saltybrian
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being realistic about all this gear buying carry on....
#987910 - 16/05/12 11:30 PM
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Can anyone advise me if it is justifiable to spend a lot of money on active nearfield
monitors that will likely be moved around frequently, and used mostly in untreated rooms?
In the first instance they will def only see occasional use, so I'm trying to ascertain
what is really necessary.
Also, and qualified by my first question; are
there units which might better suit acoustic instruments? I often read that this or that
is good for x or y, but have never seen mention of which monitor might be best employed
for mixing fiddles / mandolins / acoustic guitar etc. It would be fine if whatever I end
up with could handle the occasional session with drumkit and bass etc too.
I
can't realistically try stuff out without a 500 mile round trip either, so recommendations
welcome. I keep looking back at the little Adam A3x but must admit this is in part at
least a cosmetic attraction.
Thanks for any help.
Brian
Edited by saltybrian (16/05/12 11:31 PM)
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Bob Bickerton
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Re: being realistic about all this gear buying carry on....
[Re: saltybrian]
#987917 - 17/05/12 01:06 AM
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The PMC TB2s are stunning for acoustic instruments and their smaller siblings the DB
series may be ideal for your purposes.
Check out the SOS reviews.
Bob
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John Willett
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Re: being realistic about all this gear buying carry on....
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#987926 - 17/05/12 06:45 AM
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Quote saltybrian:
Can anyone
advise me if it is justifiable to spend a lot of money on active nearfield monitors that
will likely be moved around frequently, and used mostly in untreated rooms? In the first
instance they will def only see occasional use, so I'm trying to ascertain what is really
necessary.
Also, and qualified by my first question; are there units which
might better suit acoustic instruments? I often read that this or that is good for x or y,
but have never seen mention of which monitor might be best employed for mixing fiddles /
mandolins / acoustic guitar etc. It would be fine if whatever I end up with could handle
the occasional session with drumkit and bass etc too.
I can't realistically
try stuff out without a 500 mile round trip either, so recommendations welcome. I keep
looking back at the little Adam A3x but must admit this is in part at least a cosmetic
attraction.
Simple
answer - yes - I now use the ME Geithain RL906 for this use and there is both an optional
flight case or tough padded bag for carrying them around (having said that, I also
ended up buying the company that distributes them in the UK).
The Neumann
KH120 are also suitable for this use (I used to use the K+H O110D) and, again, there is a
flight case or padded carrying bag available.
Either of the above would be
well suitable for your purpose - I use them for acoustic instruments for classical music
recording - though they are both neutral monitors and suitable for a wide range of music
genres.
PMC are also on my top-5 list of monitors to be trusted (ATC,
Geithain, Harbeth, Neumann/K+H and PMC). I found the DB1 slightly coloured (shows up in
speech) which is why I bought the O110D several years back, though the TB2 are better.
But I don't think they do bags or cases as standard and you would have to have custom
cases made if you go this route.
Although I don't personally like them very
much, Genelec also do padded bags for their monitors.
-------------------- John - Sound-Link ProAudio
President - Federation Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons
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Zukan
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Re: being realistic about all this gear buying carry on....
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#987928 - 17/05/12 07:06 AM
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John, how did you get on with the Geithain RL906? Had my eye on them for a
while....
-------------------- Samplecraze
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Richie Royale
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Re: being realistic about all this gear buying carry on....
[Re: John Willett]
#987932 - 17/05/12 07:37 AM
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Quote John Willett:
(having
said that, I also ended up buying the company that distributes them in the UK).

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ConcertinaChap
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Re: being realistic about all this gear buying carry on....
[Re: saltybrian]
#987937 - 17/05/12 08:21 AM
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Quote saltybrian:
Can anyone
advise me if it is justifiable to spend a lot of money on active nearfield monitors that
will likely be moved around frequently, and used mostly in untreated rooms?
No-one's actually answered this point
as such so I'll have a go. AIUI nearfield monitors are best for this sort of environment
because being closer to you the sound is less affected by the room than other monitor
types. So yes, nearfield monitors are what you want and active means you won't have to
bother with moving an amp as well.
I haven't a wide range of experience of
monitors but all my recording is of acoustic instruments and I've been very happy with my
Genelec 8030a's. I might have been just as happy with something else, but there it is.
CC
-------------------- Put the fun back into dysfunctional.
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James Perrett
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Re: being realistic about all this gear buying carry on....
[Re: saltybrian]
#987947 - 17/05/12 09:04 AM
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I'd agree that it is worth spending the money on decent monitors - they'll usually outlast
most other bits of kit in the studio if you go for something good to start with. I'm a fan
of older designs so I'm still using a pair of passive KEF LS3/5a's - there are other newer
designs that are supposed to be better but the LS3/5a's still have a devoted following. James.
-------------------- JRP Music - Audio Mastering and Restoration.
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Tartaruga
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Re: being realistic about all this gear buying carry on....
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#988022 - 17/05/12 04:33 PM
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Hi I would seriously look for a pair of ‘Genelec’ 8020A (bi-amp) speakers(size
and sound wise).Even better if you can find previous version,second hand...
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Hugh Robjohns
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Re: being realistic about all this gear buying carry on....
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#988030 - 17/05/12 05:36 PM
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If it's your only reference point on location then the monitors have to be good and
trustworthy. Near fields are the way to go, but simple instant acoustic treatment in the
form of duvets suspended from cheap lighting stands are worth thinking about too.
I use either PMC db1s or tb2s on location, depending on the space in the car and the
size of room, but if I was looking for something new I'd go with the Neumann kh120
monitors. Very compact but superb sound accuracy and surprising bass extension and
volume.
I reviewed them in the mag recently.
There are lots of
possible contenders depending on budget, of course, but buying well means you won't need
to upgrade.
H
-------------------- Technical Editor, Sound On Sound
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saltybrian
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Re: being realistic about all this gear buying carry on....
[Re: saltybrian]
#988261 - 18/05/12 04:43 PM
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Thank you all for the helpful input. as someone who's invested heavily in instruments and
associated gear over the years, the idea of spending now to save later rings true indeed.
I was looking at the A3x from Adam and others in that price range - is it
naive to think I might get anything that would do a reasonable job on primarily acoustic
music for that kind of money?
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saltybrian
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Re: being realistic about all this gear buying carry on....
[Re: saltybrian]
#988385 - 19/05/12 03:40 PM
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Thanks for all the pointers. A lot of the suggestions were a tad beyond what I was
comfortable spending, so I've gone for some Focal cms 40s. Time to stop shopping and get
working
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