sc1460
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Waves L2 - the sound of todays generation, really?!!
#1026516 - 31/12/12 10:05 PM
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In a previous Sound on Sound producer Jeff Bhaskar (i think) says quite clearly that when
he wants to give his productions a 'today' vibe he straps the Waves L2 on the master buss.
(He goes on to say this is 2012 not 1972).
I have tried the L2, the UAD
Maximiser, Cytomic Glue and various others in my tool kit and frankly the differences are
so subtle very few people can tell the difference between them (including an engineer who
works at Star Radio though please refrain from sending in any obvious sarcastic
comments).
Surely by the time the track has reached mastering IT IS 99% DONE.
Way more factor will have impacted the vibe by that point than the buss compressor at the
end?
(I did note that the Fun track he produced went through some what I
describe as awesome studios and musicianship, so...)
Anyone else swear by the
Waves L2 as the sound of this generation?
Happy New Year!
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Martin Walker
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Re: Waves L2 - the sound of todays generation, really?!!
[Re: sc1460]
#1026611 - 01/01/13 05:02 PM
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I can't say that I do - the Waves L2 is an excellent mastering limiter, but no better than
several others in my collection. In fact, I've just remembered that I included
the L2 and L3 Ultramaximisers among the candidates in my transparency tests when reviewing
PSP's Xenon back in SOS August 2008: "To test out PSP's claims of extra
loudness with ultimate transparency, I performed some blind tests against a selection of
other mastering limiters, comprising Izotope's Ozone 3 Loudness Maximiser module,
Voxengo's Elephant 2, Waves' L2 and L3 Ultramaximisers, and Wave Arts' FinalPlug 5." www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug08/articles/pspxenon.htmYou
can read my personal findings in the above link  Martin
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britney
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Re: Waves L2 - the sound of todays generation, really?!!
[Re: sc1460]
#1026632 - 01/01/13 07:31 PM
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I expect he cited the L2 coz that's what he's got, and therefore, obviously, uses. Rather
than meaning that the L2 is the must have-toy if you want to sell records in this
day and age.
Its kind of hard to argue that military grade limiting is not the
sound of today's generation.
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The Elf
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Re: Waves L2 - the sound of todays generation, really?!!
[Re: sc1460]
#1026634 - 01/01/13 07:35 PM
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Me neither. I'm rather partial to Sonnox Limiter.
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Jack Ruston
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Re: Waves L2 - the sound of todays generation, really?!!
[Re: sc1460]
#1026635 - 01/01/13 07:42 PM
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Yeah I think he's using the L2 as a catch all for digital brickwall limiting. It gets
applied to mixes after the bus compression, it gets applied in mastering and gets applied
to both stems in the mix and individual sources. People often mix with the limiting in
mind. The use of that type of process, or rather the goal of that process has certainly
affected the way people mix, for example, bass. SO yeah I think it is fair to say that
it's the sound of this generation. J
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J-Storm
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Re: Waves L2 - the sound of todays generation, really?!!
[Re: Jack Ruston]
#1026805 - 03/01/13 08:05 AM
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The L3 Ultra-Maximizer is way better. The L2 is next in line when it comes to Waves
Limiter Products. The L3 has more of a subtle warmth after it pumps through unlike the L2.
But Like you said, you can BARELY TELL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF869LV4esE
I used Cubase
5 and Mastered with L3 and a few other things on this song right here.
Check It
Out!
@hollidaytrax
Edited by j-storm (03/01/13 08:08 AM)
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KayDee
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Re: Waves L2 - the sound of todays generation, really?!!
[Re: sc1460]
#1026871 - 03/01/13 02:58 PM
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When I used the L2, it always gave me some bad transient squash and bad mid range sounding
mixes. When I switched to the Sonnox limiter it was gone. So for me the sound of 2012/2013
is the Sonnox limiter not the L2 
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Re: Waves L2 - the sound of todays generation, really?!!
[Re: sc1460]
#1026959 - 04/01/13 12:57 PM
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They all sound different (and the same one can sound very different), some are extremely
controllable and tweakable. The more you dig in the more you hear their variation and what
the many adjustable parameters are doing. SafeandSound Mastering Music
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