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but I can totally spot a good tune from a bad one

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Umm I'm not so sure about that...

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Milkshake - from Kelis - is a great track

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You can't be serious...Are you talking strictly on instrumental merits here or the whole track?? That is possibly one of the worst songs I have ever heard and only contributes to the pile of garbage out there. The only thing worse is her follow up single with Too Short whatever that was called.

Narcoman I used to have faith in your posts and what you said, now I am starting to question everything...haha JK Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however that is not one I would be openly admitting to if I were you...lol

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hehe..

One of the things you have to be able to do in this job is appreciate music in all genres - I admit, I'm not a typical punter - but I like acts from most genres - well, not techno and the like, but certainly in most others. Not all acts, you understand, but good acts in many genres.

Now - whether you decide that my opinions and advice aren't worth listening to based on me thinking some RnB tracks are good is neither here nor there.

"Milkshake" - it's a good track.... Neptunes are fine producers and really know how to pull those kind of tones together. Let me express it another way - in pop, Kelis' "milkshake" is good, Mika's "Grace Kelly" on the other hand, I find poo. Neither is as good as the Dirtbombs "Chains of Love" ..... oh yes. Or practically anything by Gustav Mahler.

For me obviously.


and to be a little smug - I'm pretty sure I can spot a good tune from a bad one. Otherwise I'd be broke.

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Quote Narcoman:.....I am willing to bet that you CAN"T (even if you wanted to, which I'm sure you don't !!)) put together an RnB or hip hop sample based track that fans of that genre would accept. It's out of your ability's jurisdiction!

And I'm more than willing to take that bet. What stakes did you have in mind?

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I was speaking to Tui. His forte (from what I gather ) is in orchestral composition and/or swing bands.

I don't think taking bets is a legitimate use of a forum, but if you want to PM me we can discuss it.

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It's what our western culture has become - faking it, imitating it, copying it, outright stealing it... If Steve Wonder or the Beatles or anyone with some talent would have acted that way, we'd still be listening to hillbilly music and German marching bands (and trust me, I know what *they* sound like).

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Listen to I'm Down by the Beatles and Long Tall Sally by Little Richard. Harrison got sued for infringement for My Sweet Lord as did Lennon for Come Together. This is older than you think.

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I was speaking to Tui. His forte (from what I gather ) is in orchestral composition and/or swing bands.

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You have so absolutely no idea who I am or what I do, yet you make those assumptions?

Swing bands? Good grief. I occasionally play drums at our local jazz club, but that's about it. FYI, I write and produce anything from acoustic, pop, crossover/world, radio jingles, music for DVD... And sometimes I play Scarlatti on the piano.

Don't make assumptions. That really makes you look bad.

hence the "from what i gather"


your biog states "career as bigband etc drummer"..... I took this to be he truth.

"career" is a little different to "dabbles in local jazz act"

That career happened 20 years ago. Since then, I had about 5 new lives in different continents. Perhaps I need to update my bio.

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Buddy, that career happened 20 years ago. Since then, I had about 5 different lives in different continents.

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1. I aint your "buddy" - i'm more of a "dude" i reckon.
2. Well - then my attributing your skill and forte in that arena is sound.
3. Not that it fusses me, cuz this is just my breaktime place during long sessions, but why do insist on being so antagonistic? I actually enjoy chatting with you, yet every now and then you throw in an angry curve ball...

I edited my most, you deleted yours. Let's leave it at that. I'm not antagonistic, but neither will I be messed with. Surprised?

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I edited my most, you deleted yours. Let's leave it at that. I'm not antagonistic, but neither will I be messed with. Surprised?

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messed with? what on earth are you on about?
Surprised? What kind of crazy ego do you have? Look, i'm sorry if (somehow) i've offended ya, that's never my intention - i like a good debate. But being rude to one another is just daft - so i'll stop it.

Please do me one thing - explain to me how I'm trying to mess with you? Then we can leave it at that...... PM if you like.....

The only surprise to me the kind of posts you, erm, post..... Honest - when you're not off one one of your weird posts, I enjoy your thoughts and opinions.... so why the odd stuff?

Guys

PM your angst to each other.

This thread is half decent but is now going down that old tired route.

Therefore locking is the only thing left to do.

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