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OD23
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How's my mix?
      #1059155 - 25/07/13 09:50 AM
I've had some great constructive feedback here before so just wondered if anyone fancies taking a listen to my latest mix:

Julia

Any thoughts on arrangement, instrument selection, performance and mixing gratefully received...

Thank you!

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Phil O
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Re: How's my mix? new [Re: OD23]
      #1059159 - 25/07/13 10:24 AM

Overall mix is a bit dry for my taste and the vocal doesn't sound like it occupies the same space as the instrumentation. Elements of the latter sound 'boxy' possibly due to the room.

Dynamically, it feels quite 'samey' throughout. I'd give consideration to variation in tempo and more of a build and progression.

Just my 2c mate.


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OD23
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Re: How's my mix? new [Re: Phil O]
      #1059296 - 26/07/13 09:10 AM
Thanks for the input Phil. It is quite a dry mix I suppose, I didn't want a longer or more present reverb as there's a lot going on, but then it's all quite close mic'd so it probably is a bit too up-front. I wish I understood how to use delay more to build depth in the mix... Also some of the instruments probably do sound boxy due to the room I record in, if I could afford it I'd buy the new Zynaptiq plugins (unfilter/unveil) to try and sort that out. Maybe some corrective eq would work. Will think about the dynamics too, although I'm not sure tempo variations would work.

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Re: How's my mix? new [Re: OD23]
      #1059432 - 26/07/13 10:46 PM
I like the tune.

What a weird ending. The tune peaks at around 2:19 and should have ended soon after. Instead you ended into weirdness? Your tune, your call.

Overall kind of a thick arrangement. The voice gets buried. This may be a mixing thing. Hard to hear. Its a subtle melody with the subtle pitch changes from minor to major on the flow of the line, and I'd like to hear it.

You are really good at background vocal arrangements.


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Re: How's my mix? new [Re: DC-Choppah]
      #1059472 - 27/07/13 11:12 AM
Cool tune - good ideas needs producing properly - IMHO - what's there is all 80% - timing and tuning issues stacked up as the arrangement builds..sounds like a good demo not the finished product. I Agree the long ending is unnecessary - as is the first pickup beat - all things that an independent pair of ears would have sorted from the get go.

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OD23
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Re: How's my mix? new [Re: OD23]
      #1059808 - 29/07/13 11:09 PM
Thanks for the feedback - I should have said in my first post that there are still a few rough edges, the start and ending being two (although to be honest I do quite like order dissolving into chaos so the ending suits me...). The voice getting buried is definitely a point, but it's hard to think what to do as the melody starts low then lifts in the bridge and chorus. Thanks DC Choppah for the comment about backing vox, not something I'd previously thought much about - I think those arrangements are an outlet for my frustrated desire to create full instrumental arrangements in my music, which I have neither the scoring skills nor resources to do properly (VSTs are no substitute).

Jonnypopsical - I think it sounds like a demo because it basically is - I'm at the limit of what I can achieve in my room with my instruments, equipment and engineering skills. I could replace the real piano with a VST if that's where you're hearing tuning issues, but I hate using fake pianos!

I think I've done pretty well with other songs that are less demanding but I'm not sure I'm able to do any better with this one... I was planning to self-release it with a couple of other songs as an EP but with the comments here I'm not so sure. Thing is I don't know what else to do with it, as I don't have a producer or any label around me to help create an improved version. Maybe I just have to accept that as an independent musician this is the sound I have with all its flaws and release anyway...

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Re: How's my mix? new [Re: OD23]
      #1059819 - 30/07/13 03:13 AM
Great track. Love the ending but I'm weird.
There's a snare or noisy drum that comes in on the second chorus that sounds a bit washy or something, up until that point I had forgotten I was supposed to be listening to the mix and just enjoying the track (always a good sign).
The middle eight needs tightening up, it's a bit sloppy, but I like what you're going for.
Do you have any vocal ad libs or outtakes that you could weave into the crazy ending to make it a bit more ... hmmm, inviting?

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Re: How's my mix? new [Re: OD23]
      #1059826 - 30/07/13 06:24 AM
Great idea that just needs a producer's touch.

Personally I'd lose the insistent 'dance' kick and let the song bathe in it's late 60s feel a little more.

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Re: How's my mix? new [Re: OD23]
      #1077293 - 03/12/13 03:36 PM
I like this. I'm not sure about the kick or the drums when they come in, I dislike the piano sweeps. I'd say the kick should be 1,3 instead of 1,2,3,4 - the main should either come in like a kit should or just leave it out... I like the ending, the crazy acoustic guitar might be overkill though...


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