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Re: Changing gear... new [Re: BigAl]
      #1029828 - 22/01/13 10:45 PM
Quote BigAl:


My biggest issue in using a computer for recording is how much faffing around will I be doing when tracking?




That's why it is important to use an interface with good solid drivers and a decent reliable DAW.

My personal recommendation would be an RME interface with Reaper. I use a relatively simple RME 9636 card with ADAT inputs which has worked fine for me for around 10 years. I also use a real mixing desk which makes it dead easy to set up monitor mixes without faffing around on the PC - although the newer RME control panel should be good for this sort of thing too.

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Re: Changing gear... new [Re: James Perrett]
      #1030131 - 24/01/13 01:37 PM
Thanks James.
I'm in two minds at the moment.
I like being hands-on, especially for tracking, but could handle mixing on the computer.
How's the latency with the RME stuff? Do any of them work in standalone mode?

Anybody know what are the pre-amps like on the Fireface range?

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Edited by BigAl (24/01/13 02:42 PM)


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Re: Changing gear... new [Re: BigAl]
      #1030161 - 24/01/13 03:16 PM
Some have issues with RME pre amps, I don't make music that requires them so can't comment, but based on the recent SOS shoot out it seems that most pre-amps are barely distiguishable against each other.

RME Fireface works in standalone mode, once you have it set up correctly and I frequently use mine that way when listening to my turntable. Drivers are solid, even when you disconnect another FW device it locks back in after a few seconds (previous interfaces have dropped out completely).

AD quality is very good as well on my FF800.

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Re: Changing gear... new [Re: Richie Royale]
      #1030190 - 24/01/13 05:08 PM
Cheers Richie.

Anyone recommend other decent interfaces?
I only need a couple of mic inputs, couple of line, coax s/pdif would be nice as would adat for expansion.
USB or firewire?
I can cheap TC units but they are firewire.

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Re: Changing gear... new [Re: BigAl]
      #1030195 - 24/01/13 05:38 PM
Quote BigAl:

Cheers Richie.

Anyone recommend other decent interfaces?
I only need a couple of mic inputs, couple of line, coax s/pdif would be nice as would adat for expansion.
USB or firewire?
I can cheap TC units but they are firewire.


GOT to say "NI KA6 innit!" Everything on that list except ADAT. I have looked on the NI site and they do not make a big brother to the 6 (with ADAT). I reckon if they did and kept the Six's fabulosity they would clean up.

Dave.


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Re: Changing gear... new [Re: BigAl]
      #1030213 - 24/01/13 06:32 PM
RME Fireface 800 here for ages with Macs/Logic. Accurate sound; good interface.

Oh yes, software. Apple Logic is good value. I like the workflow (needs some learning!) and the bundled plugs are good. worth a look at, Logic. I'm still on v8, never felt the need to go to the latest version yet!

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Re: Changing gear... new [Re: Guy Johnson]
      #1030395 - 25/01/13 01:42 PM
With software plug-ins, how many can you realistically run on for 16 track song (for example).
EQ, compression on every channel, reverb, delay and a couple of other FX...

...with a half decent PC?

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Re: Changing gear... new [Re: BigAl]
      #1030397 - 25/01/13 01:48 PM
Quote BigAl:

With software plug-ins, how many can you realistically run on for 16 track song (for example).
EQ, compression on every channel, reverb, delay and a couple of other FX...

...with a half decent PC?



Twice as many as on a 1/4 decent pc.

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Re: Changing gear... new [Re: BigAl]
      #1030399 - 25/01/13 01:51 PM
Quote BigAl:

With software plug-ins, how many can you realistically run on for 16 track song (for example).
EQ, compression on every channel, reverb, delay and a couple of other FX...





Just about any PC made in the last 10 years should handle that if you are using Reaper - certainly my 8 year old budget Acer laptop can. Certain reverbs and modelling effects can be very processor hungry but normal eq's and compressors take very little processing power.

And to answer your previous question about interfaces, take a look at the RME Babyface if you want ADAT. If you don't want ADAT then the Alva Nanoface looks interesting - there's a review in this month's magazine.

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Re: Changing gear... new [Re: James Perrett]
      #1030409 - 25/01/13 02:17 PM
Cheers James.
I'm getting a new laptop next week so I'll be able to try it out. I don't do lots of 'fancy' plug-in stuff.
For faffing around, I was even considering a simple, two channel line / digital IN unit and use my current two channel mic preamp.
Ideally, a laptop and interface would be ideal, although I would like decent preamps (2-4).
I have a Presonus MP20 which I could still use but I have no idea how good or bad the preamps are in all these sound interfaces.
While asking about the Presonus VSL units, the Presonus guys advised me to keep the MP20 as it was better. How much better, I have no idea.

If I bought a dual or qad core i5 or i7 PC with 8GB - 16GB RAM and an SSD, we're fine?

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Edited by BigAl (25/01/13 02:17 PM)


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