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Guillermo Navarrete



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Cubase 7.5 official announcement!
      #1076755 - 29/11/13 10:01 AM
Hello all,

I am happy to announce the latest version of our flagship product Cubase 7.5.

With Cubase 7.5 you can create alternative TrackVersions, keep focused at all times with the track visibility management system and explore the new sonic possibilities of Groove Agent SE 4, HALion Sonic SE 2, LoopMash FX, the REVelation reverb and many more…

For detailed information please visit our Website:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/cubase/whats_new/whats_new_in_cubase_ 75.html

It will be available from December 4.

Information about the Grace Period update can be found on the following link:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/grace_period/cubase_75_grace_period_in fo.html

Best regards,
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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: Guillermo Navarrete]
      #1076756 - 29/11/13 10:07 AM
Looking good. How well is this working on Mavericks?

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: Guillermo Navarrete]
      #1076763 - 29/11/13 10:34 AM
Track Versions - like it!

Track hiding and visibility presets - at last, I can rid my Arrange page of those cluttery guitar DI tracks!

Nice to see Magneto again and I have high hopes for the new algo reverb.

With the Auto Hitpoints - what control do I have over threshold and the note division filter? Are these something I apply only *after* the auto-detection, or can I set the auto-detection process to apply them?

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: The Elf]
      #1076766 - 29/11/13 10:52 AM
I assume that the transient thing is so you can do PT-style tab-to-transient without performing any other process/calculation first. Would be nice to have some control, but it will be welcome anyway — tab from kick hit to kick hit to navigate your drum track, or note to note on bass... It works really nicely in PT without customising.

All in all, looks like a decent .5 update to me. I'd like to have seen better integration of the strip and the third party inserts though. And a mended external FX ping/delay compensation, which still doesn't work. But like I say, on the whole it looks a decent update.

If the new reverb is any good, maybe I can retire my REV7s!


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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: Mixedup]
      #1076773 - 29/11/13 11:22 AM
Still no varispeed, dammit.

Here's what I want from future versions of Cubase:
1. Varispeed.
2. Varispeed.
3. Varispeed.
4. Varispeed.
5. Varispeed.


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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: The Elf]
      #1076775 - 29/11/13 11:30 AM
Hello,

Quote The Elf:

Track Versions - like it!

Track hiding and visibility presets - at last, I can rid my Arrange page of those cluttery guitar DI tracks!

Nice to see Magneto again and I have high hopes for the new algo reverb.

With the Auto Hitpoints - what control do I have over threshold and the note division filter? Are these something I apply only *after* the auto-detection, or can I set the auto-detection process to apply them?




Hitpoints are automatically calculated in the background as soon as audio material is recorded or imported into the arrangement window.

You can now “tab to the transients” on audio events in the Project window — yes, it’s as easy as it sounds

You do not need to do any further adjustments.

Best regards,
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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: Guillermo Navarrete]
      #1076776 - 29/11/13 11:39 AM
Thanks Guillermo. But I think Elf's point was that it would be nice to *have the option* of setting a threshold... so that the transient detection could be adjusted to ignore eg hat spill in a snare mic track, or low kick hits in a bass track.

Is there any news on the prospect of fixing the external FX problems (failure to ping properly with some interfaces screwing up the delay compensation, & loss of I/O info every time you switch interface drivers with no recall when you switch back...)? I'd really hoped that would have been addressed by now.


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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: Mixedup]
      #1076781 - 29/11/13 12:37 PM
Quote Mixedup:

Thanks Guillermo. But I think Elf's point was that it would be nice to *have the option* of setting a threshold... so that the transient detection could be adjusted to ignore eg hat spill in a snare mic track, or low kick hits in a bass track.



Yes, that's exactly what I meant. It is great to tab between transients, but not if I have to hit tab 16 times to go forward one bar!

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: Guillermo Navarrete]
      #1076794 - 29/11/13 02:06 PM
Hi GN,

I'm having trouble understanding the new Instrument (t)racks function.

Right now I use instrument tracks exclusively, except for orchestral libraries, and I like how it works. How will this change my workflow for the better?

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: oggyb]
      #1076796 - 29/11/13 02:15 PM
Quote oggyb:

Hi GN,

I'm having trouble understanding the new Instrument (t)racks function.

Right now I use instrument tracks exclusively, except for orchestral libraries, and I like how it works. How will this change my workflow for the better?




If I understand it correctly it shouldn't force you to change your workflow, but will open up new options — eg multiple output channels from BFD, Kontakt etc. Previously, to do that you had to load the instrument in the VSTi rack and create a MIDI track to play that instrument. (When introduced the instrument tracks were limited to stereo outputs for some perfectly valid reason that I've since forgotten...).


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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: oggyb]
      #1076801 - 29/11/13 02:33 PM
Instrument Tracks were always a PITA, because you couldn't share them with other MIDI tracks and (to a lesser extent, IMO) because you couldn't use multiple outputs.

In some of the mixes I get to work on I find that folks would have a new instrument loaded into Instrument Tracks, rather than use MIDI tracks and load a single instrument into the VST Instrument rack. In extreme versions I've had 12 Instrument Tracks of drums each with it's own instance of Kontakt loaded with the same full kit!!

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: Guillermo Navarrete]
      #1076821 - 29/11/13 04:07 PM
We need customisable skins and fader resizing!

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: The Elf]
      #1076836 - 29/11/13 07:16 PM
Quote The Elf:

Instrument Tracks were always a PITA, because you couldn't share them with other MIDI tracks and (to a lesser extent, IMO) because you couldn't use multiple outputs.

In some of the mixes I get to work on I find that folks would have a new instrument loaded into Instrument Tracks, rather than use MIDI tracks and load a single instrument into the VST Instrument rack. In extreme versions I've had 12 Instrument Tracks of drums each with it's own instance of Kontakt loaded with the same full kit!!



Thanks, yup, I've had that problem meself, but considered it minor in the context of Haswell and 12GB RAM.

So it doesn't spread instruments meaninglessly across two areas, causing confusion? Does it simply mean that Instruments are migrated back from the track to the F11 window, except you can now use an instrument track to control them instead of MIDI only? Does this deprecate the MIDI track?

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: oggyb]
      #1076842 - 29/11/13 08:42 PM
Quote oggyb:

So it doesn't spread instruments meaninglessly across two areas, causing confusion?



We'll have to wait until we can fool around with it, but I'm reading as it saying that all Instruments will now appear in one place (in the rack), even if they were created by an Instrument Track. If I'm right then I'm happy with that.

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: oggyb]
      #1076844 - 29/11/13 08:44 PM
Quote oggyb:

Quote The Elf:

Instrument Tracks were always a PITA, because you couldn't share them with other MIDI tracks and (to a lesser extent, IMO) because you couldn't use multiple outputs.

In some of the mixes I get to work on I find that folks would have a new instrument loaded into Instrument Tracks, rather than use MIDI tracks and load a single instrument into the VST Instrument rack. In extreme versions I've had 12 Instrument Tracks of drums each with it's own instance of Kontakt loaded with the same full kit!!



Thanks, yup, I've had that problem meself, but considered it minor in the context of Haswell and 12GB RAM.

So it doesn't spread instruments meaninglessly across two areas, causing confusion? Does it simply mean that Instruments are migrated back from the track to the F11 window, except you can now use an instrument track to control them instead of MIDI only? Does this deprecate the MIDI track?




As far as I could see an Instrument Track was merely a MIDI track locked to one instance of a VSTi. Marginally quicker to set up, but you paid by losing a lot of flexibility. Was I missing something about them?


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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: Exalted Wombat]
      #1076847 - 29/11/13 09:37 PM
Quote Exalted Wombat:

As far as I could see an Instrument Track was merely a MIDI track locked to one instance of a VSTi. Marginally quicker to set up, but you paid by losing a lot of flexibility. Was I missing something about them?



Nope, that's about it, but let's suppose, for example, you wanted to record the left and right hand parts of a piano track separately... You could point two MIDI tracks to a single rack VSTi, or you could have two Instrument Tracks, but for the latter option you would need to have two VSTis instantiated and the same piano patch loaded into both. It was wasteful on resources.

Plus you couldn't add outputs to say, separate kick, snare, overheads, etc. from a single Instrument Track.

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: The Elf]
      #1076852 - 29/11/13 10:16 PM
So now "Create Instrument Track" will just be another way to put a VSTi in the rack and assign a track to it. Hardly earth-shattering, but fine by me.


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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: Exalted Wombat]
      #1076856 - 29/11/13 10:41 PM
I think it's called 'saving people from themselves'!

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: Guillermo Navarrete]
      #1076859 - 29/11/13 11:14 PM
I think I would rather have done away with the instrument rack altogether and just had more flexible instrument tracks. Maybe this actually IS kind of that, and we'll have to wait to find out.

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: oggyb]
      #1076871 - 30/11/13 02:14 AM
Quote oggyb:

I think I would rather have done away with the instrument rack altogether and just had more flexible instrument tracks. Maybe this actually IS kind of that, and we'll have to wait to find out.




I'd vote for the opposite! Forget Instrument Tracks. They're only MIDI tracks anyway. Making them look like something different is just confusing.


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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: oggyb]
      #1076881 - 30/11/13 09:26 AM
I'm with Wombat. I always felt that Instrument Tracks were ill-conceived. I'm please that Steinberg have taken this step.

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: Guillermo Navarrete]
      #1076990 - 01/12/13 02:01 PM
Bah.

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: oggyb]
      #1076991 - 01/12/13 02:24 PM
Quote oggyb:

Bah.





I think it's the best of both worlds, Oggy. You still get your instrument track, but we get the instrument loaded into the rack!

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Re: Cubase 7.5 official announcement! new [Re: Guillermo Navarrete]
      #1077103 - 02/12/13 01:09 PM
Hello all,

I am glad to see so many positive comments about the update.

About some of your questions:

Quote The Elf:

Quote Mixedup:

Thanks Guillermo. But I think Elf's point was that it would be nice to *have the option* of setting a threshold... so that the transient detection could be adjusted to ignore eg hat spill in a snare mic track, or low kick hits in a bass track.



Yes, that's exactly what I meant. It is great to tab between transients, but not if I have to hit tab 16 times to go forward one bar!




No, it is fix, I do not remember the value correctly but I think it is 50-50.
Obviously you can adjust the threshold if you open the sample editor as before.

@oggyb, as Elf mentioned, it will not change your workflow. Now you have the possibility to see the instrument that you are using on your instrument track on the instrument rack as well.
Therefore you can simply add another instrument track and send the output to that same instrument, like you where doing with MIDI tracks.
Don't forget that in instrument tracks you can use Insert effects like compresor, delay etc...

Also, now that I am here I would like to clarify something that has being coming up around the web.

The 7.5 update will be available from December 4, 2013, from Steinberg dealers worldwide as a boxed version and in the Steinberg Online Shop as a download version. While the boxed update includes 3.5 GB content and requires a 500 MB application installer download, the download update version available through the Steinberg Online Shop requires the download of the content as well as the application installer (4 GB download).

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Edited by Guillermo Navarrete (02/12/13 01:10 PM)


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