote tex:
Quote Pete Kaine:
Quote tex:
...
...
Dominus vobiscum et cum spiritu tuo. And mea
culpa mea maximus culpa Probably...
Where's me hat?
Quite. . . since it is "mea maxima
culpa". A phrase you will not find in the Anglican Times
The pope might if, like me, he
learned latin from gladiator movies. Funny, you never see the pope's wife do you?
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If you really want to offend someone.
Tell them the truth. Would I lie to you?
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tex
member
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Posts: 597
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Quote DaleSmith:
hey. use Vipre
from Sunbelt software. its the best you can get, and the free trial works properly. AVG
has its uses, but removing trojans isn't one of them..
But to get a
trojan you have to invite it in, make it dinner, polish it's boots, give it the car keys
and your first born, show it where you keep the knives and dig a hole for yourself in the
cellar... which is why trojan removal is low on the priorities.
Watch out for
programs that say you have a "trojan" and then you watch gratefully as it "removes" said
trojan.
The worst virus on the planet must be Norton's.
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If you really want to offend someone.
Tell them the truth. Would I lie to you?
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Dynamic Mike
Joined: 31/12/06
Posts: 702
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I think it's probably naive to presume the people creating viruses and the people who make
a living removing them are entirely different people.
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learog
member
Joined: 29/03/01
Posts: 74
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Agree with comment about Avira Antivirus
Good product - beat all other products in PC
pro lab virus scan
Scamware removal info here - worked in corporate IT for 12
years and I recommend this
http://www.pchell.com/support/roguespywarecleaners.shtml
hope this helps
Lea
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Shambolic Charm
Joined: 13/07/05
Posts: 588
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Quote Dynamic Mike:
I think it's
probably naive to presume the people creating viruses and the people who make a living
removing them are entirely different people.
yes thought about this myself. Who would put in so much time AND
have the knowledge plus motivation? Circumstantial evidence only of course but thought
porovoking.
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http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=739263
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wave1
Joined: 17/02/05
Posts: 213
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If that is the case they are a bunch of C%&ts who deserve an extremely painful death.
I've recently had to remove a couple of trojans picked up from different university
systems via the dreaded memory stick. I thought universities would be up on this stuff?
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