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Re: Mixing Desk that has that warm distortion for bass (like that 90's DnB sound). new [Re: Pete Kaine]
      #980043 - 04/04/12 09:04 AM
+1.

Akaizer is the tits for grainy stretching, highly recommended.


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Re: Mixing Desk that has that warm distortion for bass (like that 90's DnB sound). new [Re: Robmobius]
      #980049 - 04/04/12 09:48 AM
Quote:

Well to be honest its got one party trick, but its the one Kontakt can't seem to do.




Well, erm, the one thing missing for 'ALL' software samplers is the ability to actually be able to 'SAMPLE' - cough!!!

You know, the Akai S1000PB was never marketed as a sampler.

The other thing that puts me off soft samplers is the usual. 100 billion trillion gigabites of library that no one could ever scratch the surface of. Infinite everything ruining the thril of the chase yet again.
I used to love actually sampling the kettle, the washing machine, anything and everything as that was the only way to go and then making fit into my music. The feeling of an accomplishment. Then trading your library with with others. Nicking drums off this 12" and this speech of this film. Very exiting time.

Again, another experience gone forever. Now its soft samplers, same old arse groove on the same computer old chair with the same old LCD screen that you never need to get up from. Ahhhh, infinite everything, what a curse. (ooop, im off again, ill cut it there. )


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Re: Mixing Desk that has that warm distortion for bass (like that 90's DnB sound). new [Re: Kolakube]
      #980056 - 04/04/12 10:07 AM
Quote Kolakube:


Well, erm, the one thing missing for 'ALL' software samplers is the ability to actually be able to 'SAMPLE' - cough!!!





Hahaha, true. I do like working in a full screen editor like sound forge through rather than dealing with Kontakts interface all the time, althrough it's a valid point that you shouldn't need to go through another layer of abstraction just to record some audio. It'd be nice if you could just record into your sequencer and drag it into your sampler to manipulate it through in more setups. If I recall correctly doesn't Cubase/Halion offer this functionality? In fact doesn't Ableton as well?

Still your right, Kontakt really should be able to do it out of the box.

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Re: Mixing Desk that has that warm distortion for bass (like that 90's DnB sound). new [Re: Robmobius]
      #980075 - 04/04/12 10:44 AM
Hi Peter,

Yes I know Ableton can do that. You can record a wav as an audio file and then drag that to 'simpler' or 'sampler' Abletons built in plug ins.

I just think if your gonna call it a sampler it should be able to bloody sample eh?


I do agree sampling on a big screen is far easier. Back in the 90s id often wonder why Roland only saw fit to kit there sampler range with a monitor out port. It worked great and was very well received. Not sure why the likes of Akai didn't adopt this.


Now who would have said no to an S950 with a monitor out?

Mind, in saying that I find once you have cracked the sampler, sampling is easy. Just the learning curve. Because of the days of infinite everything it makes HW samplers look impossibly hard all because you have to spend a day learning it. I mean, a day?? Who the hell has that much time haha. One of the easiest samplers to sample on for me was the Emax 2 and it didn't even have a waveform display.

Hardest thing I find about most hardware, not just samplers but there certainly included but this even involves my beloved nord lead 3 is naming things. A PC keyboard to write a name as long as a a welsh village if you like takes a second. On a peice of HW it takes month. By contrast the sampling / Patch programming is easy


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Re: Mixing Desk that has that warm distortion for bass (like that 90's DnB sound). new [Re: Kolakube]
      #980082 - 04/04/12 11:12 AM
Quote Kolakube:


Hardest thing I find about most hardware, not just samplers but there certainly included but this even involves my beloved nord lead 3 is naming things. A PC keyboard to write a name as long as a a welsh village if you like takes a second. On a peice of HW it takes month. By contrast the sampling / Patch programming is easy



Some of the EMU E4s (XT models or ones with the digital expansion) have a PC keyboard input for writing patch names.


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Re: Mixing Desk that has that warm distortion for bass (like that 90's DnB sound). new [Re: Pete Kaine]
      #980086 - 04/04/12 11:18 AM
Quote Pete Kaine:

Quote johnny h:

but kontakt 5 has some very good old sampler emulations which provide some of the crunch of the old akais (but not the classic timestretching).





And for everything else the's Akaizer

Well to be honest its got one party trick, but its the one Kontakt can't seem to do.




Thanks for the link, I lost the Akaizer ages ago.

But it looks like peer pressure is forcing me to go and dig out all my old hardware boxes from my parents attic and ship them out here


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Re: Mixing Desk that has that warm distortion for bass (like that 90's DnB sound). new [Re: Kolakube]
      #980091 - 04/04/12 11:28 AM
Quote Kolakube:

Quote:

Well to be honest its got one party trick, but its the one Kontakt can't seem to do.




Well, erm, the one thing missing for 'ALL' software samplers is the ability to actually be able to 'SAMPLE' - cough!!!

You know, the Akai S1000PB was never marketed as a sampler.

The other thing that puts me off soft samplers is the usual. 100 billion trillion gigabites of library that no one could ever scratch the surface of. Infinite everything ruining the thril of the chase yet again.
I used to love actually sampling the kettle, the washing machine, anything and everything as that was the only way to go and then making fit into my music. The feeling of an accomplishment. Then trading your library with with others. Nicking drums off this 12" and this speech of this film. Very exiting time.

Again, another experience gone forever. Now its soft samplers, same old arse groove on the same computer old chair with the same old LCD screen that you never need to get up from. Ahhhh, infinite everything, what a curse. (ooop, im off again, ill cut it there. )




You know I don't always agree with you or see eye to eye but that is spot on! Couldn't of said it better my self


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Re: Mixing Desk that has that warm distortion for bass (like that 90's DnB sound). new [Re: Robmobius]
      #980093 - 04/04/12 11:33 AM
Oh yea Kola, Akai S-5000's and 6k's had a keyboard input and rather big large LCD displays!

The 6k is detachable so you can have the thing in your lap without having back ache from chronic rack bending lol

Saying all that I don't like them... Had one for a while and yea they sound good and are better.
For me they loose that old Akai feel I loved so much hahah

Edited by vinyl_junkie (04/04/12 11:34 AM)


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Re: Mixing Desk that has that warm distortion for bass (like that 90's DnB sound). new [Re: Robmobius]
      #980102 - 04/04/12 12:03 PM
Johnny,

Yeah same for the S5/6000 mate. Shame it didn't come sooner. Hey im never happy me am I haha


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Re: Mixing Desk that has that warm distortion for bass (like that 90's DnB sound). new [Re: Robmobius]
      #980103 - 04/04/12 12:04 PM
OOps didn't refresh page. VJ beat me too it.

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You know I don't always agree with you or see eye to eye but that is spot on! Couldn't of said it better my self




You never agree with me on purpose just to be an awkward arse

Well, im please we agree on this. But then its gospel


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