Persuazion
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Any tips on transporting your cables on location?
#988769 - 21/05/12 05:51 PM
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Just thinking of the best way to transport a bunch of XLRs when we're out on location
jobs. Thought some of you bright sparks will have some handy tips!
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lotek
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Re: Any tips on transporting your cables on location?
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#988772 - 21/05/12 05:58 PM
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Persuazion
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Re: Any tips on transporting your cables on location?
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#988775 - 21/05/12 06:03 PM
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Mike Stranks
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Re: Any tips on transporting your cables on location?
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#988784 - 21/05/12 06:24 PM
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I have several of THESE I just keep cables of the same length joined
together on the same drum. Just peel them off as needed. A plus point is that
after a gig it's very easy for any 'willing volunteers' to wind them back onto the
drum. (From what I've seen this is the standard method of storage with BBC
Local Radio engineers on Outside Broadcasts.) HTH. Mike
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Hugh Robjohns
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Re: Any tips on transporting your cables on location?
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#988786 - 21/05/12 06:28 PM
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There are two schools of thought.
One is to coil the cables individually in
the approved over-under manner, plugging the XLRs together and tieing the coils with an
old bootlace, velcro, (residue-free) tape or whatever, and then storing in a large
box.
The other is to store them on a cable drum, connected end-to-end to form
one long cable.
I much prefer the second option, and use three separate cable
drums containing 5m, 10m and 20m cables respectively. I fitted a chassis male XLR to the
side plate and wired that to a short tail with a female cable socket exiting from the
centre core of the reel. This acts as the initial mating connection. With all the cables
joined and wound on to the drum it then becomes possible to check the entire lot with a
cable tester in one go to confirm everything is good to go. I wind the cables with the
female end out so that the drum can be placed near the stage box and the cables pulled out
across the stage to where they are needed.
A garden hose reel is a cheaper
alternative, of course, but not quite as practical in some cases.
Hugh
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Persuazion
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Re: Any tips on transporting your cables on location?
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#988829 - 21/05/12 11:42 PM
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RegressiveRock
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Re: Any tips on transporting your cables on location?
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#988834 - 22/05/12 12:00 AM
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Quote Hugh Robjohns:
There are
two schools of thought.
One is to coil the cables individually in the
approved over-under manner, plugging the XLRs together and tieing the coils with an old
bootlace, velcro, (residue-free) tape or whatever, and then storing in a large box.
The other is to store them on a cable drum, connected end-to-end to form one long
cable.
I much prefer the second option, and use three separate cable drums
containing 5m, 10m and 20m cables respectively. I fitted a chassis male XLR to the side
plate and wired that to a short tail with a female cable socket exiting from the centre
core of the reel. This acts as the initial mating connection. With all the cables joined
and wound on to the drum it then becomes possible to check the entire lot with a cable
tester in one go to confirm everything is good to go. I winde the cables with the female
end out so that the drum is placed by the stage box and the cables pulled out across the
stage to where they are needed.
A garden hose reel is a cheaper alternative,
of course, but not quite as practical in some cases.
Hugh
Interesting, I do not have to regularly
transport cables anymore, but when I used to (and do) I coil them up individually and put
them into large ziplock baggies and write the length of the cable on the baggie with
permanent marker. In that way, if a cable starts to unravel for any reason, it has nowhere
to go.
Reg
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Hugh Robjohns
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Re: Any tips on transporting your cables on location?
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#988865 - 22/05/12 08:37 AM
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I'm sure that approach works, but it must be more time-consuming and fiddly both to rig
and de-rig. Using colour-coded tapes or ties to secure the cable coils is just
as effective a way of identifying cable lengths, or coloured cable glands on the XLR
cables. I actually use coloured glands on the shorter cables, and a different
cable type on the longer ones, so it is easy for 'helpers' to recognise which cables
belong on which reels in my rigs and derigs!  hugh
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Re: Any tips on transporting your cables on location?
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#988881 - 22/05/12 09:11 AM
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I find the separate ziplock bag per cable approach works rather well! I use clear bags,
and no labels — I can tell by looking at it if it's one of my long or short cables
(they're mostly one of two sizes anyway). Takes very little time to coil them up, once
you're used to getting the coils the right size to fill the bag, and unpacking them when
you're rigging is a doddle too.
The cables-on-a-drum idea is good for testing
loads of cables at once though...
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Guy Johnson
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Re: Any tips on transporting your cables on location?
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#988885 - 22/05/12 09:26 AM
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You put in cables instead of groceries.
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Nathan
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Re: Any tips on transporting your cables on location?
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#989553 - 25/05/12 12:34 PM
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Heh I had to laugh at that, Guy! I wrap the in twist-free coils , fasten them with a chunk
of LX (insulation) tape and bung them in a tray not unlike that suggesed or a Eurobox.
I'm using XLR leads for live performance events mostly, and I find the stage
abuse, the beer and the "crew help" bad wrapping, to be by far the most significant
factors in degrading cable integrity. Hugh's reels are a very good idea, but would take me
forever to wrap, would give me limited flexibility over how many of each size I take,
would take up too much weight and space in the van...
From a working XLR user
-LX tape and a box are good enough, small velcro ties if you hate tape and don't do enough
real work to notice the tape gunk over all the beer  (I do
actually wash my XLRs every month or so, dispicable little musos)
Buy a few Euroboxes and they'll last you years.
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Edited by Nathan (25/05/12 01:11 PM)
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