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Bilbert55



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Using midi controller to operate pc program
      #1001781 - 04/08/12 05:01 PM
i'm after buying a guitar fx unit which can be used with a midi controller and im thinking of buying the Behringer FCB1010

im using a usb foot-switch at the moment to control my backing track software "1BY1" basically i have 3 pedals assigned to "down" "enter" & "space"

is there a way off using the midi foot-switch controller - through my midi input on the laptop - to control the backing track program whilst it is also controlling the fx unit. as in can i assign the midi signal to a certain computer keyboard key?

So pedals 1 - 4 could control software and the other 6 be used as bank selection on fx?

im running out of room at my feet

Any help would be great!

Thanks


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Re: Using midi controller to operate pc program new [Re: Bilbert55]
      #1001937 - 06/08/12 08:49 AM
There's certainly a MIDI protocol to do that sort of thing called Midi Machine Control (MMC). However, there's no guarantee that your software or pedal can actually use it.

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Re: Using midi controller to operate pc program new [Re: Bilbert55]
      #1001967 - 06/08/12 11:48 AM
Quote Bilbert55:

i'm after buying a guitar fx unit which can be used with a midi controller and im thinking of buying the Behringer FCB1010

im using a usb foot-switch at the moment to control my backing track software "1BY1" basically i have 3 pedals assigned to "down" "enter" & "space"

is there a way off using the midi foot-switch controller - through my midi input on the laptop - to control the backing track program whilst it is also controlling the fx unit. as in can i assign the midi signal to a certain computer keyboard key?

So pedals 1 - 4 could control software and the other 6 be used as bank selection on fx?

im running out of room at my feet

Any help would be great!

Thanks




Really it depends on the software. For instance you could set up QLab to trigger off of MIDI commands (Assuming you had the MIDI license) certainly, I assume these are just NoteOn/NoteOff commands so I can't see to much difficult there.

But if the software can only be controlled by specific commands, then as was mentioned, you need software that listens to these commands, MMC being a popular choice for this.

Seablade


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Bilbert55



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Re: Using midi controller to operate pc program new [Re: Bilbert55]
      #1002000 - 06/08/12 03:07 PM
nice1 lads! will investigate

thanks


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Re: Using midi controller to operate pc program new [Re: Bilbert55]
      #1002028 - 06/08/12 06:45 PM
Re the FCB1010...

One problem with this is that programming it via the pedalboard itself is the biggest pain in the bollocks since the demolition crew's wrecking ball broke and they had to strap Buster Gonad to the crane instead.

"Ah," I hear you say, "but surely there's some way of doing it on the PC?"

"Ah," you hear me say, "they really got you there, didn't they...?"

Indeed there are a couple of programs for it. Neither of them are written or maintained by Behringer. And neither work on the stock Behringer firmware - they both need the Uno firmware. Which is fairly cheap, adds some useful features, and apparently fixes a few bugs that Behringer never got round to sorting; but still, it's another £15 to factor into the cost. Also neither of them are maintained (to the extent that their owners have let their websites lapse), but not a big deal since the FCB1010 and Uno firmware haven't been updated in ages.

Ed Dixon's editor is the most user-friendly. The only place it seems to be available now is
http://www.el34world.com/misc/music/SoundPage1.htm.

Ripwerx does a few more things, but it's a bit less friendly. http://ripwerxcom.ipage.com/GettingStarted.html

Edit: Just found there's a new one at http://www.lg-fcb.com/lgfcb_software.php but I've not tried it yet, and it costs 16 Euros.

And the Uno firmware comes from http://www.ossandust.be

Edit again: Oh, and you'll need some kind of MIDI I/O on your PC. The FCB1010 doesn't have USB built in, because it's too old for that.


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Bilbert55



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Re: Using midi controller to operate pc program new [Re: grab]
      #1002191 - 07/08/12 02:33 PM
thanks for info!! much help.....


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DGL.



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Re: Using midi controller to operate pc program new [Re: grab]
      #1002220 - 07/08/12 06:11 PM
Infact there are programs that will work with the stock firmware,
I have used Mountain Systems free editor for a while now
http://host.mtnsys.com:81/faq-fcb/PCEditorBeta.htm
and will work with BOTH UNO and Behringer firmware and makes it a god send when programming the device.


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Re: Using midi controller to operate pc program new [Re: Bilbert55]
      #1005272 - 24/08/12 09:05 PM
There is a Windows program which can map MIDI messages to any key. It is called autohotkey, and it is free. It takes some patience to program it. I have not tried with cc. messages, only with note on/off messages. The forums on the autohotkey site have examples.


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Re: Using midi controller to operate pc program new [Re: yofiel]
      #1005273 - 24/08/12 09:09 PM
Also, Max from Cycling74.com can do this. But it is not free. I have Max, and I do custom work for that type of thing, but it's probably not something for which you to pay. It's actually easier to program in autohotkey, although Max is prettier, it's more work to learn it.


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