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Good God, people, find something worth complaining about. Look around you; this is nothing!

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complaining about people complaining seems a really odd pastime to me .. listen to YOUR selves for god sake think what youre typing about before you type.

it was a completely genuine and worthwhile thing to post about in the first place, some of us dont like to see kids (or images of kids) used as sex objects ... what is wrong with that ?

this thread would have faded out after dolphin came in and said their piece except for all the people who came in afterwards desperate to show how 'liberated' they are, they never complain about anything !!!!

grainger

Just for the record, I am not "PC". I do not agree with the conservative views of that particular movement. I would venture to say that none of the other objectors are either. The healthy debate has largely left this thread at this stage.

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Good God, people, find something worth complaining about. Look around you; this is nothing!

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complaining about people complaining seems a really odd pastime to me .. listen to YOUR selves for god sake think what youre typing about before you type.

it was a completely genuine and worthwhile thing to post about in the first place, some of us dont like to see kids (or images of kids) used as sex objects ... what is wrong with that ?

this thread would have faded out after dolphin came in and said their piece except for all the people who came in afterwards desperate to show how 'liberated' they are, they never complain about anything !!!!

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hear hear. seems some people want to add their two pence to show how cool/media-savvy/rock'n'roll they are

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seems some people want to add their two pence to show how cool/media-savvy/rock'n'roll they are

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so whats that then? isn't that your two pence worth, to show how above-all-this you are?


pfffft !

you really do all want to be ashamed of yourselves. really.




Mr. Gilby, when will you be starting the christian fundamentalist/frothing moron/ daily mail readers forum area? clearly the market is crying out for it.

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it should be perfectly clear to all but those of the meanest intelligence that the girl was in no way under age. it would require stupidity of a quite breathtaking level to think otherwise.

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The one ad that actually annoys me running at this moment is the HP sauce one.. Stupidly small thing but it just gets to me..

When was the last time you visited a chippie/burger van/ greasy cafe that actually had genuine HP/ Daddys sauce?? , or for that matter Heinz Ketchup.


Its always that insipid vinegar dyed red/brown they buy in bulk from catering warehouses.

As for the Dolphin ad.. well its better than that one that ran for years with a gimp of a bloke grinning inanely at the camera hands carefully placed on the mixing desk with its faders arranged in a neat smiley pattern

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I noticed the ad last month - thought it was a bit tacky but certainly didn't find it offensive - there are hundreds of companies pulling the same tricks.

I get a copy of one of the larger Bi-Weekly Trade Only computer magazines and if you were offended by the Dolphin ad then you should see the scantily clad women who endorse products such as generic Taiwanese motherboards.

I'll be the first to admit that it's slightly insulting to my/our intelligence, but ultimately I'd rather look at that ad than pages of nice gear (that I can see anywhere else in the mag) with "£POA" or "Phone for Best Price!" emblazoned all over - does that make me a bad person?!?

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so whats that then? isn't that your two pence worth, to show how above-all-this you are?


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no, because i already said i thought the ad was stupid and this was a good post. i was talking about the people who had nothing to say about the ad per se - they just wanted to bash the people who found it offensive/tacky

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it should be perfectly clear to all but those of the meanest intelligence that the girl was in no way under age.

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It should be perfectly clear to all but those of the meanest intelligence that this debate does not centre around whether or not she was actually under-age.

Hell, if they used a granny image from Getty Images™, sucking a lolly pop, with the title "Good head for music", I'd probably have thrown up, or at least have a bad taste in my mouth.

Still wouldn't be less crass.

Can we end this thread now please, and move on from our socially aware viewpoints.

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it should be perfectly clear to all but those of the meanest intelligence that the girl was in no way under age. it would require stupidity of a quite breathtaking level to think otherwise.

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and stupidity of a quite breathtaking level not to read the post you quoted ... IMAGES OF KIDS ... ie insinuating it was a kid . .. if you think ANY of us thought it was a real schoolkid, you must be very sad and mentally incapable

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Can we end this thread now please, and move on from our socially aware viewpoints.

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yes please, im sorry i ever replied to it in the first place now ..

grainger

I'll tell you a worse ad in SOS than the Dolphin Music one (for the right reasons):-

Carillon. (I've posted this before but is relevant to this thread).
In their advert they say they have a "restore" program option which restores an image file form a partition on the disk (like Ghost or drive image) to restore your PC to its former glory "should the worst happen".
Now that IS a bad ad.

Q:The worst thing which can happen to a PC?
Answers on a postcard please....

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i thought it was a pathetic advert which would dissuade me from buying from there more than anything, but i'm pleased to see Dolphin have taken comments on board and have changed the ad - nice one.

reminds me of that other ad which has a women walking naked down the street (er, i think it was SOS). what a crap ad...

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QUOTE:"would dissuade me from buying from there more than anything"

Do you buy anyone's goods at all?

Many companies tell blatant lies on their adverts (Microsoft is a major culprit) and I use that as a way of judging companies rather than the harmless Dolphin advert. However, I don't ignore companies completely if an advert offends me, although telling blatant lies is unacceptable in my book.
If Dolphin music changed it's name ot "Goat Music", you could offend any religeous group who sees the goat as sacred.
Personally I don't get it at all.

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eh? er yes, i buy goods from stores...

just though the ad was pathetic - not offensive.

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And if Dolphin Music offered you a U87 for 200 quid you'd obviously tell them where to stick it?

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Forget the U 87 - what about a used lolly??

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Forget the U 87 - what about a used lolly??

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depends what it had been used for

grainger

Yes, it does depend!

Just had a thought about their next ad. Will email them now.

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If Dolphin music changed it's name ot "Goat Music", you could offend any religeous group who sees the goat as sacred.

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Yeah, especially if they had a picture in the ad of a goat sucking a lollipop. Mmmmmm....

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I wanna see the ad for Dickinson Guitars,on second thought maybe not.

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That's right, that's tight - the product is called 'The Goat of Mendez' and the ad's tagline is 'Feeling Horny?'....

Hi Guys

What a post! Lots for us to take on board and all I can say is watch out for future dolphin adverts in SOS.

I would like to share some feedback I got from the designer who was a little disapointed by the response:

"Nobody seemed to get the irony or the point of the ad.
i.e. You don't have to be a young blonde to be a good/successful musician, it was meant to be a nod and a wink to your 'erudite' audience, who 'should know better'. They mustn't have read the substantiating bodycopy - just the headline."

I will leave it at that for now, if anybody would like to contact me about this issue or anything related to Dolphin Music please do so.

Regards

Rob Williams
Dolphin Music

Tel: 0870 840 9060
Email: rob@dolphinmusic.co.uk
Web: http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk

Any U87's for 200 quid?

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Sorry mate, all sold out. They flew off the shelves at that price.

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i.e. You don't have to be a young blonde to be a good/successful musician, it was meant to be a nod and a wink to your 'erudite' audience, who 'should know better'. They mustn't have read the substantiating bodycopy - just the headline."

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ha i see now .. it was ironic oh well that explains it ... good HEAD for music ... we just thought it was something to do with oral sex and schoolkids. so it had NOTHING to do with oral sex then ? or children ? and your designer thinks we 'should know better' ? .. thats ok then.

damn i wish i was a bit more 'erudite'

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ha i see now .. it was ironic oh well that explains it ... good HEAD for music ... we just thought it was something to do with oral sex and schoolkids. so it had NOTHING to do with oral sex then ? or children ? and your designer thinks we 'should know better' ? .. thats ok then.

damn i wish i was a bit more 'erudite'

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ha i see now .. it was ironic oh well that explains it ... good HEAD for music ... we just thought it was something to do with oral sex and schoolkids. so it had NOTHING to do with oral sex then ? or children ? and your designer thinks we 'should know better' ? .. thats ok then.

damn i wish i was a bit more 'erudite'

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Grainger speak for yourself, you miserable tosser.

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"Nobody seemed to get the irony or the point of the ad.
i.e. You don't have to be a young blonde to be a good/successful musician, it was meant to be a nod and a wink to your 'erudite' audience, who 'should know better'. They mustn't have read the substantiating bodycopy - just the headline."

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The substantianting bodycopy reads: "You need a little more than just raw talent to make it in the music industry these days. At Dolphin Music you can get a lot more for your lolly for all your music making needs and when it comes to great service, we've got others licked" (ooo matron!!)


Can you clarify (for a less than erudite reader) whether or not I get a BJ from a school girl (albeit over 15) if I buy something from you?

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Grainger speak for yourself, you miserable tosser.

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i wouldnt dream i was doing otherwise you humourless prick

lots of offence

grainger

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i wouldnt dream i was doing otherwise you humourless prick

lots of offence

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Argh, a mortal wound - if only I had been more egotistically conservative this would never have happened...

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Come on guys! Too much bitchin already!

... and people say thats its women that are the bitchy ones!


I reckon Dolphin should run a competition in SOS for someone to design their next add... bet it couldnt cause so much controversy...! You could give free lollypops to the runners up!

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Hi Guys

What a post! Lots for us to take on board and all I can say is watch out for future dolphin adverts in SOS.

I would like to share some feedback I got from the designer who was a little disapointed by the response:

"Nobody seemed to get the irony or the point of the ad.
i.e. You don't have to be a young blonde to be a good/successful musician, it was meant to be a nod and a wink to your 'erudite' audience, who 'should know better'. They mustn't have read the substantiating bodycopy - just the headline."

I will leave it at that for now, if anybody would like to contact me about this issue or anything related to Dolphin Music please do so.

Regards

Rob Williams
Dolphin Music

Tel: 0870 840 9060
Email: rob@dolphinmusic.co.uk
Web: http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk

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Oh good, it was ironic. Next time, can we see her arse please ?

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I would like to share some feedback I got from the designer who was a little disapointed by the response:

"Nobody seemed to get the irony or the point of the ad.
i.e. You don't have to be a young blonde to be a good/successful musician, it was meant to be a nod and a wink to your 'erudite' audience, who 'should know better'. They mustn't have read the substantiating bodycopy - just the headline."

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A hilarious explanation! You are firing this guy, right?

The ad director is admitting that no-one in his target audience got the point of the ad! Basic business sense would seem to preclude giving any repeat business to such a moron, surely? (Quite apart from the advert itself, which was clearly thought up by someone of severely limited imagination.)

Yeah, I concede that that explanation was quite funny.

However, when was the last time Dolphin were as talked about on this forum? If you wouldn't buy from a company on the basis of a crap ad alone then you really ought to have a word with yourself.



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Mr. DiBergi your reply to grAlnger was totally out of hand.

I probably fall into the exact target audience yet the advert actually actively put me off buying from Dolphin as not only did it offend me (not because she was trying to look like a kid) but because in every way the advert tried to appeal to me, it directly played against anything that actually does turn me on. And to reliterate:

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. It also made me instantly associate Dolphin Music as yet another distriubtor aimed at the low end of the market. However much they try to cover up their blantent intentions of appealing to those who think working in the music proffesion will get them laid more often, this was certainly the vibe I recieved fromt the advert and the fact that I saw this in SOS deeply pissed me off. SOS has mostly managed to keep away from such rubbish advertising. Forget subliminal advertising. Start genuinely advertising and perhaps I may find a reason to further investigate!!

However, Rob's swift apology has done much to counter the bad vibes I got from the advert, though the new ad is not much better.

Bazza, it's not that I'm not going to buy from them on the basis of the advert. It's that the advert has given me no reason whatsoever to buy from them.

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Fair enough mate I wouldn't buy from them on the basis of that ad either, however, I'm aware of who they are now rather than being just another one of the web advertisers at the back of SOS.

If this thread carries on it could be the equivalent of Mike Reed banning "Relax" by Frankie Goes to Hollywood and spawn a new generation of [ ****** ] T Shirts! Bring it on I say!

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Are they trying for the Jackson vibe?

http://www.jacksonguitars.com/whatshot/jenna_jpgs/jenna2_large.jpg

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And what's more... I don't believe she's fretting that chord.

what an outstanding thread - soft porn, abusive posts being fired off, offence being taken, posts from a real retailer, oh boy is this great.

ads like the one in question cause me to exhale heavily, before turning the page sharp-ish in case my wife or my daughters catch me looking at it.

whereas ads which consist of lots of little thumbnails of gear, with prices attached, will have me ogling and slavering for ages.

but then i am quite old.