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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: Kwaidan]
      #847787 - 20/07/10 07:35 AM
Quote Kwaidan:

Other Notable Films with electronic music in them -

Dark Star (mainly VCS3), Assault on Precinct 13, Halloween I, II & III, Escape From New York, The Fog Music by John Carpenter



@RichieRoyale - Pete Namlook sampled nearly the entire Black Hole movie on his Ltd Release Namlook VII: Subharmonic Interference.




John Carpenter's soundtracks are fantastic. Ennio Morricone's take on John's work on the The Thing is also very good.

I'll have a look out for the Namlook release.

Speaking of being heavily sampled, I can't belive I forgot to mention PREDATOR! Sampled by FSOL, but the sound design of "Predator POV" is a classic; the snarls, the sampling and pitching; it all adds up to some great sound design.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #847814 - 20/07/10 09:20 AM
Quote AuralSerenity:


The Andromeda Strain (1971)? Wow, never knew about it. Is it good for its sound? I've only seen The Andromeda Strain (2008) and that was a mini-series, and this one, for its sound effect, was unanimously voted as a great disaster among my friends. If 1971 one is really good for sound Fx then would watch it soon.





Yeh, just to clarify, I have not suggested this for it's sound effects per se, but for it's innovative use of electronic instruments (possibly home made ones) to make a sound track that perfectly fits the uncomfortable, claustrophobic and threatening vibe of the film.

Mood music, the likes of which I had never heard before.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gnarl]
      #847822 - 20/07/10 09:36 AM
Quote gnarl:

Quote AuralSerenity:


The Andromeda Strain (1971)? Wow, never knew about it. Is it good for its sound? I've only seen The Andromeda Strain (2008) and that was a mini-series, and this one, for its sound effect, was unanimously voted as a great disaster among my friends. If 1971 one is really good for sound Fx then would watch it soon.





Yeh, just to clarify, I have not suggested this for it's sound effects per se, but for it's innovative use of electronic instruments (possibly home made ones) to make a sound track that perfectly fits the uncomfortable, claustrophobic and threatening vibe of the film.

Mood music, the likes of which I had never heard before.

Hope this helps




The Andromeda Strain is a great film. Nice use of multi angles at the beginning. I can't recall the music/sounds, but it's a good film!

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: Richie Royale]
      #847840 - 20/07/10 11:30 AM
Not necessarily pertaining to music only, but there's some serious sound design going on in Pixar's Wall-E.

The Wall-E 2 disc edition comes out with a little documentary on the sound design and how they did some of it, which was very good as well.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #847845 - 20/07/10 11:59 AM
I think some of the sounds/effects in Terminator Salvation are fantastic.

There's a handful of interesting bits about the sound design in this video.


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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: DuncanH]
      #847849 - 20/07/10 12:15 PM
Quote DuncanH:

This features many musical scenes including a fantastic trip sequence where Jagger plays on a massive Moog modular(presumably his as he was one of the first few people to get one)



The Stones bought one because the success of Walter/Wendy's SOB had made Moogs the hip things to have.

Not surprisingly, they didn't get on with it and it had no place in their stuff...

So Tangerine Dream bought it from them!

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #848023 - 21/07/10 09:33 AM
Quote AuralSerenity:


Well havent seen Dark Star yet. Almost all the remaining stand out from the ordinary block. They all are amazing. The Fog Music by John Carpenter is an amazing reference. But Kwaidan, why would you refer those five Halloweens? I think they all were beating each other for being known as incomprehensible piece of hilarity (I'm sorry but thats my opinion). I still would have understood if their music could be of that league. Dont you think these five dont actually belong to the list, they are completely off the league.




Try listening to the soundtracks on their own instead of watching the films next time. They all stand up in their own right. It's electronic music in a movie, take the cotton wool out of your ears man. Those 5 Halloween soundtracks/films belong to that list.

Another notable band who did a lot of soundtrack work using synthesizers etc were italian prog-rock band Goblin, mainly they composed a lot of soundtracks for italy's horror-meister Dario Argento.


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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: Kwaidan]
      #848076 - 21/07/10 11:52 AM
Quote Kwaidan:


Another notable band who did a lot of soundtrack work using synthesizers etc were italian prog-rock band Goblin, mainly they composed a lot of soundtracks for italy's horror-meister Dario Argento.




Which reminds me, I have the soundtrack to this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057302/

Some weird stuff on it, but I've not seen the film.
http://www.discogs.com/Armando-Sciascia-Metempsyco-Original-Soundtrack/rel ease/1962030

I've also got The Beyond and 4,3,2,1...Morte, the latter has some interesting organ bits in between the swinging pop.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: Richie Royale]
      #848351 - 22/07/10 02:57 PM
Quote Richie Royale:


Speaking of being heavily sampled, I can't belive I forgot to mention PREDATOR! Sampled by FSOL, but the sound design of "Predator POV" is a classic; the snarls, the sampling and pitching; it all adds up to some great sound design.







Predator was amazing, and so as POV. Arnold's best work in my opinion, I was a kid and got totally scared watching this awesome movie. This reminds me of Total Recall: theme music by Jerry Goldsmith.

O yeah, in the Predator theme there are some barely audible tribal percussion sounds. I love them.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #848370 - 22/07/10 03:58 PM
First check this:A Tale Of Two Sisters: Korean, (watch the whole clip as the theme begins at 0:17 and breaks at 0:50, but resumes again at 1:43), This movie is totally awesome, and you must watch it ASAP. I love this beautiful piece of highly emotional music.

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A Tale of Two Sisters (2003)

Director: Ji-woon Kim
Featuring immaculate musical compositions by legendary Lee Byung-woo (Any true Korean movie aficionado would know him).
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Korean movies have a tendency of heavily impacting the mind of the viewer, most of their movies have been almost mind altering. I sometime get too biased when comparing Korean films with other Non-English like spanish or French or Jap. Here I'll try to sound less biased.

Many would consider A Tale of Two Sisters as a horror flick but I think its not exactly a horror, instead its an emotional psychological thriller, to be precise, an ultra realistic emotional psychological thriller which happen to scare you like never before. Movie has a dull and laid-back tone, but gradually at each turning point a unique and surprising curiosity will unfold which will finally bring you to an extremely unsettling landscape that will soon reveal the truth. And truth is not what it seems, its not even the quite opposite of what its projected for. The final realization of this morose and heartrending tale of two sisters is ought to make your eyes moist.

For its serene sounds like bamboo wind chimes that constantly haunt the viewers, or a continuous serenity of the silence that will be driven or broken only by the emotion building in the viewers mind (If you do not believe me then watch it again and notice the music, sound and silences). I love the theme of this film and own a soundtrack that I still put in the player when it rains and I'm alone with a rolled up Rizla, (The last thing doesnt happen anymore as I'm a die-hard nonsmoker now).

After the movie, I can bet, you wont be able to get the movie off your head for days. And you will certainly recommend this to your friends. To tell the truth, this movie in itself is so good that it almost doesnt allow much space in your mind for Lee Byung-woo's magical music. I remember seeing movies that had amazing soundtrack, but cant recall much from those movies as my concentration was on its music. In A Tale Of Two Sisters its quite opposite. But that doesnt make its music of less importance.

On the league of the aesthetics of Korean film making, I would say that this movie must get nine out of ten. One point has only been taken off because there is another Korean masterpiece that beats it and takes the top place and will be my next criticism on this thread.



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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #848409 - 22/07/10 06:44 PM
Movie that I would rate ten out of ten.

I'm a Cyborg, But That's OK (2006)

Director: Park Chan-wook
Featuring Music by Jo Yeong-wook, the same guy behind the music of 'OldBoy'. OldBoy is another state of the art cinema by Park Chan-wook.
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'I'm A Cyborg, But That's OK' is one of my favorite movie of all time, and also the best romantic film I ever saw. If I was given the chance of making a list of 'best movies by humans' on Voyager: Golden Record Disc before sending it to the aliens, I would have added this movie without thinking twice. But I dont think there was any such list. What a superb comic, a satire, an almost out of this earth storyline that makes a terrific combination of humor and gloom. Movie would loosely fall in the genre of dark humor. It stirs your imagination to the heights and you will be many a times totally baffled when you will realize that its you who will be pulled down to the wavelength of the eccentric and desolate minds of the characters in the film instead of spoon feeding the meaning to you. Park Chan-wook is a master director. Last year he made 'Thirst', which I saw couple of months back, and liked it as well. I also liked his other one, 'OldBoy', that had been much more rewarding to Park, if he is counting on awards and box office ratings. I've seen almost all of Park's films, and loved all of them as well, but not a single one, I think, stands in comparison to 'I'm a Cyborg, But That's OK'. This movie is his best.

For music or sound I'll say that it was not so great impression as I was completely drugged with the surrealistic artwork of Park's direction. Still from whatever I perceived the sound fx are good and the music as well (especially including the sweet funny song when a huge bug takes Im Su-jeong on a magic hospital-bed ride). Im Su-jeong is the main protagonist in this movie and also in 'A Tale Of Two Sisters'. Many people and websites, including IMDB, confuses 'Im Su-jeong' as 'Su-Jeong Lim' (a South Korean kickboxer). All sound fx' are great, but I cant tell you to mute and watch to find out the effect because Park's amazing direction and clear as crystal visual effects of Jeon-hyeong Lee are too dominating.

If there are many who hasn't seen this movie already, then this thread, I think, was desperately required, even when they did not know what they're missing.
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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #849513 - 28/07/10 06:42 AM
Yesterday I saw AntiChrist (2009). Director Lars von Trier has made this amazing film under Tarkovsky's influence, which also seems to be quite obvious in many surreal scenes. It had some real good drone sounds (including the dream sequences). Visuals and sounds are designed to enhance bone-chilling surreal landscapes, and personally, I found them very effective.



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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #849523 - 28/07/10 08:00 AM
Let us not forget Scarface.
The man at his best.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #849804 - 29/07/10 07:44 AM
The Cell has some good stuff going on, if you can get past the lack luster J-Lo. Nice visuals as well.

I guess it's kind of relevant, but not much sound design, further to Zukan's Scarface - Blow Out; John Travolta as a sound man who accidentally records a murder. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blow_Out

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #850617 - 02/08/10 07:39 AM
I can't believe I hadn't mentioned this earlier.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070294/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Hell_House

For this reason:

Quote:

The film features an electronic music score and sound effects created by Delia Derbyshire and Brian Hodgson recorded at Hodgson's Electrophon studio in London. The soundtrack is currently unavailable commercially.




The film is a mediocre Horror, quite watchable, but the inspired choice of Delia and Brian make the film considerably better. The pitch shifted voice and eerie atmospherics make the film considerably better.

It also has a great monologue from Roddy McDowell concering the former owner of the house's kinks.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: Richie Royale]
      #850976 - 03/08/10 10:22 AM
Quote Richie Royale:

I can't believe I hadn't mentioned this earlier.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070294/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Hell_House





Thanx, I would not have found it otherwise.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #854842 - 20/08/10 11:49 AM
:An excellent documentary:

Universal Techno - Arte Thema (1996) Part 1

Universal Techno - Arte Thema (1996) Part 2

Universal Techno - Arte Thema (1996) Part 3

Universal Techno - Arte Thema (1996) Part 4

Universal Techno - Arte Thema (1996) Part 5

Universal Techno - Arte Thema (1996) Part 6

I dont know why but the last part # 7 is missing.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #854937 - 20/08/10 08:18 PM
The Qatsi Trilogy



Koyaanisqatsi

Powaqqatsi

Naqoyqatsi

Watch them in the chronological order.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #862790 - 21/09/10 06:18 PM
Touch the sound - Part 1 (watch the complete film. Its intoxicating)

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #862975 - 22/09/10 03:08 PM
Quote AuralSerenity:

Touch the sound - Part 1 (watch the complete film. Its intoxicating)




Wow - that's an exceedingly good link AS.

Thanks!


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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #864507 - 29/09/10 04:03 AM
I love the soundtrack of the original 'Alien' film. It beautifully accentuates the stark , cold , loneliness & the eerie anticipation of the unknown of outer space & the build up of tension for the coming Geiger created events .

Another obvious favorite of mine for marriage of soundtrack to visuals/ story & atmosphere is 'Bladerunner'.

Any of Andrei Tarkovskys' films that I have seen also have a beautiful & haunting balance of soundtrack & visuals/ storyline. 'Solaris'( the original) being a prime example. Very beautiful & visionary work.

A lot of the late Derek Jarmans' work is also very beautiful, moving & visionary of course in itself , but also in the context of the soundtracks & they way that they fuse & become one with the overall film.

I am generally quite unimpressed with the way film makers employ sound & soundtracks, with the exception of notable ones already listed in this thread, (some of which I havn't experienced yet).
There is such vast scope in this medium for deeply innovative & imaginative synergy & it remains so pedestrian & generally boring.


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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: Captain Waves]
      #864520 - 29/09/10 07:33 AM
Alien? Absolutely.

Its great to know that there are more Andrei Tarkovsky followers over here than I assumed. But for its musicality, Eduard Artemiev must be as much appreciated as Tarkovsky himself. For those outstandingly beautiful masterpieces of films could have lacked perfection without Artemiev.

I quite disagree with bladerunner, then that's my humble opinion, instead if I have to vote for Evangelos Odysseas, I would say Chariots of Fire (Slow motion running) truly was a great composition.

Derek Jarman. Whoa. Now that's an incredible suggestion to anyone who had not yet felt Wittgenstein or Blue or War Requiem. Each of them coax you to become a ferocious critic but then it smartly entraps you and drops you right on your face.

Thanx Captain Waves, please let the flow continue and throw some more suggestions, Its been quite a long since I saw any good film.

O here I dont know what but something about Bladerunner always reminds me of Brazil. That was too shocking for me to handle when I saw it first time. And still after so so many years have passed by, I just cant come over the hauntingly beautiful vocals of Kate Bush. Man! she was sensuality almost to the point of perfection.

Uhmm! I got a bit driven, I think.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #864881 - 30/09/10 12:36 AM
I think the end sequence in Bladerunner is incredibly moving; the bit where they ( the star -lovers)escape & fly off to a new life & happiness in the craft , into the sunset , beautiful landscape & back to nature. Extremely evocative , Vangelis at his best , the CS80 ( or whatever it was on that particular bit) at its best.
There are other excellent bits too. I like the simplistic use of synthesised sounds rather than ultra realism & precisely synced , pedestrian sounds of most modern sountracks .
I hate those typical Holywood cliches & massive 'blockbuster' orchestrations, whether it is gigastudio/ or whatever philharmonic or massive 9000 piece orchestra & choirs. ( apologies to anyone reading who writes these soundtracks, Hans Zimmerman(?) etc) I just find those huge fanfares etc grating on the nerves & usually unnecessary! Im aware that they are standard cinematic devices & accepted by the masses & powers that be etc, however I would find them much more interesting if they were more individual, innovative & subtly done.
However some of the earlier Holywood productions had excellent soundtracks, eg some of Hitchcock's classics & some of the films already mentioned in this thread , especially the 'Good the Bad & the Ugly', spagetti western series.

I studied filmmaking & have always been a composer & musician, so when I was in college I always made a story or whatever in sound & then made a visual -track to compliment that, completely the opposite to the standard method. The sound / music was the primary stimulus & the film/ visuals were made to accentuate those themes. (these works came across as quite surreal & abstract obviously & probably not very interesting to most viewers, but I enjoyed making them & the results)

Another film that came to mind regarding excellent use of soundtrack/ music elements is 'Dune', (the original), & most of David Lynchs' work, as has been noted.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #864900 - 30/09/10 01:54 AM
I meant 'Hans Zimmer', RE: mistake in previous post, but am not able to edit it for some reason.


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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #865066 - 30/09/10 05:48 PM
Quote AuralSerenity:

Touch the sound - Part 1 (watch the complete film. Its intoxicating)



Cheers for that!


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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #865724 - 03/10/10 10:51 PM
Yes, another big up CHEERS & appreciation for the excellent
'Touch the sound '.
Most inspiring.
Evelyn Glennie is amazing & brilliant.


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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #866114 - 05/10/10 04:43 PM
"This is England '86", saw it yesterday. It was pure shocking. Musically nothing peculiar but it was hell lot of fun to watch this, I think, TV series.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #866774 - 08/10/10 04:38 AM
How Music Works (Again, do not miss watching all the parts. Pick the parts from description below the video).

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #866787 - 08/10/10 08:34 AM
Brian Eno - For All Mankind

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_All_Mankind


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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: thenaturallevel]
      #866944 - 08/10/10 07:21 PM
Did it actually happen? The moon mission, I mean.

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #866949 - 08/10/10 08:22 PM
Werckmeister harmóniák (2000) is a must see and also the seven hour long epic by the same director Sátántangó (1994). These two and also some more of Béla Tarr's work quite easily makes him my favorite and one most loved director. I can go on and speak till I run out of space in SOS. But anything else spoken about these movies will be a spoiler and prepare your eclectic vision. I will recommend these to all the music lovers for the disquieting melodies that meaningfully spread across the canvas of these films.

A spoiler (Well, almost a spoiler) - There was a scene in Werckmeister harmóniák that will not let even the hardest soul go scot-free, and if you are alone watching that scene then, believe me, you'll Shed tears. You wont exactly cry, but you'll weep. In my case my eyes drooped down with utter shame. Shame of the self realization of fallacies that we as a species hold against each other. You will not be able to keep your coolness intact when Béla Tarr present you with the most heart rending scene ever filmed in any form of cinema.

The only reason I didnt mention these films earlier was the sense of possessiveness that I'm infested with. I would kind of like the idea of keeping these rare cult a rare cult. But now I know that that's a bad feeling.

By the way seven hour long Satantango consist of mere 37 shots that stretch on to make that long an epic. Also if you like these films the way I did then do watch other great work of this director like Kárhozat (1988).

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Re: Movies that set an inspiration for sound design new [Re: gryfyx]
      #867266 - 10/10/10 10:31 PM
Not the whole movie, but there is a sound of the asteroids colliding (if I remember correctly) in one of the last three Star Wars movies, that left a very strong impression on me. A sound which has pushed me a little bit closer to creating my own library of SFX sounds.

Also, some of the alien speech in (the 2nd? of the new Star Wars) was equally impressive and extra cool.

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