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FAQs for all Atarians
      #5690 - 05/09/04 11:22 AM
Hi everybody,
welcome to the new all singing, all dancing Atari forum.

We'll no doubt cover a great deal of ground in the next few years on all things Atari, but for newcomers, and those who've just forgotten, here are a few FAQ and the various answers.

Which Atari is which?
The basic ST comes in three forms: the original STF, STFM and STE.
some very early ones only have 520k of memory, most have 1meg, and all can be upgraded to either 2, 2.5, or 4 meg.
STFs and FMs need soldering skills, while the STE uses plug in SIMMs, which are very easy to install. A 4 meg STE will handle anything you care to throw at it, and can run several programs at once, if you're using a multitasking system as supplied with Cubase, Notator, or KCS.
The Mega ST and STE Series are larger units with seperate keyboards and possibly a hard drive.
The TT series runs at double the speed (16mHz, I believe) and is a very powerful machine, although some programs are not happy on it.
The Falcon is a rare and wonderful beast, coming in various formats up to 14 meg memory, with the capability to run audio progs. However, it's not entirely backwards compatible with ST progs (one of the more stupid things Atari did!).
There's the full story here:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1995_articles/mar95/atarinotes.html
Can Ataris read PC and Mac disks?
Yes, But only if you format them for DOS. Macs and PCs won't read Atari format disks. There are various accessories that can write boot info for PCs and Macs on your Atari, but the safest way is to use the formatting system on your PC or Mac as above.

My monitor is on the way out. What should I do?
Dump it and get a PC monitor, and buy an adaptor lead from Keychange. The advantages of a 17-21" display are wonderful!

Can I sync an Atari to my PC, Mac or hardware recorder?
Yes. You can sync it via MTC and MMC, or use SMPTE timecode in some cases via Unitor (for Notator users), or MIDEX (Cubase users). There are also units for this purpose if you're using other programs.

Can I use a hard drive system?
Undoubtedly, and they don't have to sound like coffee grinders either!
As long as you have a suitable adaptor lead (again from Keychange), you can use large HDs, Zips and cartridge systems like the Syquest EZ drive. If you have ICD link software, that will do all the formatting and housekeeping duties, and you'll find that you don't have to drown in boxes of floppies!

Is there much software available?
Yes, and the majority of it is all FREE! Go to Tim's Atari world: http://tamw.atari-users.net/ and you'll find many former commercial programs available free, including some wacky algorithmic stuff for experimental composers. Note that Notator is a free download from www.notator.org, but it still needs an official dongle to work.

What about synth editors?

Lots available, and as you would expect, they'll be for classic and older synths. So don't expect a Fantom or Triton editor!
Go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atari-midi-archives/SOUNDS
and you'll see the list in manufacturer order.

Who fixes Ataris and sells add ons and other useful bits?
Easy. Currently one port of call in the U.K.
www.keychange.co.uk
who keep many of the contributors to this forum up and running (including myself). If you need help and assistance, servicing, hardware and that hard to find bit, Barrie is the guy to contact (usual disclaimer).
And for non U.K. readers, he DOES send worldwide.


Another useful site for all things Atari is the Atari Launchpad :
http://gem.win.co.nz/hall/

with links, downloads, and a database of Atari related stuff.
Tims' Atari MIDI world has links to some of the on line Atari mags as well


Anyway, that's enough to get you started. Ask any questions, and we'll keep you up and running.

Best wishes,
Dave
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Edited by David Etheridge (12/01/10 05:51 PM)


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #9932 - 09/09/04 05:58 PM
Oi!

Re. the model info in the FAQ:

I've got a Mega STE 4, and it has a 16MHz CPU with cache - a 68020 IIRC.

Hmmm... And wasn't the (some?) TT's running a 68030 at 32MHz? That's just a vague recollection though...

DJ
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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #15954 - 19/09/04 10:36 AM
Hi folks,
just an update for you.
The Notator website and forum is currently temporarily unavailable,
although Hallvard (the owner) is looking to re-instate it soon.
Until then, any Notator fans can post questions, hints and tips here!!

Check with Tim's Atari MIDIworld and the Atari MIDI users group for further details, and as soon as I hear anything further I'll post it here.

Best wishes,

David.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #18038 - 21/09/04 02:56 PM
Hi again folks,
here's the current list of editors and soundbanks available on the atari MIDI users group. Choose your synth here!

The list comprises:
Synths and FX units:
Alesis Quadraverb,
Casio CZ and VZ,
Ensoniq ESQ1, SQ80, VFX and Proteus.
Kawai K1, K3, K4, and K5,
Korg DW8000, M1, Wavestation,
Lexicon LXP1/5/15/PCM70 FX units,
Moog Memorymoog,
Oberheim Matrix 6 and 1000,
OSCar,
Kurzweil 1000/1200 series,
Roland JV1080, JX10, JX8, MKS50, SC55, and the former C-lab Explorer prog that edits all the LAS range from the MT32 through the D/U110 and 20 right up to the D50/550,
Yamaha's DX/TX range (obviously!!), and also the TX81Z, TG100, and SY77.

Sampler editors include the Akai 900/950, and Roland S760, 330 and 550 models.

Go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atari-midi-archives/files

and you'll see what's there.


Of course if anyone knows of other sources for soundbanks, synth editors and more, I'd love to hear about them!

Best wishes,

David.



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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #35758 - 15/10/04 03:30 PM
Hi folks,
the notator website is back up and running!

http://www.notator.org

with all the facts, info and free downloads associated with this classic prog.
Please be aware that although it's a free download Notator 3.21 still needs an official dongle to run, so you won't find dodgy hacks here (which never work properly anyway)

So, visit and enjoy!


Best wishes,

David.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #36112 - 16/10/04 09:48 AM
excellent news David!

Now if only I had a working Atari.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #56049 - 30/11/04 01:48 AM
Hi,
Just a small hint about my own website, which has some info about how to get the Falcon working with Cubase Audio - and some other stuff which might be useful from time to time...
http://www.holmerup.com is the address.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #56342 - 30/11/04 06:20 PM
Thanks Claes for the good info.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: Neo-Classical Guitar Man]
      #61490 - 12/12/04 05:10 PM
http://tamw.atari-users.net/gemxplor.zip

This is a great tool, and allows you to read/write Atari formatted disks on Modern PC's.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: Designnotes]
      #74813 - 17/01/05 11:35 AM
Doesn't work, "file not found" message. Any other sites?
thanks
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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: grenham]
      #74837 - 17/01/05 12:12 PM
Hi there,
this should work- I've just tried it and the link downloads the prog automatically.
Best wishes,

Dave.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #75252 - 18/01/05 08:58 AM
Great, got it !
thanks
Lyn


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: Designnotes]
      #109227 - 01/04/05 08:40 PM
Quote Pirate Giant with Laser Eyes:

http://tamw.atari-users.net/gemxplor.zip

This is a great tool, and allows you to read/write Atari formatted disks on Modern PC's.




Hi PGWLE (is that right?)
For those who don't already know, Ataris will read DOS formatted disks from your PC, and Mac users can format disks with DOS too that will be read happily by both.
Although I should point out that (relatively) modern Macs from the G3 onwards only support HD disk formatting via a standalone USB disk drive, so you'll either need to use a MegaSTE, which supprts both DD and HD disks, or see if you can get a module fitted to your ST to enable HD disks to be read/formatted. They are available, as I have one fitted to my studio STE.
As usual, Barrie can tell you more about this.
(But yes, you are right Gemexplorer is excellent)

Best wishes,

David.



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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #176540 - 02/09/05 11:12 AM
Hi again folks,
more news: I found out that my G3 Mac can support DD formatting with an external USB drive, so that works fine. If you're using a Mac with OSX, then you'll need to restart it under OS9 to get all the formatting options and even get it to write to the disk

I've been asked for any other useful addresses for Atari stuff. Here are two:
Analogic computers (http://www.analogic.co.uk) also do repairs and bits and are handy for those of you living in the south east, as they're based in Kingston Upon Thames.
There's also a company called the Atari Workshop (http://www.atari-workshop.co.uk)
who appear to offer a lot, although their prices on secondhand Ataris defy belief!

Barrie is currently moving house, but will be up and running again very soon. My infamous tower system has thrown a wobbly and isn't recognised by my Mega STE, so it's gone to him for a heart transplant on the SCSI card
If I didn't have my Syquest EZ drive I'd be well and truly (deleted)


I'll give you a heads up when he's back up to speed.

Best wishes,

Dave.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #188405 - 28/09/05 08:42 AM
Hi again gang,
Barrie has now moved and will be up and running over the next few days.


Note his new number:
01925-823334.

Best wishes,

Dave.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #207036 - 06/11/05 09:41 AM
Hi folks,
more synth editors to add to your list are Zeus, a librarian program for the Emu Morpheus/Ultraproteus, and a Korg Prophecy bankloader.
go to http://tamw.atari-users.net/joker.htm
and you'll find further details there.

Best wishes,
Dave

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #258993 - 24/02/06 12:24 PM
Hi again folks,
just to let you know that there are as of today 992 members of the yahoo atari MIDI forum.

So we're not alone!

Dave.


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Edited by David Etheridge (28/07/06 07:46 AM)


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #285320 - 21/04/06 09:32 AM
Some more info:
Two of the three original Atari Launchpad sites (Frisco and Norway) have been discontinued, so you won't get any results from the mirror sites.
Here's the official and remaining one, courtesy of Hallvard Tangeraas, Notator list owner and all round diamond geezer:
http://launchpad.atari.net.nz

Dave.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #315410 - 24/06/06 12:57 PM
Here's another useful site:
http://www.atari-forum.com.
This has 1855 users (as of today) and has members that are experts in helping with program details and fixits, particularly if your master disks have been corrupted and aren't freeware or shareware.
Help and advice on all forms of Atari software and hardware from enthusiasts just like us!

Best wishes,
Dave.

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Edited by David Etheridge (28/07/06 07:47 AM)


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #354083 - 15/09/06 01:30 PM
As of today, the atari MIDI yahoo group has
1000 members.

who says we're all on our own?

Dave.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #387983 - 01/12/06 08:44 AM
Hi folks,
here's the link to the latest version of Ultimate Virus Killer, which is version 9:
http://www.uvk2000.com/

It's a FREE download

and essential stuff for all Atarians!

Best wishes,
Dave.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #445748 - 11/04/07 07:26 AM
Hi Gang,
a new posting on the Notator group gives this link:

http://joo.kie.sk/satandisk/

No-it doesn't mean that Atarians have sold their souls!

But it's a new project for using MMC and SD memory cards -up to a whopping 4 GIG instead of existing hard drives


Sounds interesting!!!

Dave.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #446683 - 13/04/07 10:42 AM
Looks like a good project for my soldering iron to tackle, although not until next year at the soonest (way too much stuff to deal with right now).

I suppose it can be mounted internally without much trouble? Just need to source the parts now.


NCGM - thanks Dave!

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #481828 - 05/07/07 08:52 AM
Hi again folks,
there's more news about Satandisk here:

http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9975

Looks like it's going to be available very soon!

Dave.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #518996 - 14/09/07 04:09 PM
...And Satandisk is shipping and the first owners are road testing them now.
Here's this from the Atari Midi users forum:

Satandisk is a Secure Digital and MultiMediaCard adapter for Atari 16-bit
computers, such as the Atari ST. It is out of the pre-production stage and units
have now been shipped to most customers. It is an interface that allows the
connection of an SD or MMC card to be attached to the ACSI (Hard Disc) port of
Atari Computers, and has been tested to be compatible with TOS versions 1.02 to
2.06. The maximum supported size is 4GB. The device appears to the system as any
regular ACSI attached hard disc, and can be formatted and partitioned with AHDI
compatible hard disc utilities.


And this from another happy user:
I tested my new SatanDisk on the weekend and it works just like a hard drive. I am now configuring it to load my programs etc. so I am not running my Notator from the SD yet but expect to be using it later on next week when
I return from a business trip. So far there are no problems. The assembly looks professional. There is no manual to speak of but Jookie has a mini manual on the net. Probably someone� maybe me!- should put together a proper manual to pull together all technical information which is on
Jookie�s web site and the SatanDisk website. One note: You cannot remove the SD card with the system powered. In addition the SatanDisk did not come with a power supply I was under the impression that the SatanDisk would steal
power from the Atari but a 7.5 to 12VDC PSU is required and I had to hunt around to get one.


Thanks to the users group for this one: you can start checking it out or even building your own one (details and FREE schematics on the Satandisk site listed above).

Best wishes,

Dave.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #530686 - 06/10/07 06:23 AM
Hi folks,
here's another FREE download resource for progs and applications:
http://atari.music.free.fr/

Enjoy!

Dave.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #535953 - 19/10/07 04:18 PM
...and have a look at this site:
http://atari.nvg.org/

which under the hardware section shows how to adapt an XG soundcard into your Atari!

(some soldering skills and electronic knowledge required )

Dave.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #541861 - 04/11/07 09:22 PM
I've seen that soundcard article before I think many years ago, although I am not sure if it only handles MIDI or whether audio sequencing was possible, even if only stereo?


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: Neo-Classical Guitar Man]
      #541891 - 04/11/07 10:53 PM
I think it's just MIDI only, allowign for full GM stuff without even needing an outboard expander.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #549639 - 25/11/07 09:52 AM
Here are some new hardware upgrade links, courtesy of Neo Classical Guitar Man (for which many thanks):
http://hardware.atari.org/netusbee/netus.htm
http://hardware.atari.org/vids/P1010405.html
http://www.digitalera.co.uk/catalog/Compact_Flash_IDE_Adapters-53-1.html


Dave.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #550094 - 26/11/07 12:52 PM
Here's news from the Atari forum on hardware development.
It's still going on!
http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=12516&postdays=0&postorder=asc& start=0
And some pics on what's been achieved so far:
http://download.experiment-s.de/Suska-III%20Classic/Images/Prototype/Image s_20071121.zip

Note that these are rather large pics, and the site is not quite up to date, but there's a lot on offer for those with engineering skills.

Best wishes,

Dave.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #569263 - 18/01/08 03:12 PM
Hi again gang,
here's Mario Beecroft's download ftp site, with everything you need for Atari MIDI work: sequencers, editors and utilities:

ftp://gem.win.co.nz/hall/midi/

and lots more stuff on the parent site:

ftp://gem.win.co.nz/

Dave.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #572876 - 28/01/08 09:13 AM
And another Atari site full of useful stuff:
http://www.jaapan.de/en/uptodate.php?page=multi_midi

Dave.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #581694 - 18/02/08 08:04 AM
Here's an interesting site with all sorts of info on various Atari systems:
http://www.atari-korps.co.uk/index.php

Dave.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #586707 - 02/03/08 09:42 AM
Here's a virtual PG-800 editor for Roland JX8P, JX10 and MKS70 synths:

http://www.home.zonnet.nl/m.tarenskeen/jxeditor.htm

plus the newest version of Uni-man, a universal synth editor:
http://www.home.zonnet.nl/m.tarenskeen/uni_man.htm

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #594319 - 23/03/08 10:54 AM
And some more useful downloads from these guys here:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/backroom/MIDI.HTM

and some links and further applications will be found here:
http://microkit.free.fr/Atari/Midi-apps/

and in case you haven't already seen this, one of the largest archives of Atari MIDI stuff is here:
http://archive.cs.uu.nl/pub/MIDI/PROGRAMS/ATARI/

with a mirror site here:
http://ringtail.its.monash.edu.au/pub/midi/PROGRAMS/ATARI/


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #599837 - 04/04/08 01:47 PM
Hi gang,
it looks like the Atari Workshop has finally disappeared from sight.
The URL for them comes up as not found.
http://www.atari-workshop.co.uk/
Does anyone know anything about this and can confirm?
If true, then Barrie's our last resort!

I should also point out for our U.S readers the following link:
http://www.myatari.com/
which is the link to B & C computers in the U.S. They have a large range of stuff on offer, although by European standards their prices seem a bit high (which is understandable), their hard drives and peripherrals look reasonable in price.
You got to work with what you got, I suppose......


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #601590 - 08/04/08 04:22 PM
Here's another archive from the University of Michigan, which is still up and running:

http://www.umich.edu/~archive/atari/Music/

Lots of free downloadable stuff here!

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #613356 - 08/05/08 10:31 AM
Hi folks,
just talking to Barrie today and he pointed out that the ST now dates back to 1985. That means we're using technology that will soon be a quarter of a century old!!
I have to admit that when BOTH my Macs threw a wobbly two weeks ago it was very reassuring to fire up my faithful Atari and everything worked fine.
And if they do conk out , getting them fixed is a lot cheaper (YAY) and quicker (double Yay ) than my local Apple centre .
Sometimes I think we forget how lucky we are.
So in 2010, I'll try to plan a 25th anniversary bash or get together for Atarians.
Best wishes,

Dave.
a Mega STE, 3 STEs and an STFM -still working!
I G3 Mac now behaving itself, a G5 Mac in dry dock

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #614305 - 11/05/08 03:25 PM
Here's another link to a U.S company specialising in Atari products:
http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/

who have lots of stuff for all Ataris including hard drives and repair bits down to component level.

Can't be bad at all!

Dave.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #624085 - 07/06/08 09:46 AM
Here's a french site with a host of Atari MIDI applications:
http://membres.lycos.fr/falkweb/p-audio.htm


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #638731 - 18/07/08 11:58 PM
Here's a site with free downloads of Cubase Audio Falcon (CAF) for anyone whose disks may have gone phut:
http://doyeuxyvan.free.fr/cubase/caf20/

Note that this is not a hack, but the genuine article which will only work with the CAF dongle....

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #645665 - 11/08/08 02:31 PM
Here's another Yahoo group Atari MIDI site:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/atari-midi/

Lots of useful stuff here, and the files section has a terrific range of apps:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/atari-midi/files/

with synth editors, sequencers, programming and a whole bunch of useful stuff

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #657915 - 18/09/08 08:40 AM
Hi gang,
I noticed in recent days that my Atari was starting to do an impression of a PC on bootup!
Problems with not seeing the hard drive, locking up when trying to load Notator, selecting 'Load Song' and a blank list of drives comes up, or 'Save Song' and the same thing happens.
Okay I thought, maybe my Atari needs a service and it's Barrie time. Easy -I can just use one of my spares. Guess what -the same thing happened!
Now there's no way that several Ataris all go phut at the same time (that's PC country ).
So I rang Barrie and asked advice.
What happens is that the C drive on your HD system gets a right caning over the weeks/months/years and eventually things start to get a bit untidy and the boot system starts playing up. Even though I'd suspected a virus, running UVK revealed no dodgies, plus I had some fun even GETTING UVK to load -more boot problems.
So: the fix is to wipe the C drive and reinstall from backups -you do have a backup, don't you?
Luckily, I have my infamous tower drive system with complete backups for my Syquest drive, so I reformatted the whole drive using ICD format, then repartitioned the drive, and then copied everything across from my backup files.
Now, I'm up and running again (yay ).
So every few months or so -depending on how much work you do- reformat your C drive and restore the files to it. Everything will run as smoothly as an Atari can do and is renowned for.
If you're using floppies exclusively, make sure your boot disk floppy is a happy bunny and reformat and load as necessary to keep things running. You'd be amazed at the strange things that can happen with a slightly corrupted bootfile!

Best wishes,

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #657954 - 18/09/08 10:16 AM
Hi again folks,
just browsing through some more Atari MIDI sites I can across Studioson, a Falcon based DSP program, now in it's latest incarnation (well, from 2007).
Here is the latest txt file from the creator, Yvan Doyeux:

Today, it is not a day of bad luck because there is the new release of Studio Son for your Atari Falcon. Studio Son 2.093b is available in the wonderful french language: http://doyeuxyvan.free.fr/studioson/std2093b/STD2093F.ZIP The english version can be found here: http://doyeuxyvan.free.fr/studioson/std2093b/STD2093E.ZIP You can, of course, find the classic 68030 and 68030+68882 versions in these archives. I have performed a lot of hard tests to check the quality of my algorithms. I have written a lot of different DSP and C programs to obtain correct results. But, it is still a beta version, so be careful with your samples ! This version has been tested with an original Falcon 030 with a 68882 coprocessor. The CT60 card is not officially supported. ----------- Bugs fixed: ----------- - Better WAV, AIFF and AVR formats implementation. - Space disk remaining bug fixed. ----------------------------- New features and bugs fixed: ( since 2.09b version ) -----------------------------
- Rewritten "Apply Effect" function. Studio Son does not need a temporary file any more. - You can now create with "New Sound File..." blank AIFF, WAV, TRK, SND and AVR files. WAV files created are always 8 bits unsigned and 16 bits signed with little endian format ( Intel ). Either are always big endian format ( Motorola ). - You can create you own sample frequency. - New management of external DSP effects. - New useful alert boxes added. - AU/SND files header write error fixed. - Several loop errors. - The approximative hi-speed play has been disabled. - Icons draw bugs. - Intempestive play. - DSP effect restore bug after effects changes during a play. - Reverse stereo with Invert function. - Block undraw after a Scrub. - Undo after the "Replace" function. - Reverse stereo of echo-delay DSP effect. - Record from cursor. - Pause with SPACE while recording under Magic. - Crashs when filtering under Magic fixed. - For a resample process under Magic, internal file management fixed. - Significative noise reduction of plopping sounds as long as you use Studio Son. - Management improved of AIFF files compatible with Cubase Audio. These files are now saved with a physical size rounded to 1024 bytes multiples. Useful to prevent crackling noise when you import your AIFF files with Cubase Audio. - Buggy "Scrub" function rewritten. No crash occurs. - Reverse stereo bug for a "Scrub" fixed but still in beta test mode. - Buggy "Cross Fade" function improved. Autocorrection for wrong parameters. The UNDO is also correct. - Cut, Copy, Paste, Insert and others have their UNDO bugs fixed. - Bug of the current working folder fixed. ( After an Insert for example ) - DSP effect after a Resample and Filtering is now restored with no problem. - Overall settings saving are now re-enabled ! Up to date, you MUST keep the STUDIO.SYS folder. - Rewritten "New Sound File" function. You can now create a file with the fileselector, choose a frequency, ... - Rewritten "Apply Effect" function. Sample gap subtly fixed. Due to the DSP real time application of this function, it is obvious that it remains a very small gap into your final sample. This gap is usually filled by zero values as it has been thought for this rewritten function. So, it's not recommended to apply an effect to a block selection. - Markers management bugs fixed. ( Delete, saving and loading procedures ) - There was play error with "Preview Cut" function. It's now okay. - Block selection with SHIFT+TAB to the next marker has been debugged. - Sample time length is now updated after any UNDO. - Little bug fixed during a play actived by the space bar with an exported sample from Studio Son. - Resampling function added ( Linear Interpolation ). - Resampling function includes a filter and linear interpolation code in only one DSP program. - You can resample from 2 Khz to 192 Khz. - WAV files opening issue fixed. - Huge undo bug fixed. - Huge bug of the volume of mono samples filtered fixed. - FIR filters ( Low Pass, High Pass, Band Pass and Band Reject ) up to 2048 coeefficients. - Resample process can be followed by a LowPass filter up to 1024 coefficients. - DSP Filter algorithm improved. The speed of the treatment have been increased. Now you can enjoy a good optimization of the filtering process. - The end of the sample is now truly filtered. - Vu meter clipping problems fixed. - The cursor running is now correct when sample frequency is not the same as the system frequency. - Desktop background pattern modified to improve the work in monochrome. - Redraw bug of the desktop in monochrome corrected. - Several dialog boxes fields bugs fixed in monochrome. - Crashs at very high zoom levels fixed. - You can now really select all the sample with the mouse. - You can now really place the cursor at the end of the sample with the mouse. - Wrong size of the blocks at the end of the sample corrected. - You can now create a block with a "one sample" size when you make a long click on a part of the sample. - New alert boxes for the Filtering and Resampling function. - New internal undo for the Resampling function. New function "Resample..." allows you to change the frequency of your samples with a linear interpolation and an optional Low Pass filter. The "Filtering..." function enables you to carry out FIR filters ( Low Pass, High Pass, Band Pass and Band Reject ). This is performed by the DSP 56001 and with Direct to Disk process. ------------- Known bugs: ------------- - No sound when playing very high frequency samples. - Slowly WAV files opening. - Selected block after a resampling task is not deleted. - Sample duration and time counter are wrong when the system frequency doesn't match with the sample frequency. - Unable to reduce physically the size of a sample when you cut blocks. - In the time counter, the value 99 is followed by 10. - Several little bugs into the sample window. - The icon of the function "Generate Low Frequencies" differs with the colour of the resolution. - Little bugs of sample drawing. - Random error messages when filter steepness is very low. - Minor bugs. Up to date, you MUST keep the STUDIO.SYS folder with Studio Son program file. If you are using Studio Son on a single TOS, I strongly recommend the launch of ARROWFIX.PRG in the AUTO folder: http://doyeuxyvan.free.fr/studioson/std2093b/arrfix15/ If you are using NVDI, just run ARROWFIX.PRG after this. Otherwise, GEM must be copied in RAM with the program GEMRAM.PRG before running ARROWFIX.PRG: http://doyeuxyvan.free.fr/studioson/std2093b/GEMRAM16/ If you have troubles to run Studio Son under Magic, you can use the patch DSPSLOW1.PRG by Centek included into the package or you can find it here: http://doyeuxyvan.free.fr/studioson/std2093b/DSPSLOW1.PRG Don't run DSPSLOW1.PRG if you launch Studio Son under TOS otherwise you might have display or DSP locked issues. You can also use the nice DSPXBIOS patch by Didier Mequignon: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/didierm/files/dspxbios.zip http://doyeuxyvan.free.fr/studioson/std2093b/dspxbios.zip If you use an external clock, run FDI_INIT.PRG into the AUTO folder: http://doyeuxyvan.free.fr/studioson/std2093b/FDI_INIT.PRG FPATCH2.PRG is now included in the package. You can also download self-extracting STZIP unpacker: http://doyeuxyvan.free.fr/stzip26/STZIP26.TOS Have fun ! Yvan Doyeux


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #657956 - 18/09/08 10:19 AM
Here's another link to various fun programs that you might like to try:
http://www.atari.org/links/Midi/Software/

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #657958 - 18/09/08 10:22 AM
And for those of you who would like to try Atari programs under STEEM and even use them live, here's some interesting info with links:
http://livepa.blogspot.com/2008/04/past-gets-futuristic-again-atari-steem. html

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #657964 - 18/09/08 10:28 AM
Here's another U.S. Atari company, Best electronics, who have been going for 25 years!

Respect, guys!

http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #658036 - 18/09/08 12:57 PM
Recently the Atari ST emulator SainT was updated after a long gap and now supports the use of Atari ST floppy disks with the PCs floppy drive.

SainT web page


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: Neo-Classical Guitar Man]
      #660453 - 25/09/08 11:13 AM
Hi folks,
I've been speaking to Barrie this morning (my Syquest drive mech is doing strange things -not bad after 8+ years of trouble free use) and he's now offering PC mice with the PeST interface, which offers great reliability and increased performance compared to the now aging Atari ones.
01925-823334 will put you on to the man with the fax'n'info.
Remember that Barrie has just about everything you need to keep chugging along -without him we'd have to give up!

Best wishes,

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #660582 - 25/09/08 04:20 PM
I put in an order with Alison for a PeST a week or two back, and I she tells me it is nearly made I asked for her to make me the old version with the PS/2 socket, but recently she has started hard wiring some Microsoft Optical Wheel mice onto the PeST interface. I don't care for the Microsoft mice and hence why I asked for the old PS/2 version, which works with optical mice anyway.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: Neo-Classical Guitar Man]
      #692326 - 29/12/08 09:48 AM
Here's another Atari forum with lots of info for all Atari models. The ST section's not that large compared to the more game oriented lists, but there's some useful stuff here:
http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #712457 - 02/03/09 09:49 AM
Hi folks,
here's the link to MyAtari, the online magazine, with downloadable zips of issues from 2000 to 2005:
http://www.myatari.net/

You'll find articles and workshops on all aspects of atari use, including music articles.

Best wishes,

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #721665 - 30/03/09 04:21 PM
There are links galore here:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/atari-midi/links

with just about all you need to keep adding and expanding your Atari knowledge!

Dave


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #721667 - 30/03/09 04:27 PM
And of course there's always the Atari notes on the SOSwebsite!
Do a search under Atari and you'll see lots of past hints and tips come up, like this one:
http://www.soundonsound.com/search?url=%2Fsearch&Keyword=atari&Year=+&Mont h=+&Words=All&Summary=No&Section=0&Subject=0&ShowResults=yes

This is a good one for newbies:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr01/articles/atarinotes.htm

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #732985 - 08/05/09 11:34 AM
Here are some links for the more advanced Atari user:
http://www.seimet.de/atari/en/hddriver.html

the home of HDdriver for your hard disk operations, and
http://www.application-systems.de/atari/produktefuratari.html

which includes MagiC (an alternative desktop system) and
http://freemint.de/en/

MiNt, which offers all sorts of fun and frolics for systems, networking and tools.

You can find some details on these from the Atari notes columns from SOS on the links in the above posts.

Best wishes,

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #757856 - 28/07/09 07:11 AM
Hi folks once again,
it's seemed rather quiet on the Atari Music front recently.
However, appearances can be deceptive, as this new link will show that Atarians have been busy behind the scenes:
http://www.atarimusic.net/

This looks like it may be a biggie for the Atari music community!


Best wishes,
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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #758256 - 29/07/09 03:29 PM
Nice one Dave I will have to sign up with that.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: Neo-Classical Guitar Man]
      #767818 - 04/09/09 01:07 PM
The latest update is that AtariMusicNet will be going live in October.
I'll give you a heads up when it's fully up to speed.
You may find it surprising!

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #771276 - 18/09/09 08:47 AM
As of today, there are 1186 members on the Atari MIDI users group!
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/atari-midi/

Onwards and upwards with Atari!

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #779670 - 17/10/09 08:21 AM
Here's a site with schematics for building your own extra MIDI ports (a kind of DIY C-lab Export) plus lots of other useful hardware and software bits.
http://atari4ever.free.fr/hardware/index.html
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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #803288 - 13/01/10 05:40 PM
In 2010 there seems to be all sorts of stuff still available!
While quite a few of the old links seem to have vanished off the web, some are still going, albeit with the odd clunkers in links.

Here's a useful synth edit site for Atarians:
http://atari.mnx2010.nl/helpdesk/music/music.htm
which has a lot but is definitely clunky in the downloads!
the only way I could get them to work correctly is to type in all the info from the link, rather than clicking on the 'server 1' and server 2 links, that take you to an automated page which doesn't seem to work.
Obviously a bug's in that site at the moment.
Oh well, you gotta work with what you've got......

For Yamaha TX81Z fans, this will be your main port of call, with everything you need to know (and some things you don't!) all about your fave synth: sounds, editors and workshops:
http://the-all.org/tx81z/index.html

For D50 and D550 owners, I've found that there's a terrific amount of D50 patches on the net. Unfortunately, some sites remove sysex headers and generally mess things up for you.
In fact when trying to load sounds to my D550, even Dumpit's not a happy bunny, but I've found that Midian WILL talk effectively to a D50/550 and dump sounds without needing the handshaking routines.
You'll find Midian here:
http://tamw.atari-users.net/dwnloads.htm

If you can't find an Atari editor for your synth, then don't panic!
You can download sysex files from the net and convert the sound dumps to MIDIfiles.
Mex2Mid is the genius program for this, and you can find downloads here:
http://home.versatel.nl/m.tarenskeen/uni_man.htm
here:
http://www.home.zonnet.nl/m.tarenskeen/yseditor.htm
and here:
http://tamw.atari-users.net/hyart.htm

-so you don't need to be stuck for sounds for your synths, even if there's no Atari ed.
Note however that it's advisable to back up your onboard sounds as a sysex dump to your sequencer so that you don't lose anything.....

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #807449 - 28/01/10 08:52 AM
Thanks to Charlie in the MIDI users group, here's another ftp site with lots of Atari stuff:
ftp://ftp.iem.at/pub/ATARI/

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #807483 - 28/01/10 10:42 AM
Thanks Dave I have just downloaded it to look at later.

Hey....guess what! Great news...I am now a lucky Falcon 030 owner!

It is a stock machine upgraded to 14MB. I've had it two days and not even plugged it in yet, as I have taken it apart to inspect and photograph. It's a German model so I am waiting for some English keycaps to arrive from another forum member elsewhere. I've already put a CompactFlash adapter and a 4GB card in for now, so the only remaining thing to get is a suitable SCSI cable/adapter and then I can plug an IDE drive in via my Acard SCSI->IDE adapter. I assume this should work ok, although having a noisy hard drive means I will need to house it somewhere to make it quiet. Finally I have some Soundpool gear coming shortly but I will need cables and PSUs for those. I'm not really sure where to get these SCSI and DSP cables yet.

I wonder what kind of compression Cubase Audio Falcon uses, i.e. lossy or lossless? I suppose it will be lossy considering the age of the software.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: Neo-Classical Guitar Man]
      #807700 - 28/01/10 11:08 PM
Quote Neo-Classical Guitar Man:


Hey....guess what! Great news...I am now a lucky Falcon 030 owner!

I've had it two days and not even plugged it in yet...




Bad news....I cannot for the life of me get it to boot up to the desktop. Infact I cannot even see the initial bootup screen showing devices connected, stuff loading etc. All I get it a blank white screen; no floppy drive seeking either, so I cannot install any hard disk drivers. I checked the floppy power connector with a multimeter and got a steady 5.02V signal but I cannot say if the ribbon cable is okay yet. I have tried three different floppy drives, plus even plugged the Falcon one into my PC; the drive was seen and made disk access noises; Windows XP then said there was no disk in the drive. The green floppy LED did not light up but I know it works, because later I reversed the ribbon cable to force it on. The hard drive cable in the Falcon seems to work and power the drive, but due to no floppy I cannot put anything on the drive for the Falcon to seek and execute for bootup purposes.

Ahh well....it's an extremely expensive mistake for the time being, but hopefully I can get it working eventually without breaking the bank


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: Neo-Classical Guitar Man]
      #807717 - 29/01/10 12:19 AM
Just a thought, but I remember from my time at Digital Village in 93/94(we were the principal dealers for Falcons) that the memory boards were frequently the cause of many issues, among which was non-booting.. might be worth removing the Expansion board to see if it will boot from base memory..
Many had 4 meg basic as I remembered.. we managed to secure memory boards which used a single 16mb 30 pin sim which were quite successful and better made than the Atari boards.. might be some of those floating around somewhere..

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: Chevytraveller]
      #807737 - 29/01/10 01:34 AM
Thanks I did think of removing it but was not sure if any other RAM was installed. My STEs have SIMMs in sockets and I assumed the Falcon would have socketed RAM...

Are these the very boards you remember (CLICK FOR LARGER 640 x 480 photo)...




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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: Neo-Classical Guitar Man]
      #807760 - 29/01/10 09:26 AM
ah yes.. the lovely Atari memory boards.. the Atari QCing was terrible at the time and almost half of the Falcons we had through were rejected because of this board..
I would have thought the original failings(dry joints etc) would have shown themselves by now, but it's still quite possible that something has failed.
Certainly worth trying to boot it without the board in place..



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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: Neo-Classical Guitar Man]
      #808492 - 01/02/10 03:14 PM
Great news!!! Long story short, it was not the RAM board it was a missing jumper on the motherboard. I was browsing the AtariAge ST Forum and found someone with the same problems as myself. So it now boots up very fast and the floppy works fine too. Boy am I so relieved because I feared a huge repair bill!

If anyone needs to know the solution I will dig it out and post it here; just ask.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #854287 - 18/08/10 09:14 AM
Hi again folks,
I've just come across this free Atari site for developers, that also has some MIDI apps for Roland LA modules:
http://atariforge.org/gf/
and AMIDILIB is here:
http://atariforge.org/gf/project/amidilib/

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #854551 - 19/08/10 09:00 AM
Here's a site that offers an Atari editor for Yamaha SY22 and SY35 synths- look at the bottom of the page for the download link:
http://www.plompy.co.uk/software/

More to come as I find them!

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #854633 - 19/08/10 01:33 PM
Nice find although I personally have a SY55 and TG55.

Earlier today I found this upgrade for the SY series, enabling 1MB of data card storage; you simply have multiple 64Kb RAM areas that you can format individually and put patch data on etc.

SY Upgrade for RAM cards


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #859511 - 06/09/10 02:18 PM
Hi again folks,
here the link to a mirror site containing all the Emagic Atari progs that cover things like Sound diver and Polyframe, amongst others:
ftp://ftp.datavase.info/pub/emagic/SOUNDDIVER/UPDATES/ATARI

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #859973 - 08/09/10 02:25 PM
..and I really can't recall how or why I missed this link:
http://users.telenet.be/tos4ever/atari/prg-ind3.htm

which is the synth section on the 'Ultimate TOS index'
(I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere but I can't think of one at the moment )

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #859975 - 08/09/10 02:36 PM
Hi again gang,
I just noticed that the Atari Korps link mentioned earlier in this thread no longer works; thanks to AMN for the info, they're now here:

http://www.atari-korps.com/

Lots of useful info here.
Best wishes,
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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #860049 - 08/09/10 09:11 PM
And for the newer members of the Atari community (hi there guys and gals! ) here's a link to essential ST software, from those fab folks on the Atari forum (no, not this one, the other one ):

http://bbs.datavase.info/ST_essential/

Midi stuff is in the Music Production Tools section, but there's basically all you need to get (and keep) up and running.
There's more about the list and a great discussion here:

http://www.atari-forum.com./viewtopic.php?f=14&t=16525
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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #872943 - 05/11/10 10:56 AM
And thanks to the guys on the Atari Music Network, here are two links to Atari docs
Just the thing for finding out more about our favourite computers!


http://dev-docs.atariforge.org/
ftp://ftp.datavase.info/atari/DOCS/

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #892953 - 07/02/11 09:41 AM
Here's a link to a free download of the Atari version of Symbolic Composer (V.2.0.1).
This runs in conjunction with Dr.T's KCS:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050116110142/www.mracpublishing.com/download/ SymbolicComposer2.0.1Atari.zip

and should provide fun for KCS fans!

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #906563 - 07/04/11 10:37 AM
Hi folks,
well for the first time in a VERY long time, I've had a problem with my Atari STE
It started hanging up and then finally refused to even load from the desktop. You know the thing -you click on an icon, and absolutely sod all happens
After switching off and waiting for a few minutes (that guarantees that the memory is definitely completely cleared, and you'd be surprised at how often that can clear the odd glitch) the same thing happened again...and again.
It appears that the File Selector has thrown a wobbly.
Now I could be in a real tizz, biting the carpet, thinking of a PC (NO!!!), but I didn't.
I simply swopped my recalcitrant STE with a spare one (I have 4 -well you never know) and I'm back up and running in a trice.
I'll be sending the offender to Barrie fairly soon for an MOT and an oil change.
Moral: now's the time (if you haven't already done so) to invest in a spare Atari ST(E) for those File Selector moments. There's loads of them cheap on Ebay and you never know.....

Best wishes,
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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #906564 - 07/04/11 10:41 AM
I tried to boot up my old STE the other day - the floppy drive has gone all weak and won't read floppies, and my old Atari hard drive (which I was hoping to copy some files off of) doesn't spin up...


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: desmond]
      #906574 - 07/04/11 11:08 AM
Hi Desmond,
you could try one of those floppy drive cleaners (a disk with a mild abrasive and/or cleaning fluid such as isopropyl alcolhol), but your best bet is to see about a replacement floppy drive.
As regards your HD, Barrie is the man who can advise and fix all your problems -he can also retrieve and archive files if you need this.
01925-823334, as usual.

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #906599 - 07/04/11 12:02 PM
Quote David Etheridge:

you could try one of those floppy drive cleaners (a disk with a mild abrasive and/or cleaning fluid such as isopropyl alcolhol), but your best bet is to see about a replacement floppy drive.




In my minor googling around I saw that a common problem on aged Atari's is the floppy drive belt wearing out or corroding, so it might just be that...

Quote David Etheridge:

As regards your HD, Barrie is the man who can advise and fix all your problems -he can also retrieve and archive files if you need this.




Thanks - I need to find out whether it's the drive itself that doesn't work or whether it's just not being powered up by the case electronics (it's a System Solutions MiniS drive). The case electronics do power up the fan so that part is working anyway.

As far as I know it's a standard IDE drive so I'm going to see whether it spins up in a PC. If it doesn't then it's probably beyond recovery...


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #906725 - 07/04/11 10:08 PM
I have three 4160STE and starting to get uncomfortable with the amount of stuff I have acquired, plus the usual grief from the women folk over this! Anyway I have decided that having a few is a wise idea.......so they shall remain!.....For the time being anyway!


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: Neo-Classical Guitar Man]
      #913041 - 08/05/11 07:39 AM
Hi folks,
latest news from Martin Tarenskeen is a bugfix for his YS Editor Program, now on v.2.76.
The is THE editing prog for all 4 op FM instruments from Yamaha:
DX100, DX27, DX27S, DX21, DX11, WT11, TX81Z,
YS100, YS200, B200, TQ5, DS55, and V50 are supported by YSEDITOR PLUS.
(But V50 users are adviced to use the special YSEDITOR V50 version)

FB01 is supported by special YSEDITOR FB01 verion.

Go here for all the gen:
http://www.home.zonnet.nl/m.tarenskeen/yseditor.htm
or:
http://atari.martintarenskeen.nl/

(and you thought that no-one was STILL developing editors? How wrong might you be... )

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #915923 - 24/05/11 01:14 PM
Hi folks,
here's the latest news about ACP (Atari Coldfire Project) FireBee, the next generation in Atari compatible computers. The folks working on it are developing USB connectivity in Freemint.
You can see all the details here:
http://acp.atari.org/

Fascinating stuff -any takers?

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #916436 - 27/05/11 09:11 AM
Quote David Etheridge:

Hi folks,
here's the latest news about ACP (Atari Coldfire Project) FireBee, the next generation in Atari compatible computers. The folks working on it are developing USB connectivity in Freemint.
You can see all the details here:
http://acp.atari.org/

Fascinating stuff




Thanks David, for the hint to our project. "The folks" have even to report some exclusive sound issues regarding the FireBee.

Sound hardware is integrated, the big tasks are done already. Internal sound driver (falcon compatible) and AC'97 are done mainly. Recording works well. MP3 playback with Aniplayer is possible with only 22 % (!) CPU load (without a DSP - the 56001 is not finished recently).

The YM2149 works well (also out over AC'97 - and Falcon compatible), and first applications were tested successfully (no MIDI was tested right now), without any errors are for example; "MIDI Arpeggiator" a mini analogue-style MIDI sequencer, "Snippit Synth" a software-based sound synthesizer, "Squash it!" a sample processor, "Sound Chip Synth" (MiniMOO) a real-time synthesizer, "Soundigit" an AIF/WAV HD-Recorder/Player/Editor, or the well known "Aniplayer".

Thats important for me, because I like you to know we are not doing "only" a FreeMiNT machine. Many users demand as well a well working TOS computer. So FireTOS (A for ColdFire Processors adapted Falcon 4.04 TOS) gets ongoing several improvements. We are highly aware, that audio tasks are still a big part of "Atari-Computing". Thats why we are for example glad that we got the Soundpool owner on board as advisor as well.


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #930612 - 27/07/11 11:56 AM
Hi again folks,
here a link I've just found to another floppy drive emulator using SD cards:
http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html

You'll notice that the range is available for a wide variety of supposedly obsolete computers (including Atari of course ) but also a wide range of floppies fitted to synths and samplers.
Scroll down through the list to see if your fave vintage synth is there.
(Apologies to NCGM if I'm posting info he's already placed here, 'cos I haven't checked and I know that he is our resident expert of this kind of gear )

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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #930670 - 27/07/11 02:09 PM
Haha! I bought one of these interfaces via Ebay early last year, but not used it yet. I will be upgrading the firmware before I do, as at the time I asked the maker to write a file browser for the ST and two weeks later it was in the new firmware to download! This was later carried over into the Amstrad CPC which I also own, so the maker definitely listens to his buyers.

There is also someone else who has made an interface, that can backup any disk even if faulty I think! KryoFlux web page

More info

KryoFlux and HxC Floppy Emulator in action together with EMU Emulator 1 keyboard

HxC Floppy Emulator SD version with EMU Emulator 1 & 2


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #963454 - 12/01/12 08:41 AM
Hi gang,
another new year and we're still humming along as ever!
I don't know how I missed this link -another U.K. Atari site who offer info and some products for Ataris:
http://st-freakz.co.uk/index.html

Enjoy!

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      #963568 - 12/01/12 12:41 PM
Yeah he is a good guy with a good track record and he responds to emails quickly too.



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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #970617 - 17/02/12 12:28 PM
Atari in 2012.
Hi folks,
It’s been a while since I last looked through the Atari scene, and as I found that quite a few of the sites mentioned previously have gone to the great website in the sky, I thought it might be a suitable time to update this FAQ with the current state of the Atari scene in 2012.

First of all, there’s still plenty going on here:

http://www.atari-forum.com/ the most active Atari forum on the net, covering hard and software, pro apps, games, MIDI and much more. The members here have an unrivalled range of knowledge and expertise.
http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php/ -a smaller, but still active forum on all aspects of Atari usage.
https://sites.google.com/site/stessential/ -a collection of Essential software for the Atari user, as discussed on Atari-forum.com

http://tamw.atari-users.net/ The late Tim Conrardy’s famous MIDI site, with articles and downloads on Atari progs and libraries.
ftp://ftp.pigwa.net/stuff/collections/atari_forever/www-magazines/MyAtari. net/32/astudio.htm -the My Atari mag site showing the article describing Tim’s MIDI studio.
http://www.atarimusic.net/ A site originally set up as a replacement in case Tim’s Atari MIDI world was taken down (it hasn’t as yet) and has become much more, featuring progs, articles, discussion and archives, plus much more
http://www.notator.org/index.html

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/atari-midi/ currently with 1216 members as of today, recent discussions have included integrating your ST back into your MIDI setup, amongst much more
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atari-midi-archives/ excellent and essential archive for all MIDI users -over 800 members as of early 2012

http://gem.win.co.nz/hall/ -The famous Atari Launchpad. Not updated for many years now, but still with many links to extant sites
http://info-coach.fr/atari/links.php -a particularly useful site, including progs, apps and ftp sites. May be a little out of date, as are many Atari sites these days!
http://www.1632systems.co.uk/Templates/Links.htm - a slightly smaller collection of links.

http://www.notator.org/ The Notator users site and discussion forum, still humming along nicely!

Stockists and repairs:
http://www.keychange.co.uk/ The irrepressible Barrie, who keep us all running!
http://st-freakz.co.uk/index.html Highly regarded by users.
http://www.1632systems.co.uk/ another good source of bits and bobs.
http://myatari.net/ -the last resting place of MyAtari magazine. Many useful MIDI articles in there.

Some software sites for upgrading your ST:
http://www.seimet.de/atari/en/hddriver.html
http://rainer-seitel.onlinehome.de/bigdos.html
http://dev-docs.atariforge.org/ -Atari document archive

FTP collections and software downloads:
ftp://ftp.iem.at/pub/ATARI/
http://www-ftp.lip6.fr/ftp/pub/atari/Music/
http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/atari/
http://www.datavase.info/FTPserver/
http://www.jaapan.de/en/uptodate.php?page=multi_midi
http://atari.la-belle-aurore.com/sequencers.html-rather moribund and no updates since 2009.
http://users.telenet.be/tos4ever/atari/prg-ind3.htm -the ultimate TOS software index.
http://www.8bitchip.info/atari/ -useful stuff on hard drives and TOS chips amongst much more.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/backroom/MIDI.HTM -Backroom boys Atari MIDI software: a small collection.

And that’s all for now folks!

Unless you know different, of course.......

Best wishes,
Dave


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #971755 - 23/02/12 12:25 AM
Thanks Dave! I'll add some more if and when I think of them.



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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #1026254 - 29/12/12 04:23 PM
Hi folks,
here's another essential site for all Atarians: the Atari-forum WIKI:
http://www.atari-forum.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

Look under the Applications section for essential stuff: copiers, antivirus progs, HD drivers galore and CD-ROM drivers. Most of them are free!

Enjoy!

Best wishes,
Dave


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Re: FAQs for all Atarians new [Re: David Etheridge]
      #1037429 - 10/03/13 08:39 PM
I wish I could contribute here without incurring the wrath of the SOS staff, e.g. by posting links to non-free software, even though most of it is long gone and forgotten about even by the authors


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