Hi all,
In December 2011, Matt explained that cubase "can’t compensate for negative latency" when using outboard.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec11/articles/cubase-1211.htm

In the article, it says that steinberg said that "they’ll fix it in an update during the current product cycle"

I was just wondering if anybody could advise me if the bug has indeed been fixed in the recent versions?

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Brian Gardiner

Hi Brian,

I don't know the answer but next time I'm sat in front of Cubase I'll check and report back.

It's worth stressing that most interfaces don't suffer, in that they don't have to report negative latencies. As I understand it, RME interfaces in particular suffer, as for some reason (that I don't pretend to understand) they need to report negative values when working with ADAT expanders, as in my own setup

Regards,

Matt

btw... strictly speaking this shouldn't be in the Mac forum, as Cubase is cross-platform. Being predominantly a PC user, I was lucky to stumble on this one

Hi Matt,
Thanks for the reply.

Fair point about the location of the post. I wasn't sure where to post it myself.

I am using a Fireface 800 and and use both ADAT ports to hook analogue and some digital gear. I sold my Cubase a while back as I was using Logic, but would be keen to return to Cubase if this works without issues. I don't have a dongle at the moment to try the latest Cubase releases.

If you get a chance to check or indeed if anyone else out there can let me know if its fixed I would be very grateful.

Thanks a lot,
Brian.

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Brian Gardiner

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In the article, it says that steinberg said that "they’ll fix it in an update during the current product cycle"

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If Steinberg's past are anything to go by then I would not even bother to wait for their 'promised bug fix'. I had this crap from them for over a year when waiting for critical bug fixes to SX 3 and they eventually ditched the free fix for all SX 3 owners and told us to BUY version 4.

Needless to say, I don't use their products anymore.

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Samplecraze
Stretch That Note

To be fair, Zuke, in the last paid update, they made all the fixes available for free to owners of the previous version; just not the new features.

...and Logic 8 was buggy as hell on my MacBook. Bugs not fixed.

...PT10 on my studio PC is buggy as hell. Not yet fixed.

...Reaper buggy when presented with plug-ins that it doesn't get on with, on both platforms. Still not fixed.

...Studio One just doesn't have the functionality I need.

Etc etc.

If I walked away from them all I'd be left pretty much with Sonar and DP. [shivers]

Oh, and SX3 was a bit of a pig compared with everything since. Lots of mysterious 'poof' bugs that lost all your work. And the functionality was pretty poor in terms of routing etc. C6.5 is working rather nicely or me for the most part.

I hear you Mixed. I have no issues with bugs needing ironing out but when a manufacturer promises it as part of the £360 purchasing price, then they better deliver on their promise. Steinberg didn't and I'm not really that bothered if they changed their policies later as I was left with a really flakey piece of software that cost a small fortune in its day.

I use Reaper now and it does need a little fine tuning but I bet Cockos won't ditch it and tell me to buy 'the new and improved Reaper gazillion.9' after promising me the fixes for free......well, I hope not......

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Samplecraze
Stretch That Note

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it does need a little fine tuning

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Quote Mixedup:

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To be fair, Zuke, in the last paid update, they made all the fixes available for free to owners of the previous version; just not the new features.

...and Logic 8 was buggy as hell on my MacBook. Bugs not fixed.

...PT10 on my studio PC is buggy as hell. Not yet fixed.

...Reaper buggy when presented with plug-ins that it doesn't get on with, on both platforms. Still not fixed.

...Studio One just doesn't have the functionality I need.

Etc etc.

If I walked away from them all I'd be left pretty much with Sonar and DP. [shivers]

Oh, and SX3 was a bit of a pig compared with everything since. Lots of mysterious 'poof' bugs that lost all your work. And the functionality was pretty poor in terms of routing etc. C6.5 is working rather nicely or me for the most part.

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I wonder if Samplitude ProX is mac friendly yet? Don't even need a dongle to try it.....

Dave.

Hi Matt.
I was wondering if you had a chance to test this. It would be great to know if steinberg did follow up on the info in the article.

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Brian Gardiner

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Hi Matt.
I was wondering if you had a chance to test this. It would be great to know if steinberg did follow up on the info in the article.

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Not yet. Too busy getting the latest wonderful issue of SOS out the door, and I don't have the latest version on my laptop at work...

Should get a chance to investigate in the next couple of days though

Still seems to be an issue. I can set latency values manually, but only to a positive value. Using the 'ping' function, the audio is going out and coming back through the right channels, but it's returning a latency of zero. So it doesn't appear to have been fixed as per Cubase 6.5.0 (which is the current version at the time of writing). I'll drop the guys at Steinberg a line and see if there's any news...

Thanks a million Matt.

I hope that the guys at Steinberg respond.

Best Regards,
Brian Gardiner.

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Brian Gardiner