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Bluegrass



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Help mixing two tracks down to one in pro tools.
      #1003832 - 16/08/12 11:52 AM
I have a banjo track recorded using two mics as two separate mono files. I want to combine the two to one track to get the best tone, and then pan the mixed track either side of a central vocal. Is it best to mix the two tracks down to mono, then copy that file and pan the two, or instead, bounce down to a stereo file and pan that either side. I ask because I am not sure when bouncing to a stereo track if the two mono tracks are sent interleaved to L and R or whether the mono tracks remain seperate, one sent L and the other R. Thanks for any help.


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BJG145



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Re: Help mixing two tracks down to one in pro tools. new [Re: Bluegrass]
      #1003843 - 16/08/12 12:15 PM
I think this "bouncing to stereo" idea is a bit of a red herring. I'd start by panning them left and right and see if you like the sound of it. You'll need to watch for phase issues and test it in mono. You might want to take a look at this...

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep09/articles/qa0909_4.htm


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Bluegrass



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Re: Help mixing two tracks down to one in pro tools. new [Re: BJG145]
      #1003845 - 16/08/12 12:26 PM
Thanks for the reply. The issue we have is that we mainly like the ribbon mic, but want a little of the cond. mic in there too. We then want the mixed sound in equal measure and tone either side of the vocal rather than the darker ribbon on one side and cond. on the other.


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BJG145



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Re: Help mixing two tracks down to one in pro tools. new [Re: Bluegrass]
      #1003853 - 16/08/12 12:47 PM
Fair enough. In that case I guess you could blend your two tracks to make a new mono track (watching for phase issues) and then use some kind of "stereo widening" effect or "artificial track doubling" if you feel you want to. You might just want to try reverbs and delays in the first instance though.

See here for stereo trickery...

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep10/articles/pt-0910.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/articles/pcmusician_0107.htm


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Re: Help mixing two tracks down to one in pro tools. new [Re: Bluegrass]
      #1003882 - 16/08/12 03:11 PM
Quote Bluegrass:

We then want the mixed sound in equal measure and tone either side of the vocal




That's not possible. If it is equal in tone and level, and it is the same performance (ie one file mixed to mono) then what you have is a mono signal positioned in the phantom centre when playing in stereo.

The usual approaches if you want to create some spread would be to double track the part (ie play the same part again, exactly in time) and pan that one side and the original the other; or to use some sort of reverb ambience/delay patch to spread the sound — maybe place the mono track on one side and send to a mono reverb or delay and return that to the other side. There are some other pseudo stereo techniques too, but I'd suggest sticking to the basics for starters.

Also, you don't actually have to bounce the tracks down to mono — just route them both to the same mono bus. Then you can process each independently on its own track, and process the whole sound and level by using the bus channel


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Re: Help mixing two tracks down to one in pro tools. new [Re: Bluegrass]
      #1004188 - 18/08/12 11:27 AM
How about just create a new aux stereo bus track and send the two banjo tracks to that while having them panned hard middle. Then pan the aux track to your taste.

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