narpin99
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Would the human ear be a good microphone?
#1018462 - 13/11/12 10:49 PM
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This is a silly question I have always wanted to ask. If you were somehow able
to wire an xlr lead into a human ear (obviously this is not actually possible - but let's
pretend) Would it make a good recording mic? Part of me thinks that it would
be the perfect mic? For example it would have very low self noise characteristics. However sometimes we select microphones that give an 'unatural' or 'larger than life'
sound. Would it just be a boring ruler flat omni aka a measurement mic. Humour
me.
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1018467 - 13/11/12 11:26 PM
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But which bit of the ear are you wiring up?
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narpin99
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1018470 - 13/11/12 11:43 PM
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Good point. I suppose the output signal the auditory nerve. However I'm more
asking this from a philosophical standpoint. As in can we engineer a better listening
device using technology than nature has provided. Or to look at it another
way. Is the goal of any microphone design to be as close to 'reality' as we perceive it?
Or to enhance reality? Maybe I'm losing touch with reality?
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1018499 - 14/11/12 09:21 AM
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The thing is the human ear is extremely connected with the on goings of reality. The ears
output is interpretted by the brain, as you can direct what it hears to some degree, you
can choose what you wish to focus on. Subconsciously there is also the filtering out of
'information' which is not deemed of value. It's frequency response also changes depending
on the level of the audio entering the ear. I think it might be difficult to model the ear
based on these factors and think mics are best because they produce a more predictable
response in practical recording situations. It is complex because the ear and
brain are an interdependent phenomena, an ear is not much use on it's own (a wave guide)
without consciousness being able to interpret it's output. cheers SafeandSound mastering mastering dance music
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1018503 - 14/11/12 09:30 AM
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Its an interesting thought.
A lot of our perception of sound is done in the
brain in much the same way our brain constructs what it thinks we should be seeing...
After all relying solely on the mechanics of our eyes, everything would appear upside
down!!
Our brain filters lots of things which will shape how we hear sounds.
Hence loudness perception. Being more alert to alarm sounds though they may be quiet,
being able to pick out a single conversation in a crowded room etc. Its all clever
stuff.
I'd have thought the 'best' microphone would be one that is able to
provide the 'best' information to a sound generator to reproduce the same air pressure
variation to re-generate the pressure waves in the air as they were, rather than only
reproducing the air pressures that the mechanics of the humans ears are sesitive to.
Maybe you should use a cat's ear (Don't try it on the neighbours pet!) they can
hear a wider range than us lowly humans. But again, it could be all down to perception
thing rather than mechanical collection of data.
Maybe bionic DAC would be more
useful?!
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Moroccomoose
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1018504 - 14/11/12 09:31 AM
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SNAP!!!
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1018514 - 14/11/12 10:10 AM
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Hmmm... if the ear isn't accurate (which we know it isn't), then you're capturing sound
with one, and then replaying it through another, thus doubling whatever effect. Unless you
plan on directly replaying the signal to a brain without first going through the ear. Interesting thought, though. There's evidence to show that the brain is quite
malleable in terms of how it interprets the senses. In mild form, that can manifest itself
in synesthesia — and is the case for everyone at an early age — but research has
shown that this can be manipulated: people have been able to develop a sixth assisted
'sense', such as detecting direction using magnetism and a vibrating belt. After a while,
the belt vibrations are interpreted differently by the brain — it no longer has to go
through the steps of "ah, north is the buzzer at 12 o'clock, so I'll turn that way" or
whatever; it just reacts to the impulse and immediately 'knows' where north is. *In
theory* I see no reason why a brain couldn't be retrained to similarly sense sound that is
captured as a signal and is directly 'played' into a sensory receptor other than the ear.
On the other hand, you could just try getting the mic selection and placement
right and play it through a decent speaker
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1018556 - 14/11/12 01:36 PM
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Did you ever read this SoS article about the ear? How the Ear Works
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SafeandSound Masteri...
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1018586 - 14/11/12 03:23 PM
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It is also unlikely that a biological organ evolved as a very effective means of danger
avoidance would make a great drum kit recording, lol. SafeandSound Mastering CD Mastering
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1018590 - 14/11/12 04:00 PM
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Well I would like one, if there was such a thing.. When im tracking, what I
want is what I hear, but the mic hears something completely different, then you have to
spend time compensating for this..
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1018606 - 14/11/12 06:00 PM
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I've been writing about something related to this: Alexander Graham Bell built a
Phonautograph using parts of a human Ear. Here's a webpage about it you might find interesting.
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1018626 - 14/11/12 09:12 PM
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I suspect that the human ear would be a terrible microphone... However the human ear
coupled to that rather clever bit of signal processing firmware AKA TheBrain(TM) is a
different matter. It's like the eye... Rubbish! Only around 5MPix in colour
mode and a dirty great hole in the middle of the sensor. But boy, does that image
processing software kick a$$
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Scramble
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1018632 - 14/11/12 09:25 PM
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And the image is mostly out of focus. And upside down. And the colour contrast is not much
like the processed result.
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1018740 - 15/11/12 05:18 PM
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er... what (apart from the ear/eye) are you comparing it to? Do you plug your HD devices
directly into your brain?
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Piccco
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Re: Would the human ear be a good microphone?
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#1019383 - 20/11/12 05:00 AM
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Interesting chat. I think you would have a living human plugged in like a kinda living,
breathing EQ in the signal chain choosing what to focus in on. Otherwise it might
inadvertently miss what your trying to record, like a omni mic in a busy room.
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