GlynB
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: blue manga]
#1020360 - 26/11/12 12:16 PM
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Quote blue manga:
Balvanie,
whilst I don't doubt you in any way (with a name like that - there's a handful of
fantastic Scott based indie labels atm) .. it's quite rare for loaded music biz peeps to
brag about it ..
Your open forum bragging though - has me interested.
Link to your label / publishing outfit please ? Weblink ?
I wouldn't
have thought it would be a problem to post a link, as you must have to publicize your
outfit anyway.
Looking forward to checking it out and checking out your artists
!
Great stuff.
I
suspect he's a mate of Colin-S...
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blue manga
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: GBlack]
#1020870 - 26/11/12 01:20 PM
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Ah. I've been duped again
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ken long
Joined: 21/01/08
Posts: 4277
Loc: The Orient, East London
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: GBlack]
#1021292 - 28/11/12 10:29 PM
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I'd have to disagree. JLS gel at least. I know they're from a different stable though
and at least one of them has had experience (however dubious) with stage presence...
(replying
to Steve)
-------------------- I'm All Ears.
Edited by ken long (28/11/12 10:29 PM)
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balvenie
Joined: 28/03/11
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: Dynamic Mike]
#1021795 - 01/12/12 09:58 PM
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Quote Dynamic Mike:
Quote balvenie:
Meanwhile, my
people do not know what to do with their money and have no mortgages at all.
Classic. Brightened my day up. Many of
us here feel exactly like this. The only slight difference is we already own houses. We're
just waiting for your people to grow up & move out.
Are you suggesting that my people are skanks?
Rich skanks maybe, but come on, not skanks.I suggest my people get 2 acres, get sheep and
charge it to the company. I hope you don't hate us..who play all over the world and
introduce dance music
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balvenie
Joined: 28/03/11
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: GlynB]
#1021796 - 01/12/12 10:04 PM
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Quote GlynB:
Quote blue manga:
Balvanie,
whilst I don't doubt you in any way (with a name like that - there's a handful of
fantastic Scott based indie labels atm) .. it's quite rare for loaded music biz peeps to
brag about it ..
Your open forum bragging though - has me interested.
Link to your label / publishing outfit please ? Weblink ?
I wouldn't
have thought it would be a problem to post a link, as you must have to publicize your
outfit anyway.
Looking forward to checking it out and checking out your artists
!
Great stuff.
Do
you really think I will expose? No, because this forum needs a shake up, and if (as a
girl,and I am a girl)you get annoyed by me and my notions, then that is good. This forum
was too boring, too stuck in the past. My boys are dance, and I think it is worth
understanding how it works now. Bob Letsetz does.
I suspect he's a mate of
Colin-S...
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johnny h
Joined: 24/07/06
Posts: 2270
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: balvenie]
#1021799 - 01/12/12 10:19 PM
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Quote balvenie:
Quote Dynamic Mike:
Quote balvenie:
Meanwhile, my
people do not know what to do with their money and have no mortgages at all.
Classic. Brightened my day up. Many of
us here feel exactly like this. The only slight difference is we already own houses. We're
just waiting for your people to grow up & move out.
Are you suggesting that my people are skanks?
Rich skanks maybe, but come on, not skanks.I suggest my people get 2 acres, get sheep and
charge it to the company. I hope you don't hate us..who play all over the world and
introduce dance music
I hope their music sounds a lot
sweeter than your paranoid internet ramblings. It is difficult to deal with people with
full on personality disorders but somehow that's always been acceptable in the music
industry.
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balvenie
Joined: 28/03/11
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: ken long]
#1021802 - 01/12/12 10:32 PM
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Quote ken long:
My daughter
wanted to watch One Direction performing a live concert on TV the other day. They were
really poor. Not believable at all. Saying nothing about their singing, the body
language, lack of choreography and interaction with the crowd was appalling.
What do I
tell you on this forum??? All rubbish. Look under the stone and see the real talent.
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balvenie
Joined: 28/03/11
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: GBlack]
#1021803 - 01/12/12 10:37 PM
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"hope their music sounds a lot sweeter than your paranoid internet ramblings. It is
difficult to deal with people with full on personality disorders but somehow that's always
been acceptable in the music industry".
Yes, I understand that you have a disorder.
Any more of your insults might find you in the court of human rights mate.
Edited by balvenie (01/12/12 10:38 PM)
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balvenie
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: GBlack]
#1021805 - 01/12/12 10:46 PM
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Audion mouth to mouth is what I work with.
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zenguitar
active member
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Loc: Devon
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: GBlack]
#1021848 - 02/12/12 01:22 AM
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balvenie has left the building, banned for being, well, balvenie. Of course, she'll blame
it on us old fogies from the 70's ganging up on her, but the truth is that she has more in
common with those alleged old fogies than she'd dare admit. So, for the record, she wasn't
banned for her ideas. When she made the slightest effort to actually express any idea she
had a lot of support. She was banned for insisting on acting like a truculent teenager. Andy
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Zukan
Zukan
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: GBlack]
#1021880 - 02/12/12 11:48 AM
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Ooooh, you're such a top bloke Andy banning her and offering a considerate explanation. Had it been me I am sure Sos would be facing a slander/libel case.... Balveneiennueueuu was a f........
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Exalted Wombat
Joined: 06/02/10
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: bugiolacchi]
#1021894 - 02/12/12 12:52 PM
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Quote bugiolacchi:
I remember
going to the auditions of the 'Big talent show' with Jonathan Ross. Not being selected by
a very large panel group, but my then best friend nearly won the competition, got second
place, beaten by a ventriloquist.
Good thing too! The vent might have actually been entertaining. The world does
NOT need another power ballad singer or another pop muppet.
When I was involved
with a talent show, it was such a relief when a non-singing act turned up!
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bugiolacchi
Joined: 01/10/09
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Loc: London
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: Exalted Wombat]
#1021938 - 02/12/12 09:04 PM
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Well "Wombat", I partially agree with you that the world probably does not need another
'vocal' talent. If anything, the various talent shows have demonstrated that possessing a
potentially great voice is not such a rare gift after all! If one can be bother
to do some back of the envelope stats, like "how many people sing in tune"? 70% - "How
many possess also a good timbre?" 20% of these... and so on, like in the Drake equation,
one can work out that a city like London probably has a few hundred people who, if
bothered or willing, could carve themselves a professional singing career (potentially!).
Singing well is the norm in humans, not the opposite! I am sorry to annoy some
of you, but every year the X-factor alone showcase at least ten (not necessarily the
finalists) well-above average singers. Given good songs and productions they could make
passable and entertaining records. But the question begs? Does the world need
another boy band for instance? Apparently yeas, two new ones at year to feed those
screaming girls! I personally know at least another three girls singers to
rival Adele. But 'who needs them?'. One could expand on this even by saying with all
the good music recorded in the past, and some undiscovered, who needs 'new acts'? I for
one has never listened seriously to allegedly great past bands, from The Rolling Stones to
Depeche Mode, to 10 cc, Blue Nile, etc. A life time of new old music still there (for me)
to be discovered! Let alone the best of foreign countries, some excellent quality French,
Spanish, and Italian pop out there for instance! And Brazilian, African, ... tons! On a personal note, the singer I was referring to continued his career and now he
is one of the most respected singer, performer, producers and songwriters out there. To
find out who he is, just Google the TV programme edition. And the puppet guy?
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BJG145
Joined: 06/08/05
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Loc: Norwich UK
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: bugiolacchi]
#1021941 - 02/12/12 10:34 PM
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Quote bugiolacchi:
And the puppet
guy?
Paul Zerdin? Seems to have
done OK. Couldn't find the runner-up.
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bugiolacchi
Joined: 01/10/09
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Loc: London
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: BJG145]
#1021942 - 02/12/12 10:54 PM
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HERE...
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GlynB
Joined: 26/09/03
Posts: 3906
Loc: Lancashire, UK.
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: bugiolacchi]
#1022000 - 03/12/12 11:39 AM
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Quote bugiolacchi:
who needs 'new
acts'? I for one has never listened seriously to allegedly great past bands, from The
Rolling Stones to Depeche Mode, to 10 cc, Blue Nile, etc. A life time of new old music
still there (for me) to be discovered! Let alone the best of foreign countries, some
excellent quality French, Spanish, and Italian pop out there for instance! And Brazilian,
African, ... tons!
That is a good point. if no-one recorded anything new ever again, there would still be
enough archive recordings to keep all of us entertained for several lifetimes. Just as is
the case with books.
But the old stuff doesn't put bread on the table for
those involved with publishing does it? Hence the need to promote 'the new'.
Also, the ball passes to a new generation... who wouldn't appreciate being told they can
no longer write music, or author books, etc, simply because there's an existing archive
that everyone needs to work through first
...And there's always the chance that someone will actually come up with
something new, even today....move things along a bit. Though highly unlikely to come from
TV talent shows like X Factor (note how I brought the thread back on topic )
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bugiolacchi
Joined: 01/10/09
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Loc: London
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: GlynB]
#1022005 - 03/12/12 12:18 PM
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Thanks Glyn... and back to topic in a sense... if we 'need' not as much new music given
the vast catalogue of past work... then what is the real 'need' of new, personality-free,
karaoke style singers? Mind you, they often end up in musical theater, cruise
ship, etc... making more money than I have ever made in this biz...
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GlynB
Joined: 26/09/03
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Loc: Lancashire, UK.
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Re: The X Factor as a platform for exposure
[Re: bugiolacchi]
#1022006 - 03/12/12 12:26 PM
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Quote bugiolacchi:
Thanks Glyn...
and back to topic in a sense... if we 'need' not as much new music given the vast
catalogue of past work... then what is the real 'need' of new, personality-free, karaoke
style singers?
Mind you, they often end up in musical theater, cruise ship,
etc... making more money than I have ever made in this biz...
Ah, but the 'need' here is for something new
to fill the screen on a Saturday night and provide high audience ratings. Don't confuse
that with 'new music'.
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