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Steve A
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Dual Booting with Windows 7
      #785314 - 06/11/09 05:10 PM

Hi, what's the concensus regarding how best to dual boot a new install of Windows 7 alongside two existing XP installations? I currently use the GAG boot manager but is it now the case that I won't need it and Windows 7 will give me the Boot option to all three installations after I install it?

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Re: Dual Booting with Windows 7 new [Re: Steve A]
      #785332 - 06/11/09 05:58 PM

Hi Steve,

Although I've not tried it yet myself, I heard that even the latest version of GAG doesn't currently like Windows 7.

Windows 7 SHOULD give you its boot menu, but I've never had a lot of luck with Windows own menus, which seem to trample over everything else rather than leave it alone


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Re: Dual Booting with Windows 7 new [Re: Steve A]
      #785341 - 06/11/09 06:11 PM

Hi Martin, re GAG that's the impression I got as well. From what I've been able to surmise so far, Windows 7 will cope with other installations as long as they are on the same physical disk, which fortunately mine will be. I'm going to give it a try this weekend so I'll report back how I get on!

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Re: Dual Booting with Windows 7 new [Re: Steve A]
      #785427 - 07/11/09 08:05 AM

I recently got a new computer with Vista on it, I created another partition and installed Win7 RC, next time I booted up there was a choice of OS to boot from, wether the same would occur with an existing XP install I don't know, when my full version of win7 arrived I installed the 64 bit version on yet another partition and that gave me a choice of three OSs, I have since removed Vista and installed the 32 bit version of Win7 and deleted the Win7 RC partition, very simple although I did have to run the repair option from the Win7 disk to remove the reference to the RC install from the boot menu, this was spotted by windows and done automatically,seamless operation.

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Re: Dual Booting with Windows 7 new [Re: Steve A]
      #785828 - 09/11/09 09:52 AM

Mixed results. Windows 7 installed fine and picked up the other XP partition that was active at the time I uninstalled GAG. But getting it to recognise the other XP partition and include it in the menu has proved very difficult. Fortunately I only really needed to keep my old internet XP for backup/emergencies so I can live without it for now - I guess I may need to wait for someone to develop a proper Windows 7 boot manager to do this (I believe Windows 7 is different to Vista in this respect so current ones are no good)!

The other thing I've noticed is that whereas with old dual boot systems, the inactive partition is completely invisible to the active OS, this time it isn't and in both cases drive letters get allocated and the partitions fully accessible - although this is easily fixed by removing the drive letters using Window's disk management facility.

This is either a good thing or a bad thing. Good insofar as it is now relatively easy to access the inactive drive from the other OS should one ever need to without going through lengthy jiggery pokery with partition managing software. On the other hand, now that the drive is no longer truly invisible, does it leave itself open to being harmed by viruses or other background operations courtesy of the active OS?

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Re: Dual Booting with Windows 7 new [Re: Steve A]
      #785868 - 09/11/09 11:40 AM

I suspect some viruses can get at partitions that are hidden, but like you I prefer not to see inactive Windows partitions, which is another reason why I prefer to use GAG than the Windows boot menu, because this provides an easy-to-use menu command to do this automatically.

I suspect GAG will be updated to be compatible with Windows 7 sometime soon.


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Re: Dual Booting with Windows 7 new [Re: Martin Walker]
      #785939 - 09/11/09 02:01 PM

I Installed XP first, created a second partition, that I put Vista and then recently the upgrade to 7 64bit on.
I use windows boot manager, worked fine and really simple.

I do see the other partitons, but as the PC never goes near the internet its no issue for me.

One odd thing though, even though my XP partition is C:\ when I boot into 7 it calls it partiton C:\ as well, vista didn`t do this. You need to be careful where you're installing things...

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