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M-Loch!



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After a small mixer.
      #1090776 - 26/02/14 12:57 PM
Hi guys,

Im after a very small (8 ch) mixer with either a direct out on each channel or an insert on each channel. Must have 2 post aux sends per channel also.

Not being lazy, im looking around but wondering if anyone knew of hand.

Mackie are fine, I like the 1202 but not many inserts.


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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: M-Loch!]
      #1090788 - 26/02/14 02:11 PM
More channels than you suggest but the Soundcraft Spirit SX has d/o (switchable pre/post EQ) and inserts on 12 channels if memory serves and can probably be bought pretty cheap second hand now.

"Not being lazy" - ha! When I do this I think it's incredibly lazy. I still do it though.

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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: M-Loch!]
      #1090796 - 26/02/14 02:29 PM
Soundcraft EPM8?

Inserts on all 8 mic inputs; 2 auxes, both configurable pre-post.

Soundcraft M8 would also fit the bill - attractively priced now and with the advantage of 100mm faders.

Second-hand I'd probably also consider the Mackie VLZ Pros and later. Excellent mic pres in those! Make sure you get one that's not had a hard life though!

... and if you can get one in-budget and spec the A&H ZED series are very good...

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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: M-Loch!]
      #1090800 - 26/02/14 02:57 PM
If a rackmounting mixer would fit the bill then something like the Ashly MX508 might suit? Has inserts on every channel and two switchable auxes.


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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: Sam Inglis]
      #1090871 - 26/02/14 07:59 PM
I have the smaller cousin of the Ashly MX508 and it's a lovely bit of kit. Beware the preamps on older Soundcraft desks such as the SX, they are inferior to those found on most modern desks. (A general but largely true statement)

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M-Loch!



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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: M-Loch!]
      #1090875 - 26/02/14 08:24 PM
Hi guys,

Thanks for the replies. Im thinking I may now be brave and forego the modern day demand for multi track recording and just mix to stereo warts and all. At least this way I may actually finnish something.

So thinking smaller. Any alternatives to Mackie 1202? (Sorry to change question slightly after you all took time to answer.)


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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: Bob Bickerton]
      #1090897 - 26/02/14 10:19 PM
Quote Bob Bickerton:

Beware the preamps on older Soundcraft desks such as the SX, they are inferior to those found on most modern desks. (A general but largely true statement)

Bob




Fair comment but still a great way to hook up an 8 track recorder and perfectly acceptable for plenty of jobs. Often the preamps are not the weakest link in the chain.

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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: M-Loch!]
      #1090898 - 26/02/14 10:33 PM
Depends how old you get... I use a Soundcraft 200SR for live shows and it sounds great -- very decent preamps and lots of headroom. Not by any stretch of the imagination 'small', though.


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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: Sam Inglis]
      #1090952 - 27/02/14 10:09 AM
The 200 was a real Soundcraft whereas (as I understand it) the smaller budget models were a result of Soundcraft's acquisition of Seck who were one of the first mixer manufacturers to put everything on a single horizontal circuit board.

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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: M-Loch!]
      #1090963 - 27/02/14 10:37 AM
Soundcraft now state explicitly that their 'budget' mixers such as the EPM and MPM use the same mic preamp - the GB30 - as their higher-end analogue consoles.


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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: James Perrett]
      #1090991 - 27/02/14 11:48 AM
Quote James Perrett:

The 200 was a real Soundcraft whereas (as I understand it) the smaller budget models were a result of Soundcraft's acquisition of Seck who were one of the first mixer manufacturers to put everything on a single horizontal circuit board.




I thought there was something familiar about the SX. That explains a lot, cheers J.

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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: M-Loch!]
      #1091262 - 28/02/14 10:09 PM
Sound craft looks good but large for what it does as opposed the smaller offerings from mackie.

Anything mackie 12 or 1402 sized that can output each channel one way or another. Must be somewhere. Mind I have looked for a week now and nothing. Even via d sub would do me.


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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: M-Loch!]
      #1091342 - 01/03/14 02:57 PM
Quote M-Loch!:

Hi guys,

Im after a very small (8 ch) mixer with either a direct out on each channel or an insert on each channel. Must have 2 post aux sends per channel also.

Not being lazy, im looking around but wondering if anyone knew of hand.

Mackie are fine, I like the 1202 but not many inserts.




If Mackies are fine, 1642 has 8 outs. 1604 has 16 outs.


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M-Loch!



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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: M-Loch!]
      #1091521 - 02/03/14 08:22 PM
Hi guys, thanks for all of the replays.

Updating to thank for taking the time to help.

I found out the original Mackie Onyx 1202 (not the 1202i) Has D sub outs enabling an direct out for each channel. Why they dropped this feature is beyond me for the 'I' model.

So, I had to ge second hand. Its about twice the size of the standard 1202 VLZ3 or 4 what is bizarre. I mean why needs the extra space I do not know.

So, thanks to all who helped. And hopefully info for others in the future.

All the best, M-Loch!


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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: M-Loch!]
      #1091533 - 02/03/14 08:46 PM
Sorry, I was looking for the whisky thread. I must be in the wrong place.

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Re: After a small mixer. new [Re: M-Loch!]
      #1091534 - 02/03/14 08:54 PM
haha. Dafty


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