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#512577 - 02/09/07 08:27 PM
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Dave Greenfield of the Stranglers, Michael Cotton ex of The Tubes.
Cotton isnt
a whizz with the fingers, but as a synth player [which to me means things that go
wooooosh] he''s a master.
I say those because to me the synth is for synthy
sounds, not copying real instuments, you have to be out there and make up your own sounds
imho, and these boys are 'out there'.
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#512595 - 02/09/07 09:20 PM
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For 'technique', Jan Hammer, George Duke, Peter Robinson (various), Robin Lumley ('Brand
X'), Dave Stewart (not the one from 'The Eurythmics' but from 'Hatfield And The North' and
sometimes SOS contributor), Pete Bardens (Camel), Jordan Rudess ('Dream Theatre')
But for people who 'play' synths, Walter/Wendy Carlos, Isao Tomita, Larry Fast
I'm suspecting your after 'funkier' synthists though
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#512599 - 02/09/07 09:26 PM
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Quote hollowsun: For 'technique',
Jan Hammer,...
For me the
interesting thing about Jan Hammer is that with Mahavishnu his playing was superb,
but when he came to compose Miami Vice he really toned it down, eg. Crocketts Theme.
To me this higlights one of the main features of EM : not incpoporating
other styles overtly.
E.g someone playing straght Jazz on synths doesnt make it
Electronic Music for me. It makes it Jazz on synths.
But if they incorporated Jazz
elements,flourishes, snippets into an electronic tapestry then this transforms into EM,
for me anyway.
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#512602 - 02/09/07 09:34 PM
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Quote table for two: For me the
interesting thing about Jan Hammer is that with Mahavishnu his playing was superb, but when he came to compose Miami Vice he really toned it down, eg. Crocketts Theme.
I don't disagree but he got that
'guitar technique' really sorted, starting off with just the MiniMoog but taking it beyond
(especially in his work with Neal Schon where they traded licks). I liked a lot of the MV
stuff - had a certain 'glossy sheen' that a lot of incidental music doesn't have and which
I think was an important factor in the series' success).
At the risk of this
turning into a synthy game of Mornington Crescent, I give you.....
Brian Peter
George St. John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno
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#512605 - 02/09/07 09:42 PM
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Quote hollowsun: he got that
'guitar technique' really sorted, starting off with just the MiniMoog but taking it beyond
(especially in his work with Neal Schon where they traded licks).
I remember watching Rock School years
back, now that was a program and a half,
in which JH demonstrated how he got his
signature guitar sound.
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#512655 - 03/09/07 06:55 AM
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Yes! Joe Zawinul!!!! A great player, not only technique-wise but sound-wise too. He once
said that Herbie Hancock is a great player, but he remains a piano player, he plays a
synth sound the same way he plays the piano. Zawinul himself though plays the sound, so he
adapts his playing style to the sound he's playing. The man sure got an ego the size of a
house! He even claims to have invented "the hiphop beat"... I have seen him live, and
he played his famous reverse keyboard setup : one keyboard going from left to right >
low-high, and another keyboard angled with it going right to left, so from either
keyboard, closer to the corner means higher on the keyboard.
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#512656 - 03/09/07 06:56 AM
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Quote hollowsun:
Quote Stevedog: likewise the
guy from PFM..
Flavio Premoli -
indeed. Damned fine band PFM. Still going strong it seems!
While we are on the subject of 70s italian
prog-rock... Area - Patrizio Fariselli
Truely amazing synth work! In fact
all the musicians in Area were absoultely amazing... But stay away from some of the
live recordings if you're not a dedicated fan, the sound isn't good. These are all
great:
1973 - Arbeit Macht Frei (Cramps, CRSLP 5101) 1974 - Caution
Radiation Area (Cramps, CRSLP 5102)) 1974 - CRAC! (Cramps, CRSLP 5103)) 1975 -
Are(A)zione (Cramps, CRSLP 5104)) 1976 - Maledetti (maudits) (Cramps, CRSLP 5105)) 1977 - Anto/Logicamente (Cramps) - collection 1978 - Gli dei se ne vanno, gli
arrabbiati restano! (Ascolto, ASC 20063)
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#512657 - 03/09/07 06:58 AM
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Malcolm Cecil and the modular Moog T.O.N.T.O.
Malcolm’s keyboard, programming and engineering skills were used by: Stevie
Wonder, Quincy Jones, Bobby Womack, The Isley Brothers, Gil Scott-Heron and Weather
Report, as well as releases from Steve Stills, The Doobie Brothers, Dave Mason, Little
Feat and Joan Baez, among others.
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#512762 - 03/09/07 10:57 AM
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Call me old-fashioned, but few things make me smile more broadly than hearing Billy Currie
"let rip" on one of his über-modulated ARP Odyssey solos - a bit of swept oscillator
sync, a bit of ring mod, a bit of fuzzpedal, and glorious fluid portamento...
sometimes elegaic, fluid and soaring (e.g. "ASTRADYNE" on Ultravox's 'Vienna'), sometimes just (to quote Warran Cann) blowing your brains out and smashing them against
the back wall of the venue (e.g. Ultravox's "THE MAN WHO DIES EVERYDAY" - I have a bootleg
of that live in the Marquee 1978, it's insane!)
Other showcases for his skills
included his stint on Gary Numan's "Touring Principle" on 1979, where he let rip in "On
Broadway", "Remember I was Vapour", "Everyday I Die" and others.
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#512815 - 03/09/07 12:28 PM
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Rick Wright of Pink Floyd???
All those lovely Dark side of the Moon synth
moments? And the start of Wish You Were Here is just pure synth heaven. On every Floyd
album there is a synth moment that is just breathtaking in its simplicity and
perfection.
And I'd like to add Gary Numan too. He made the synth angry, when
for so long it had been polite!
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Quote ThunderBall: RICK WAKEMAN
I've always classed Rick as a
pianist/keyboards player of which synths are one of the things he uses ... and not very
well in my eyes - same old hackneyed MiniMoog sounds, etc..
Great bloke
though - funny guy. Anyone who can eat a curry live on stage amidst the vegetarian
pretentiousness of Yes's stadium prog rock has gotta have something going for him!
Terrific player as well.
And I'll put my cards on the table now - I don't
really rate Keith Emerson either, especially on synth ... nor Tony Banks even though
Genesis were possibly my fave band when I was a yoof.... all of them great pianists or
organists with some cheesy and uninspiring synth work.
But thanks for
reminding me of Richard Barbieri - some stunning synth work on the later 'Japan'
albums.
We also seem to have forgotten the Teutonic synth-meisters ... from
Kling Klang, ladies and gentlemen.....
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#512892 - 03/09/07 02:30 PM
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Quote table for two:
Quote hollowsun: he got that
'guitar technique' really sorted, starting off with just the MiniMoog but taking it beyond
(especially in his work with Neal Schon where they traded licks).
I remember watching Rock School years back,
now that was a program and a half, in which JH demonstrated how he got his signature
guitar sound.
I've got that on VHS and recently transfered it onto DVD. I'd like to find more episodes
because although they are a bit cheesy or funny, I love seeing the old gear in action and
it brings back memories of that era. So far I only have the first three episodes in full
and the fourth partially.
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#512928 - 03/09/07 03:23 PM
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+1 for Rick Wakeman.
I've stood in the wings of one of his shows and actually
watched him play. Up until then, I liked what he did but didn't get why people rate him so
much. But to actually _see_ it close up and realise just how darned good he is was mind
numbing. It wasn't just that the playing was flash, it was so perfectly played - even on a
ropey old (lowest note priority) Minimoog.
What's more, Oliver and Adam (his
eldest sons) are not so shabby either. Adam is well known for some excellent rock stuff
and Oliver has all his dad's skill, but more taste to go with it. Awesomely good and a top
bloke (and a mate actually).
HoJo has seriously lost the plot in the last few
years - he broke my heart by playing an awful 'electric' gig in Reading on my birthday. It
should have been a real treat, it ended up being pants... Still handy on the ivories
though.
Thankfully, TMDR still has it!
Tasteful playing of massed
synths in a rock and roll band? Think Richard Tandy of ELO ... My all time hero.
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#513155 - 03/09/07 08:05 PM
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Allen Ravenstine of Pere Ubu is where the instrument stops for me.
If you want
to go back further and include people who made great music with the instrument rather than
just great players, and depending on whether you classify electronic music-making machines
generally as synthesizers, I would suggest Raymond Scott and Bruce Haack.
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#513161 - 03/09/07 08:17 PM
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Here's an interesting one: Ken Hensley.
He introduced me to the tortured
noises a (Moog I think) synthesiser could make. Very 'eavy and (indeed) very 'umble.
Especially for the time... but even so he has worn rather well.
I never heard
the like again until some young spotty bloke from Basildon bought my SH-101 and made me
wish I wasn't selling it. It was as though he had found an extra knob marked "scream".
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Just one more, a notable mention from me! Marvin Gaye. His playing on The Trouble Man
soundtrack as well as I Want You, in particular After the Dance (instrumental)is very
funky!
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There's this absolute m-f'er named Barry Miles. Full name, Barry Miles Silverlite. OMG
this guy can rip. I worked in a studio where he was a session musician, and also worked on
his solo albums.
Unfortunately, I never took the time to explore his works,
but I can tell you about one amazing record he is on, which I enjoyed as a teen-ager,
years before even meeting him: Al DiMeola's Land Of the Midnite Sun. There's this song,
"Suite, Golden Dawn" in which Barry puts a Hurtin on the mini-moog. He got that b&^%$
screaming! Especially one part where the song fades out and comes blasting back. Man, this
dude can play.
He is also quite tasteful on piano. I know at one point he
was musical director for Roberta Flack, and one concert reviewer said that his solo was
the hilight of the show.
Plus as a man, he is a gem. Very cool, very humble,
quiet, laid back. No running his mouth, he lets his fingers do the big talking.
His brother Terry Silverlite is an accomplished drummer, having worked with people such
as Billy Ocean
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Oh yeah, Pete Townshend. Surprised nobody mentioned him. Amazing guitar work
notwithstanding. He was def.a pioneer in sequenced synth parts integrated into rock. Long
before anyone else did it
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Quote Stephen Bennett: Also,
though it's pre-synthesiser, Louis Barron and Bebe Barron's soundtrack for 'Forbidden
Planet'
Absolutely.
In
that case then, Morton Subotnik "Silver Apples Of The Moon".
And let's not
forget some of the output of our own venerable Radiophonic Workshop and early UK pioneers
such as Daphne Oram, Delia Derbyshire, Tristram Carey, Peter Zinovieff and others.
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Quote hollowsun:
And let's
not forget some of the output of our own venerable Radiophonic Workshop and early UK
pioneers such as Daphne Oram, Delia Derbyshire, Tristram Carey, Peter Zinovieff and
others.
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Quote hollowsun:
Quote Ronnie Wibbley: No-one
mentioned Todd Rundgren yet?
True
but wasn't Moogy Klingman the knobbage man with him?
Probably (I think the nickname could be giving us a clue there)
but as far as I know on his earlier albums it was basically him doing all the instruments
himself, hence the reference. And remember, he was Born To Synthesize...
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Quote Ronnie Wibbley: as far as I
know on his earlier albums it was basically him doing all the instruments himself, hence
the reference. And remember, he was Born To Synthesize...
Fair enough. But I remember a live album I used to
own where someone was playing a rather large Moog modular that was credited as Mr
Klingman.
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the guy from pink floyd ,i think ,is a great player.i also like the hammond player from
the band. also the guy that plays keys in gong i think is amazing.i was at the gong
un-convention in amsterdam last year and havnt been able to stop listening to gong since
then..
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Larry Fast, especially his Cords album when he was doing the Synergy stuff. Very impressive
considering the state of the art when Cords came out (late 70s I think)