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Grandmasterbird



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Cubase 7 Artist version advice
      #1040468 - 29/03/13 07:59 PM
Hi all,

I'm looking at buying Cubase 7 Artist version for mixdowns, I use another DAW to compose so I would use it strictly for mixing.

Does anyone here use the Artist Version for such a purpose and if so, do you find it adequate for your needs bearing in mind it has a limited track amounts compared to the full version?

I've looked at the comparison chart and I would imagine that 64 audio tracks and 32 group channels would be adequate for most peoples needs (mine included), but I was just curious as to other peoples experiences and if in practice this was indeed the case.

And also is there anything else that a newcomer to Cubase should be aware of when going for the Artist Version as opposed to the full version?

I havnt used Cubase since SX3 and that was some years ago!

Many thanks,

K


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Hoopy Frood



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Re: Cubase 7 Artist version advice new [Re: Grandmasterbird]
      #1040518 - 30/03/13 10:00 AM
Hi there, I'm a current user of Cubase Essential 5, which is the really cut down version from a couple of generations ago and I've just pushed the button on an upgrade to Artist 7 (which will actually represent an increase in the functionality available to me!). It hasn't arrived yet, but I did try the demo for a week or so.

In terms of mixing functionality, you get the new mixer, but it only has one view rather than three. I can't say I found that a big problem, personally. You'll miss out on some of the built-in plugins - whether that's a problem or not depends on your needs, but all the basics are covered. One thing missing in Artist is batch export of tracks (which was the same in Essential 5, and is the only omission which strikes me as a bit mean). This means that if you are exporting stems, you need to do them one at a time. You won't get Variaudio or Timewarp, but that's fair enough as they're headline features of the full version.

I know you're only planning to mix, but I should probably mention that AFAIK, Cubase 7 comes with the full complement of VSTIs. The missing plugins are more around effects.

Hope that helps,

Rich

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Grandmasterbird



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Re: Cubase 7 Artist version advice new [Re: Hoopy Frood]
      #1040596 - 31/03/13 11:11 AM
Quote Hoopy Frood:

Hi there, I'm a current user of Cubase Essential 5, which is the really cut down version from a couple of generations ago and I've just pushed the button on an upgrade to Artist 7 (which will actually represent an increase in the functionality available to me!). It hasn't arrived yet, but I did try the demo for a week or so.

In terms of mixing functionality, you get the new mixer, but it only has one view rather than three. I can't say I found that a big problem, personally. You'll miss out on some of the built-in plugins - whether that's a problem or not depends on your needs, but all the basics are covered. One thing missing in Artist is batch export of tracks (which was the same in Essential 5, and is the only omission which strikes me as a bit mean). This means that if you are exporting stems, you need to do them one at a time. You won't get Variaudio or Timewarp, but that's fair enough as they're headline features of the full version.

I know you're only planning to mix, but I should probably mention that AFAIK, Cubase 7 comes with the full complement of VSTIs. The missing plugins are more around effects.

Hope that helps,

Rich




It does, thanks very much for taking the time to reply.

I'm curious as to what the other mixer views are so will have a look around and see if it's on the Steinberg website somewhere. Hopefully they will also list what plug-ins are missing, if they are the kind of thing that would come in very handy then that might sway things.

The batch stems function shouldnt pose too much of an issue as I probably would have exported everything as audio prior to loading it all up in Cubase for mixing. Unless I'm misunderstanding what is meant by stems or the potential usefulness of that function!

Thanks again,

K


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Hoopy Frood



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Re: Cubase 7 Artist version advice new [Re: Grandmasterbird]
      #1040743 - 01/04/13 10:54 AM
As I understand it, the three mixer views allow you to simply switch between three mixer configurations (for example one that shows all your group tracks, one that shows only FX returns etc). Im sure this makes life easier, but not having had it before, i dont miss it! Have a look at the SOS Cubase 7 review... there's a lot of info on the new mixing facilities, and what you get (and don't get) in Artist. There's also an article on using the new mixer in the latest issue - much of the advice is pertinent to Artist as well.

There's a detailed feature comparison PDF here:

http://www.steinberg.net/fileadmin/files/PRODUCTS/Cubase/Gen...

ETA: Oh, and that's what I meant by batch export, yes - exporting renders of individual (or groups) of tracks for use in other programmes as separate files but in one go. Essential 5 only lets you export a full stereo mix, or one track at a time, and I think Artist 7 is the same. As you say though, this won't be an issue if you're not exporting out of Cubase.

Just out of interest, which DAW are you using for recording / production, and why don't you want to mix in it?

All the best,

Rich

Edited by Hoopy Frood (01/04/13 11:00 AM)


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Grandmasterbird



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Re: Cubase 7 Artist version advice new [Re: Hoopy Frood]
      #1040933 - 02/04/13 04:50 PM
Quote Hoopy Frood:

As I understand it, the three mixer views allow you to simply switch between three mixer configurations (for example one that shows all your group tracks, one that shows only FX returns etc). Im sure this makes life easier, but not having had it before, i dont miss it! Have a look at the SOS Cubase 7 review... there's a lot of info on the new mixing facilities, and what you get (and don't get) in Artist. There's also an article on using the new mixer in the latest issue - much of the advice is pertinent to Artist as well.

There's a detailed feature comparison PDF here:

http://www.steinberg.net/fileadmin/files/PRODUCTS/Cubase/Gen...

ETA: Oh, and that's what I meant by batch export, yes - exporting renders of individual (or groups) of tracks for use in other programmes as separate files but in one go. Essential 5 only lets you export a full stereo mix, or one track at a time, and I think Artist 7 is the same. As you say though, this won't be an issue if you're not exporting out of Cubase.

Just out of interest, which DAW are you using for recording / production, and why don't you want to mix in it?

All the best,

Rich




Thanks will check those out.

I'm using Ableton Live 8. It's brilliant for writing, it just feels a bit counter intuitive when it comes to doing mixdowns so thats why I was looking at Cubase 7.

Having watched a friend working on Cubase it appears to be more geared up for that kind of thing. That may well be completely incorrect in some peoples eyes but to me at least it seemed more logical when doing relatively simple things like creating groups, buses, setting up fx sends etc... I like the mixer setup plus the bundled plug ins seem to be good.

Horses for courses I suppose!

K


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Re: Cubase 7 Artist version advice new [Re: Grandmasterbird]
      #1040987 - 03/04/13 06:51 AM
If you have a Steinberg e-licencer, there's a demo you can download.

I'm still waiting for my copy of Cubase 7 Artist to arrive in the post!

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