Kolakube
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Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
#1019667 - 21/11/12 10:16 PM
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Hi guys,
I need an audio interface that uses FW or USB, so I can gig with it
plugged into my laptop. Did the MOTU 24 i/o come in FW/USB flavoring then my search
would be over.
I simply need 8 or more line ins and 8 or more line outs on
quater inch jacks that is capable of recording on all 8 channels simultaneously and thats
it.
I bloody sick of paying for stuff ill never use. I have been looking
into the RME fireface 800 that I previously owned and it was superb. But I do not need
any mic pre's or anything other than the line ins. I detest buying something with so many
features that I will never use. Same for the MOTU 828's.
I suppose my question
is does anyone know of a FW/UBS interface that offers ONLY quater jack line ins and outs.
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mjfe2
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
[Re: Kolakube]
#1019676 - 21/11/12 11:19 PM
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At the cheaper end of the scale you're unlikely to find 'modular' interfaces where preamps
are an optional extra. And if you did it wouldn't save much money. I'd get a Fireface
UC, personally. Or if you have the budget, this fits your bill:
http://mhsecure.com/metric_halo/products/hardware/lio-8.html
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Pete Kaine
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
[Re: Kolakube]
#1019716 - 22/11/12 10:27 AM
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The Motu Ultralite MK3 has the connections you need plus some pre's but a keen price. The only one I can think of that doesn't have pre's, I think is the Allen &
Heath ICE 16 that is currently filtering its way into the market place. http://www.allen-heath.com/uk/Products/pages/ProductDetails.aspx?catId=ICE16&Product
Id=ICE16&SubCatId=
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James Perrett
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
[Re: Kolakube]
#1019720 - 22/11/12 10:41 AM
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The thing about RME is that their drivers seem more stable than others - probably because
they write them themselves rather than relying on third party chipset manufacturers to
write them. I'd maybe think about a Babyface partnered with an 8 channel A/D and D/A. A
Behringer ADA8000 would get you started for not much money and there are a whole host of
alternative analogue to ADAT routes. The reason that many of these things have
mic inputs is that they're really cheap to add. The expensive bits like the case,
connectors and power supply are already there so a mic preamp only adds a couple of quid
to the build cost. James.
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
[Re: Pete Kaine]
#1019729 - 22/11/12 11:18 AM
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Quote Pete Kaine:
The Motu
Ultralite MK3 has the connections you need plus some pre's but a keen price.
The only one I can think of that doesn't have pre's, I think is the Allen & Heath
ICE 16 that is currently filtering its way into the market place.
http://www.allen-heath.com/uk/Products/pages/ProductDetails.aspx?catId=ICE
16&ProductId=ICE16&SubCatId=
That A&H device looks like it might really fit the bill for
me...
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
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#1019747 - 22/11/12 12:28 PM
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Quote MarkOne:
That A&H
device looks like it might really fit the bill for me...
It does look really interesting and I
really want to get a look at one when they land with us. If it has the same great build
quality we've come to expect from A&H gear it could certainly end up being a seriously
good quality multitrack recording interface for those wishing to capture live audio at
really keen price point.
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
[Re: James Perrett]
#1019760 - 22/11/12 01:10 PM
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Quote James Perrett:
The reason
that many of these things have mic inputs is that they're really cheap to add. The
expensive bits like the case, connectors and power supply are already there so a mic
preamp only adds a couple of quid to the build cost.
James.
Um, perhaps more than a coupla quid for
adding a decent digitally controlled mic preamp, even in volume...
http://www.profusionplc.com/pro/gex/pcatdtl0?ipartno=THAT1570-5171chipset
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fatbenelton
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
[Re: Kolakube]
#1019778 - 22/11/12 02:43 PM
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Echo Audio Audiofire 12......... http://echoaudio.com/products/audiofire-12Website implies
it's still in production but quite hard to get hold of in the UK - there are some about
c£450-£500
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
[Re: Kolakube]
#1019785 - 22/11/12 03:43 PM
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Quote Kolakube:
I simply
need 8 or more line ins and 8 or more line outs on quater inch jacks that is capable of
recording on all 8 channels simultaneously and thats it.
It's funny, but Max and I had two or three
goes at a certain interface maker to build exactly that to go with their audio interfaces
and they just could not understand that that is all a lot of people need nowadays -
especially those who wanted to build hybrid ITB/OTB systems. In the end we gave up.
Fair point about RME drivers - they are great. But even so, I'd still get
something like a Saffire Pro 40. Cheaper and sounds fine.
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James Perrett
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
[Re: Goddard]
#1019805 - 22/11/12 05:11 PM
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Quote Goddard:
Um, perhaps
more than a coupla quid for adding a decent digitally controlled mic preamp, even in
volume...
http://www.profusionplc.com/pro/gex/pcatdtl0?ipartno=THAT157...
Not sure that many audio
interface manufacturers would use something like that chip. Most still use analogue gain
controls in my experience.
James.
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Edited by James Perrett (22/11/12 05:11 PM)
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Bob Bickerton
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
[Re: Kolakube]
#1019831 - 22/11/12 08:52 PM
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Here's a thought. The Presonus 1818VSL
appears to have similar functionality to the StudioLive series of desks and can be
operated off iPads and iPhones. I very much like the StudioLive remote software. This
could add an extra dimension depending on your proposed use. I hear what you're
saying about not wanting to pay for redundant features, but I guess manufacturers make
what most people want to buy and I guess most people want preamps in an audio interface.
I think one of the Focusrite RED networkable units is simply line in and line
out, but you're paying big time for that. Bob
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Kolakube
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
[Re: Kolakube]
#1019996 - 23/11/12 10:10 PM
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Thanks for all the replies guys.
A&H great but whats with the phono
outs?>?? Turned me right of the moment I saw it but otherwise.
How many
ADA8000's can you fit on an RME babyface? Anyone.
Thanks again fellas.
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mjfe2
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
[Re: Kolakube]
#1019998 - 23/11/12 10:20 PM
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Quote Kolakube:
A&H great but
whats with the phono outs?>?? Turned me right of the moment I saw it but otherwise.
I'd really recommend RME over
all these other contenders you're considering. The audio quality is all much the same at
this price (though RME are a cut above the rest) but the drivers and product longevity is
what makes RME superior. You only need to look at the product history of all the other
companies, interfaces coming and going every year or so. Also, A&H's heritage is in
analogue desks not audio interfaces.
Quote Kolakube:
How many ADA8000's can you fit on an RME
babyface?
One. The Babyface
+ cheap ADA is a good idea, and will give you 10 inputs with TotalMix FX. But personally
I'd go for a Fireface UC, especially if you might want to expand to 16 in/out at a later
date via ADAT. There are a couple of B-stock Firefaces on dv247 at the moment
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fatbenelton
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
[Re: Kolakube]
#1020053 - 24/11/12 01:42 PM
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Did the Audiofire 12 not suit? 12 jack in and 12 jack out - firewire and no stuff you
don't need....... Andertons have got one for £469 and Thomann have them in
stock too... http://www.andertons.co.uk/firewire-interfaces/pid11761/cid710/echo-audiof
ire-12-firewire-soundcard.aspAlthough it was a while ago Martin quite
liked it............ http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct05/articles/echoaudiofire.htm
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Kolakube
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
[Re: Kolakube]
#1020064 - 24/11/12 02:49 PM
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Hi guys thanks. Sod it, I just bought an RME FF800.
Fatbenleton - Yeah it
looked ok mate (sorry forgot to get back to you_) but for £400+, well I just got a FF800
second hand mind you for £600. I know its an extra £200 but I have had one before and
know the drivers to be rock solid. It is more than I wanted to pay though.
Thanks to all who contributed. Much appreciated.
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
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#1021069 - 27/11/12 01:59 PM
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Doesn't the A&H device send 16 tracks to your computer via f/w? I only see phonos
being useful if you wanted to connect to a desk for mixing your live recording. I
like the look of this unit. A no-nonsense multi-track for capturing live recordings. Sometimes, many interfaces have loads of features that many folk just won't use.
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Pete Kaine
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Re: Can anyone help me choose an audio interface
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#1021174 - 28/11/12 09:54 AM
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BigAl - Yep, whilst I agree with Kola that it would have been nice to have a full
selection of 1/4"s on it, I also think your right in your thinking in that it was designed
as a stright up multitrack capture device and that outputs were an after thought meaning
that if they were going to cut corners to keep the price down it's probably the most
sensible place to do so. That in itself probably rules out a few end users but
I suspect the is also a section of the market that won't mind in the least.
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