any one tell me how to achive that type of sound
im using an carlsbro amp with a g2 zoom
thanks

You need a Les Paul and a tube based distorsion, otherwise you will never get that creamy sound. I have tried to get that sound too, but can't get the 100% saturated tube sound unless using a real tube preamp/amp and these are expensive. No cheap solid-state floor processor will ever come close to that sound. You also need to play it very loud to drive the last stage of the amp into saturation, something that your neighbours aren't going to like for sure.

Ive never heard of "garry moor".

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Neither have I but I would say that, whoever he is, his playing surely contributes at least as much to his sound as the kit he uses.

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Live he uses 3 identical Marshall heads. 2 with marshall 4x12's and one with a Fender 2x12.

Each amp has different settings and he uses a footswitch to select different combinations. But, essentially, he is running clean, cruch, and lead Marshall tones.

Hope that helps.

Andy

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yeah, yeah, it's gary moore. bfd. anyway, his last couple of albums have been *brilliant*. 'blues for greenie' and 'go my way' i particularly like. i'd suggest searching vintage guitar or guitar player for a recent interview. should have a gear list. i do know his ax: peter green's old les paul. talk about a pedigree...

d

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i do know his ax: peter green's old les paul. talk about a pedigree...d

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Or rather you did know it as he sold it recently (also mentioned in another recent thread). However, it was used a lot on his blues records up to now.

I'm sure Gary Moore uses a Zoom G2.

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incidentally, i remember reading somewhere that gary moor along with mark knopfler are very unusual in the fact that they are left handed but play right handed. can any one confirm?

Definintely read that about "The Knopf" - not sure about gerry muir.

Bloody traitors - if yer a southpaw, play like a southpaw! I do!

Mind you, all the bloody aggro I have to go through to get a decent guitar...

I did struggle with the lefty/righty thing for a while - I can distinctly remember whiling away a very boring English lesson at school, playing lefty and righty air guitar under the desk, trying to figure out which felt more comfortable!

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I'm sure it was Mark Knopler who said that they were made to play right handed as it was thought it would give them a head start (i.e. stronger hand fretting).

Seems to have worked if it was Mark K!

As for Gary Moore, volume and gain play a big part in his tone, especially heard on live recordings.

What guitar are you using for this?? If you have a LP style you should get close using the modelling on the G2, you might need to run into the amp's FX return (if it has one) to stop the Carlsboro preamp colouring the G2.

Hewesy

He normally uses a fairly basic set-up, normally an Ibanez Tubescreamer (TS-808 or TS-9) into a cranked up valve Marshall. If you have a tubescreamer preset on the zoom and can get the Carlsbro sounding like a Marshall, you'll be getting there. Touch of reverb (and delay for some numbers) and you'l be close. Humbucker equiped guitar, preferably a LP type and the rest is down to technique.

Wasn;t there an article of Garrie More a few years back in The Guitar Magazine when he was pulling his funny faces and playing da blooz maaaaaannn..
I am positive the picture I saw was the Peter Green out of phase Les Paul, a JTM45 with a distortion pedal to bump the input - amp head in the control room - speakers getting fried in the tracking room

Eye red that Gairie Moar artikel. It wuz brylyant!

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Any Bassman-derived amp (JTM45, Soldano, etc) pushed by a Tubescreamer for the edgy stuff, or the same type of amp pushed by a Guv'nor Mk1 pedal for the legato stuff (like Still Got the Blues). He also uses an old Fender amp (Showman?) sometimes.

Thing is that he's a dab hand at using the guitar's Volume pots to get a *lot* of intermediate overdrive tones out of the same setup.

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I do that too...
It does seem to make sense using my most agile hand for fretting, and the range of guitars is so much better

hi wonky,

you're right. i had tuned out (so to speak) the thread on the gary moore les paul from andy before you posted that detail. just went and checked it out 'cause i figured that was the thread you referred to. do you know who bought it and for how much?

cheers,

d

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Phil Winfield of Maverick Music in the USA (Greeny LP on Maverick web site) and no-one's saying how much changed hands

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cheers, loverocker! btw, there's a killer 6 minute video of gm and phil linott on the website. man, what a tone....

d

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Sorry to p*ss on the Parade...

But I hate Gary Moore and his dodgy blues albums...

They make my skin crawl, his phrasing, tone and technique don't speak blues to me in the slightest.

I heard his first two blues albums when they came out and cringed.

I'm sorry but I just don't get where he is coming from or why he suddenly gained recognition for these works.

I know he has followed them up in more recent years with further albums, but there is no way I would listen to them.

I'll stick to SRV, Johnny Winter and Roy Buchanan if I want a modern slant on the Blues.

Gary Moore = Pub Rock Band to my ears.

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while i fervently disagree with much of what you said, i have to admit to having a bootleg copy of Gary Moore playing live in a Pub.,

and given the other names involved in that ( Bono, Van Morrison, all surviving ex-Lizzy members, and a bunch of other Irish music stars...... ) ..., i reckon he accounted more than well for himself......




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Regards


Andrew

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Two raindrops...
ALthough I did see a fat bloated Mick Taylor play a metre squared karoeke stage in Las Palmas once - embarassing

I saw ALbert Collins blow away most of the pretenders at the Crystal Palace Bowl in the early 90s

Although I must admit to just a passing admiration of Marc Ford

hey stonehouse,

i can't blame you for having a dissenting opinion, even if i disagree with it ;-). usually, most of us sit on it 'cause we figure, live and let live, but sometimes ya just gotta spill it. sort of like that scene in 'animal house' where john belushi walks past a guy playing 'i gave my love a flower' on acoustic guitar and just grabs the guitar, smashes it, and, as he departs, says 'sorry'.

but since you openned that vein, let me say that i f*&king *hate* toto (see other thread for many posts praising them). slick, overproduced wankers who represent everything that's wrong w/t los angeles music scene/sound. they're the musical equivalent of some futuristic race of villains from a 'doctor who' episode who exist on a special diet of predigested pablum 'cause they can't process real food. ... thanks, i feel better now.

d

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sorry....

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"Patsy had the drug tolerance of Keith Richards and the moral rectitude of Brian Jones." - Dr. Walter Bishop, "Fringe"

and i despise mike oldfield's guitar sound ........

especially that moonlight shadow tone... or rather, atone ,

theres puns in there for the making, but i really cannot be arsed,

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many thanks every one
personally i think hes great and his music very easy to copy 4 a beginner such as myself

Which tone in 'Moonlight Shadow' Max? There's the clean Knopfleresque one and then it moves on to the more distorted sound (or do you hate both equally?).

I must admit to having a lot of Gary Moore records/CDs even though I don't like all the stuff he's done by a long way. But the moments where he gets it right make more than make up for the ones where he gets it wrong. As much as he tries, he never hits the blues in a traditional way - there's always a bit too much rock in it. But then he does the blues his way and others do it their way - such as Robben Ford who does the blues in a more jazzy way (which is very clever but does nothing for me personally).

I first came across Mr Moore when he was playing in Colosseum II. He did some brilliant stuff then - even if he admits he didn't actually know what he was playing. Some of his rocky stuff was really good (especaily the G-Force album). He's always suffered from not having a great singing voice (or a photogenic mug) which I think has held him back in the popularity stakes.

Toto - I had the first two albums (bought from the bargain bin) which were very accomplished American AOR and made sense in the musical scene at the time but didn't have much staying power. To me it was far more 'grown-up' music than that say from Styx or Kansas (citing contemporary US bands) and technically very acomplished indeed. Bit it wasn't heart music. Steve Lukather was a fairly big influence on me at the time - I learnt to play all the same notes he did (A, A#, B etc. ). Didn't like 'Rosanna' and ignored them after that.

There are certain bands and music that are 'of their time', which suited that particular year or scene but even just a few years later the music seems banal or turgid or just plain crap.

Music and taste is always personal. From my experience of initially hating certain types of music to then playing that same music in a band for 12 years I know it always pays to keep an open mind. If you don't like it, then fine but don't put people down for doing so. You may find your foot tapping along to it in 20 years time!

Re: Dennis Moore

...I happen to know that this is the Lupin Express...

I just don't get Mr Moore playing Blues.....

Rock yep sure I can hear that, he Rocks!!!

Blues he Sucks!

I can't hear his pain, soul or mortality anywhere in his Blues playing.

Oh and Rory.... Now theres an Irishman who had soul and phrasing R.I.P.

He was AWESOME in the true sense of the word (not the Yank slang awesome)

Blues you either got it or you rock on.......

Yeah, I still think he was at his best with Collusium II.

Awesome albums.

Andy

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Ditto

i love gm's playing w/ colosseum II, too. btw, does anyone know whatever became of james litherland, the original colosseum's guitarist? i loved his playing on the early lps. the glory days of prog rock!

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But then he does the blues his way and others do it their way - such as Robben Ford who does the blues in a more jazzy way (which is very clever but does nothing for me personally).

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Yeah I have to say I love players who do play Bebop inspired stuff with more of a rock/elec blues tone especially Larry Carlton, Robben Ford, Dave Grissom - checkout http://www.davidgrissom.com/

Also love Mike Stern too.....hopefully I'll get to see him at Ronnie Scott's in July.

Pabs

Ahem, back to the original thread...

'Tone Up!' in June's issue of Guitarist features Gary Moore; the settings they advocate for that GM sound are:

Marshall overdrive channel
Gain 4
Volume 4
Bass 10
Middle 8
Treble 0
Reverb 0

You should be using something with humbuckers, preferably a Les Paul and use the guitar's volume pot to mess with the tone. I haven't tried it because I'm stuck in a f*cking desert, however, Tone Up are usually fairly close.

A.

Bear in mind I am not a real fan of heavily overdriven sounds in the first place, but yes. Gary Moore or however he spells it I regard as being immensely over-rated. Pulling a sustained note over a couple of bars is not my idea of blues power or soulful playing. Mike Oldfield again is sort of generally naff, but then I don`t think he has ever claimed to be a virtuoso guitar player. Wish he could get a bit more expression into his twanging though.

Personally I can forgive dud tone and just about anything else, so long as I get the feeling that the guy playing has put himself into the playing and that self is worth listening to. So many players nowadays seem to rely on a stock set of trademark licks to substitute for any thought about what they are playing.

The Gary Moore "Can of Worms" has been reopened......

lol

He Rocks,

He Rolls,

and sometimes he just sucks?

lol

I reckon he should stick to rockin' and leave the blues alone.

There was a great review, ages ago, forget where, that went something like

"Gary Moore has still got the blues for you...


... and he says he'll be in all night Thursday if you wanna drop round and pick them up"

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