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10.4.3 now available....
      #204330 - 01/11/05 12:14 AM
All seems OK so far...!

http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdate1043combo.html

Get the Combo update (not the Delta) and REPAIR YOUR DISK PERMISSIONS!



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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... has odd moments of flakyness new [Re: W0mble]
      #204407 - 01/11/05 09:40 AM
BE Warned

10.4.3 seems to have odd glitches... like messing up some people's address book contacts... So back up ALL your data before updating.

Nothing else more serious yet discovered... but that one is a confirmed Bug, in multiple users systems.

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... has odd moments of flakyness new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #204508 - 01/11/05 12:20 PM
I read a post on Macnn about a known glitch in 10.4.3 which affects users of M-audio pci based audio interfaces.
Folks upgrading beware!

So far so good for me here..

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... has odd moments of flakyness new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #204509 - 01/11/05 12:20 PM
It doesn't like Delta drivers at all.......

Card just doesn't work, even after all the uninstall/reinstall/permissions repair process....

Keep clear if you have a Delta card!


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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... has odd moments of flakyness new [Re: hjm]
      #204521 - 01/11/05 12:41 PM
It's made my Lacie D2 external FW HD go mental on startup, it's making a right racket but then it seems to settle down.......strange.....


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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... has odd moments of flakyness new [Re: sywater]
      #204558 - 01/11/05 01:59 PM
Quote sywater:

It's made my Lacie D2 external FW HD go mental on startup, it's making a right racket but then it seems to settle down.......strange.....




I hope this doesn't happen to my Lacie. Will try when I get home - thanks for the heads up.

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #204628 - 01/11/05 03:40 PM
The update seemed to have completely reindexed my HD for spotlight, but appart from that.. no problems so far.

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: inocybe]
      #204685 - 01/11/05 04:38 PM
Seems to work alright on my setup, finger crossed, even though I too experienced the LaCie drives going ballistic syndrome, and plenty of general HD frenzy that seems to have settled down (indexing?). However, I get the impression that startup time has become slightly longer.
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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #204689 - 01/11/05 04:42 PM
whats the diff between the delta nd the combo??

I just took the one that came up on the Apple update thing on my system....

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... has odd moments of flakyness new [Re: hjm]
      #204722 - 01/11/05 05:47 PM
Quote hjm:

It doesn't like Delta drivers at all.......

Card just doesn't work, even after all the uninstall/reinstall/permissions repair process....

Keep clear if you have a Delta card!




My 1010 is working OK.

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #204746 - 01/11/05 06:30 PM
Audiophile 2496 working fine here. Touch wood.

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #204787 - 01/11/05 07:36 PM
Lacie Porche FW drive, 828Mk2, DP 4.6 and evrything else is working fine on my G5 iMac with this new update so far.

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #204857 - 01/11/05 10:26 PM
La Cie drive got busy for a while (re-indexing?) but no problems so far.


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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... has odd moments of flakyness new [Re: toontra]
      #205004 - 02/11/05 09:49 AM
Quote toontra:

Quote hjm:

It doesn't like Delta drivers at all.......

Card just doesn't work, even after all the uninstall/reinstall/permissions repair process....

Keep clear if you have a Delta card!




My 1010 is working OK.




Spoke too soon - having problems today. M-Audio are aware of this & working on a fix.

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... more "issues" new [Re: W0mble]
      #205059 - 02/11/05 11:15 AM
users of Online banking services need to be aware that many such services have an "issue" with the OS 10.4.3 and Safari 2.02 .

Nat west for example .. is completely non functional ... they are working on a fix, but it may be a little while.


assorted others also report new problems.


Check BEFORE you upgrade....


Also, I'm having a problem getting permissions to correctly update... the Widget system seems to be the bit that's glitchy.

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... more "issues" new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #205205 - 02/11/05 02:59 PM
I'm getting the same Applescript error whenever I run Onyx through its paces. Keep having to press "OK" several times as the program completes various functions - weird...

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... more "issues" new [Re: ekimeno]
      #205210 - 02/11/05 03:15 PM

Hmmm.. I reckon I'm going to wait off a few weeks before updating. I've got way too much work to do in the next couple of weeks.

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... more "issues" new [Re: Marky]
      #205646 - 03/11/05 11:59 AM
If you have installed the update how do you go about un-installing it?


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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #205834 - 03/11/05 04:00 PM
I've updated on my ibook and now Help doesn't work - I can't search for topics.

No idea why this has happened but be careful.


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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #205861 - 03/11/05 04:42 PM


i upgraded and thought everything was fine...

until computer went to sleep...


and when it woke up... i couldn't move my mouse around...

keyboard worked (bluetooth)

i unplugged my mouse and plugged it in again and it was fine...

this has happened everytime computer sleeps... argh...

normally i use a bluethooth mouse but batteries died so i stole the mouse from imac...

hopefully the bluetooth mouse doesn't have this problem... but now i am kinda hooked on the fancy 2 button mouse... dang...


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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #205871 - 03/11/05 04:59 PM
I'm going to wait a little while before updating. I'm still updating stuff to work on 10.4.2

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: fractured]
      #205899 - 03/11/05 05:47 PM
Phew!

Everything, including Nationwide banking, is OK

I'll say if I come acro^ss any g//itce§§

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: Guy Johnson]
      #206088 - 04/11/05 03:37 AM
not entirely a happy bunny here... aside form the issues already mentioned....


I upgraded the Studio G5, as the G5 iMac seemed to survive it reasonably well... but held off the wife's powerbook, just to do online banking.,..


HOWEVER

on the studio G5 tower....
Logic now has the odd glitch, a couple of Plug ins now seem fritzy... and CPU load spreading is BACK to being utterly "broke" barring using the stop and start trick... and then only under annoying sets of conditions... EG, stop and start mid track works, stop and return to beginning and start again does NOT .,...

whereas recently it's been working moderately reliably.... ..

not frigging brilliant when working with client.....


Also EXT SATA Drives are now suddenly behaving inconsistently.... so much so I've switched them off and removed PSU... and moved all their DATA onto FW800.

I'm VERY sure it's the update.........

(Credit it me with a smidgeon of understanding eh? )

Apple have been politely notified of my distinct displeasure

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #206148 - 04/11/05 09:49 AM
Yikes - there seem to be niggles all over the place with this update. My BT modem doesn't like this update either - takes several attempts to connect to the web.

Max - how does one roll back to 10.4.2? Life was so much happier then....

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: ekimeno]
      #206555 - 04/11/05 09:13 PM
I noticed the same problem with Onyx: there's a new update (1.6.5) available to fix the problem.

However, I noted my restart/shut-down option in the Apple menu no longer works... Anyone else?

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: Feefer]
      #206661 - 05/11/05 05:20 AM
Works great here....

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: Feefer]
      #206675 - 05/11/05 08:22 AM
Quote Feefer:

However, I noted my restart/shut-down option in the Apple menu no longer works... Anyone else?




My bad: seems I had this disabled with a little application called "Login Window Manager".

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: Feefer]
      #206799 - 05/11/05 01:13 PM
Quote Feefer:

I noticed the same problem with Onyx: there's a new update (1.6.5) available to fix the problem.




Cheers - that fixed Onyx

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #207101 - 06/11/05 12:38 PM
Quote Max The Mac:

not entirely a happy bunny here... aside form the issues already mentioned....


I upgraded the Studio G5, as the G5 iMac seemed to survive it reasonably well... but held off the wife's powerbook, just to do online banking.,..


HOWEVER

on the studio G5 tower....
Logic now has the odd glitch, a couple of Plug ins now seem fritzy... and CPU load spreading is BACK to being utterly "broke" barring using the stop and start trick... and then only under annoying sets of conditions... EG, stop and start mid track works, stop and return to beginning and start again does NOT .,...

whereas recently it's been working moderately reliably.... ..

not frigging brilliant when working with client.....


Also EXT SATA Drives are now suddenly behaving inconsistently.... so much so I've switched them off and removed PSU... and moved all their DATA onto FW800.

I'm VERY sure it's the update.........

(Credit it me with a smidgeon of understanding eh? )

Apple have been politely notified of my distinct displeasure

Max



Hey Max, make sure you have the latest Pro Application Support install. I have heard of problems with Logic and 10.4.3 that were corrected after updating PAS.


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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: jaffi]
      #207450 - 07/11/05 10:17 AM
Cheers Jaffi, but It was installed at the same time as 10.4.3 on my system.

Those wishing to roll back, sadly, unless apple did something useful over the weekend, there isn't an "easy" straight forward method .

basically start up from a bootable external or optical System disk, delete the OS on the normal system drive, then re-install the OS and any additional drivers etc...

obviously this wipes out any system preferences and settings, and drivers etc etc, so a lot of re-installation and re-authorisation will be required.

NOTE, this involves deleting the operating system, NOT re-initialising or deleting the Hard drive..... Initialising the HD WILL lose ALL your Data....

it's a pain in the arse in simple terms.

Better IMHO, to work around the issues for the moment, and bug report all issues to Apple...
the More "proper" Bug reports they get, the faster they are likely to do something about it.

so EVERY time something "falls over" DO send a report to Apple....

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #208393 - 08/11/05 08:28 PM
Has anyone noticed pages taking longer to load in Safari or is it just my imagination?


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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: sywater]
      #208403 - 08/11/05 08:39 PM
Quote sywater:

Has anyone noticed pages taking longer to load in Safari or is it just my imagination?




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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #208486 - 09/11/05 12:28 AM
BOO!



Edited by Guy Johnson (09/11/05 12:28 AM)


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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #208947 - 09/11/05 11:37 PM


Now I'm really scared.....


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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #210422 - 13/11/05 07:10 AM
You know what I'm gonna stay here at 10.4.2 Thanx for the heads Up.

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #211362 - 15/11/05 01:13 PM
Upgraded without reading any of the above naturally!!! Everything was fine until I opened Digital Performer, loaded the song I was working on and hit Play - no sound apart from the vocal track! Opened Audio Midi Setup to find my audio interface (MOTU 828) greyed out. Fiddled aound with settings, Rescanned, reloaded latest MOTU driver and all was well until the following day when nothing would get the darn thing to be recognised. Finally started pulling USB and Firewire plugs out at random and the MOTU lit up as soon as I replugged the Firewire cable. No problems since, touch wood (taps head).

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: Mike C4miles]
      #213504 - 19/11/05 08:28 PM
Nat West online banking is now updated to work with safari 2.02 and OS10.4.3.

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #213520 - 19/11/05 09:49 PM
I've had no probs at all on my 1.33 iBook 12". I had the usual disk thrashing on startup, which subsided after about 3 minutes as OSX re-indexed everything, but apart from that all is well.

Except that annoying 'balance' issue where occasionally the balance on the system audio output goes off center is still there. Damnit!

Apart from that, I haven't noticed any changes. I don't currently have an external soundcard for my iBook, so I can't comment on drivers. But to those ppl with external HDDs, if your hard disks stopped 'thrashing' after 5 minutes or so, then there's nothing to worry about, it's just OSX doing it's 'housekeeping'.


Safari may well be slower, but I wouldn't know, since I don't use safari! Haha real men use firefox (it's a bit of a pain to get it setup, since you have to install 2 or 3 things to get it looking nice in OSX, but once you do, it's worth the trouble).


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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: forgieboy]
      #213812 - 20/11/05 08:21 PM
Quote forgieboy:

But to those ppl with external HDDs, if your hard disks stopped 'thrashing' after 5 minutes or so, then there's nothing to worry about, it's just OSX doing it's 'housekeeping'.




When you consider that Spotlight has to analyze EVERY file on the hard drive to create a catalog, it's amazing the process occurs as fast as it does. IMO, the Spotlight search is an amazing improvement, being able to find almost any search term, even in e-mails, etc.

FWIW, the word on the street is that OS X 10.4.4 has been released to developers for testing, and one of the reported improvements pertain to core audio issues (such as the ones some of you guys are encountering)...

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #213875 - 20/11/05 11:21 PM
After long deliberation, I finally took the plunge today and installed 10.4.3.

My initial impression was that my studio G4 was substantially slower after the upgrade - virtually all applications needed roughly double the normal time to start up.

I then downloaded a rather CPU-demanding session I'm currently working on in Pro Tools LE 6.9.2. It played back fine, though CPU overhead seemed to be affected negatively after the upgrade, though only by a touch. At times PT felt sluggish, though audio playback was not affected and there were no glitches and other hickups as such.

A few hours after the upgrade my system is back to its normal operating speed though I still think CPU performance is pushed a little harder under Pro Tools with bigger sessions.

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: W0mble]
      #213991 - 21/11/05 10:45 AM
My Powerbook internal hard disc recently died - luckily I was on the Protection Plan thing so hopefully Apple are fixing it. Anyway, I'd intend to go up to Pro Tools LE 7 when the time comes to re-install everything but PT 7 only seems to work on Tiger (I'm on 10.3.9) and Apple are only shipping 10.4.3 now. I'm not entirely sure if I want to take the step of moving up to 10.4.3 if there are still problems with it.

Does Spotlight go through all your files every time you start up?


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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: Iain_TC]
      #213999 - 21/11/05 11:09 AM
Quote Matt_82:

Does Spotlight go through all your files every time you start up?




No.

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Re: 10.4.3 now available.... new [Re: Guy Johnson]
      #222394 - 08/12/05 02:59 PM
anyone had any luck with 10.4.3 and the new m audio delta drivers yet?

need to know whether to install the 1010 beta driver as im always warey of betas, but saying that i cant currently use my card as i installed 10.4.3

anyone?


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