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Dunc off of moos



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Mix Test - feedback required
      #1040206 - 27/03/13 09:27 PM
Hi Guys and Gals,

If anyone has 5 mins (well 3 actually) please spare your thoughts on the first draft of this mix.

http://soundcloud.com/electric-royale/in-on-the-action-mixtest

Cheers,

Dunc

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Dunc off of moos



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Re: Mix Test - feedback required new [Re: Dunc off of moos]
      #1040947 - 02/04/13 07:14 PM
Hello,

A few revisions have been made based on the feedback (not from here obv.)

Thoughts are most welcome - mix still isn't there...
D

http://soundcloud.com/electric-royale/in-on-the-action-mixtest2

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Re: Mix Test - feedback required new [Re: Dunc off of moos]
      #1040951 - 02/04/13 07:44 PM
I'd be inclined to use the extreme filtering a little more sparingly. Yes it helps give the choruses more impact but, for me, that and the parred back rhythm parts leave the verses sounding a bit too anemic. Also, the effect becomes a bit tiresome when used that much.

In fact, there's a distinct lack of a decent punchy Snare to help drive things forward.

Maybe look to supplement the distorted Synth with something in the higher registers. A little arpeggio would be nice. When we do get a part with more of these frequencies, it's a rather organic string sound which is a little at odds with the overall production sound.


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Re: Mix Test - feedback required new [Re: Dunc off of moos]
      #1041192 - 04/04/13 12:12 AM
On a positive note, the low percussion sounds amazing Perhaps could do with a little more in the verses as there's a huge leap in the choruses.

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Re: Mix Test - feedback required new [Re: Dunc off of moos]
      #1041204 - 04/04/13 07:17 AM
Very nicely done!

I agree with the above that the lift from verse to chorus is a bit unsubtle. You can be quite sneaky with dynamics through the sections to still get a lift, but avoid the dynamics sounding so 'forced'.

The main vocal is a bit too clear for its own good. In the verses (especially the first, as it jumps in quite aggressively) it's actually a bit abrasive. I like the crunchy feel of it, but would be nice to hear the tone shift around from section to section.

The kick works really well at the extreme high and low end, though I'd take out some of the upper-mid 'knock' if it were me.

The strings in the repeated section could be much more prominent - let 'em really hit hard!

Beyond that it's pretty good. Personally I'd go for a few more spot effects to pepper up the mix, but that's just me.

HTH!

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Dunc off of moos



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Re: Mix Test - feedback required new [Re: Dunc off of moos]
      #1041274 - 04/04/13 11:51 AM
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the thoughts. The running theme is the dynamic from verse to chorus is a bit too large then I'll try a few of the suggested ideas to thicken out the verses and create a bit of a lift. Maybe peppering of the lower Kick thats in the Chorus to add weight to the pre and I'll try a few snare ideas too.

Elf, not sure what way to go about creating the different vocal tones short of adding or losing the vocal distortion - any ideas?

Cheers again guys, most appreciated
Dunc

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Re: Mix Test - feedback required new [Re: Dunc off of moos]
      #1041290 - 04/04/13 12:52 PM
How about dropping the vocal distortion in the second verse, replacing it with hyper-compression. Or automating to remove the distortion over the course of the verse? Maybe hyper-compress the vocal into the final word, or use a distorted pre-echo into a cleaner vocal sound, or, or...

There are always a million ways to cook these things. It's just about choosing something that conveys what *you* want to say. If you're happy with it the way it then that's fine - for me I'd want more variety, but that's just a matter of artistic opinion.

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Re: Mix Test - feedback required new [Re: Dunc off of moos]
      #1041310 - 04/04/13 01:24 PM
Not much to add to what's been said above... great basic balance, though the vocal sound in the verses is perhaps a bit on the thin side. I think the song/arrangement could arguably do with more development as it goes on, though I'm not sure exactly what it needs -- probably a question of throwing lots of ideas at it and seeing what sticks.

On a pedantic note, there's what sounds like a clicky edit at the end of the second verse (on the word 'lucky').


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Dunc off of moos



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Re: Mix Test - feedback required new [Re: Dunc off of moos]
      #1041325 - 04/04/13 02:06 PM
Choices choices eh? Cheers Elf - I'll try a few ideas to keep it moving.

Thanks Sam, I'll check out the 'click'!

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Re: Mix Test - feedback required new [Re: Dunc off of moos]
      #1041470 - 05/04/13 09:26 AM
Just to add my 2 cents.

Chorus: There is something flaming on the backbeat - snare and kick need to be tighter and snare needs more weight - I'd look for a different sound as the 808ish sounding one does not work for me. Bass sound needs more beef for me could be more solid.

Verse 2 - this needs developing - maybe a 'proper' bass in the 2nd half of it or loose the thin vocal - just needs more interest to maintain the listener (I'm taking subtle stuff here)

LOVE: Hand claps, Backing vocal, general vibe.

COULD BE BETTER: Middle 8 strings - need more work, better sounds/programming?

Verse 3 - Needs s few new elements to carry the interest...be brave and bold....it's all a bit safe

I always like pop productions where there are different things happening in each chorus - I'd try a 'real' sounding hat pattern in the 2nd chorus just to pick things up - lots of tricks like that you can do....

you get me drift! Good sound and could be great..

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Dunc off of moos



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Re: Mix Test - feedback required new [Re: Dunc off of moos]
      #1042082 - 08/04/13 03:37 PM
Cheers Jonny

All, this has been really helpfull - I'll get a revised mix up asap.

D

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