RhinoTime
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Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
#1021092 - 27/11/12 04:36 PM
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I just picked up a newish Wilkinson V100IT that I'm doing a setup on for a friend. And I
am very surprised. It's a very decent guitar.
The back is made of two pieces of
nicely joined wood, the front has a respectable bit of veneer on it. Bridge and stop bar
are OK. Nut is adequate, no reall need to adjust it. Fretboard is very well finished.
Machine heads are a bit loose loose to turn, and not as precise as a nice Gotoh, but
entirely adequate. Quality of finish is nice, not as much of a plastic gloss as an
Epiphone.
Plugging it in it sounds entirely decent, wiring upgrades would
probably make it better still but there's a good tone here.
In fact the only
thing that lets it down is the scratch plate which seems a bit inferior, but I think we'll
be taking that off.
It seems to me that this is a decent guitar for not much
money
So my question to you, are they all like this? If they are I think I may
have found my new playing in a pub brand.
Thanks,
Grant.
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Folderol
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: RhinoTime]
#1021111 - 27/11/12 07:26 PM
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I had one very many years ago, and sold in in the late '70s because I'd stopped playing.
Regretted it ever since  Lovely well built guitar, light action, bright tone {sigh}
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SecretSam
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: RhinoTime]
#1021326 - 29/11/12 07:40 AM
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Do you mean the Vintage range ?
I had my hands on one of their teles a couple
of days ago. I was well impressed, couldn't believe how good the finish was, and it cost
very little.
Next time I get a trip to London I want to try out their ES355
clones. The AV3 looks very interesting.
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Dave B
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: RhinoTime]
#1021337 - 29/11/12 09:41 AM
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The Vintage range are excellent VFM. Wonkey Wabbit had a cheap LP and did some upgrades to
the hardware to get it very close to his full LP (Jimmy Page version iirc). The Lemon Drop
is a great guitar too for the money. If I do need a cheap strat to fit a gk to, it will be
a V100.
Dan and I went through a couple of years of chatting to Trev Wilkinson
at trade shows - lovely bloke who has worked very hard to get consistent quality levels.
We've discussed this stuff round here before, but the general feeling is that for most
users, these are pretty much ok out of the box. Trev reckons to change the pots. Wonks did
the tuners and bridge. Pickups are fine but most people would change them anyway to suit
tastes.
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RhinoTime
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: SecretSam]
#1021353 - 29/11/12 11:12 AM
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No, not even the vintage, the one I set up is the set neck LP copy that is floating around
for about £200 in various shops.
Regards,
Grant.
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Dave B
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: RhinoTime]
#1021377 - 29/11/12 01:15 PM
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? Vintage is the name that the Wilkinson guitars are branded under. Certainly the cheap
ones.
The more expensive ones are Fret King. But I think you'll find that the
V100IT is a 'Vintage' brand guitar ..
http://www.gak.co.uk/en/vintage-v100it-flamed-iced-tea/17936
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RhinoTime
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: RhinoTime]
#1021413 - 29/11/12 04:44 PM
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Yes sorry, brain fade, Vintage guitars. I meant to say it's not one of the high(er) end
models, only one step up from the bolt on neck LP copy.
-------------------- I've never liked a solo violin, you need at least five for a proper fire.
Edited by RhinoTime (29/11/12 04:45 PM)
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Folderol
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: RhinoTime]
#1021449 - 29/11/12 09:45 PM
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... talking of which I totally misread the title  The guitar I had was a Wilson ... No 'kin'
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SecretSam
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: RhinoTime]
#1021494 - 30/11/12 09:09 AM
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Just by the by: has anyone had their hands on a semi ?
Let me rephrase
that.
Has anyone tried one of the Vintage f-hole electrics ? Which ones and
what were they like ?
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Stef Andrews
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: SecretSam]
#1021538 - 30/11/12 12:00 PM
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Sam, I tried one of their 'Lucille' copies a number of years ago now. Seem to remember it
being about the £250 mark. Bloomin marvellous. Easily up there with something like an Epi
Sheraton (which I happen to be rather fond of) that came out the factory on a very good
day! It sat right, it played beautifully, felt really well built. Pretty much the same as
every Wilkinson guitar i've played. At the price point they're at, I'd be
tempted (were I in the market for a new guitar in that range at the mo) to just buy one
online and send it back if it's not right!
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SecretSam
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: RhinoTime]
#1021566 - 30/11/12 01:11 PM
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Thanks for that, Stef. The shipping to the arse end of Africa is a bit pricey, so I will
wait until I can bring one here myself. Wil have a look at the Sheraton, too.
Cheers Sam.
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Goddard
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: SecretSam]
#1021572 - 30/11/12 01:23 PM
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Do like Trevor's hardware (have one of his "lawsuit" locking trems), but have never tried
his guitars, so dunno about the Vintage f-holes, although I am hoping for the chance to
try out an Epi Wildkat soon:
http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Archtop/Wildkat.aspx
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: RhinoTime]
#1021632 - 30/11/12 06:47 PM
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I bought one of the les paul junior-alikes last year and had the opportunity to compare it
with a mates new faded Gibson version, which cost him about £500.
Neither of
them are anything like as good as a proper LP Jr but there sure as hell wasnt £350 worth
of difference between the two "new" ones.
The Vintage actually played MUCH
better than the "real" one, too.
"Real " one did have a slight edge in terms of
grunt though.
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: RhinoTime]
#1021916 - 02/12/12 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Epi Wildkat
I have to say that I think the
Epiphone semis/hollows are pants. I got a brand new Casino a few years back from Thomann
and have regretted it ever since. Quality Control is not the byword, to put it mildly.
Instead of just selling it straight away/returning it, I did that daft thing of trying to
improve it...first I replaced the tuners, the originals wouldn't hold tuning for more than
a nanosecond, even with 11s. Then I replaced the pickup guts, the originals were so feeble
and characterless it was embarrassing. Got Bare Knuckle to wind me some genuine 60s spec
Casino P90s. So, already a lot of dosh spent trying to get it half decent. The fingerboard
is awful, as smooth as a hedgehog, the frets are lumpy, the hardware is that glaringly
shiny chromed rubbish so did a bit of relicing to try and make it look more presentable.
I've played several Epi semis/holows since and was not impressed by any so I don't think
mine was a friday afternoon job. So, don't bother with the cheap end of the Epiphone line.
Get a Vintage!
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Goddard
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1022186 - 03/12/12 11:50 PM
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Quote Huge Longjohns:
Quote:
Epi Wildkat
I have to say that I think the
Epiphone semis/hollows are pants. I got a brand new Casino a few years back from Thomann
and have regretted it ever since. Quality Control is not the byword, to put it mildly.
Instead of just selling it straight away/returning it, I did that daft thing of trying to
improve it...first I replaced the tuners, the originals wouldn't hold tuning for more than
a nanosecond, even with 11s. Then I replaced the pickup guts, the originals were so feeble
and characterless it was embarrassing. Got Bare Knuckle to wind me some genuine 60s spec
Casino P90s. So, already a lot of dosh spent trying to get it half decent. The fingerboard
is awful, as smooth as a hedgehog, the frets are lumpy, the hardware is that glaringly
shiny chromed rubbish so did a bit of relicing to try and make it look more presentable.
I've played several Epi semis/holows since and was not impressed by any so I don't think
mine was a friday afternoon job. So, don't bother with the cheap end of the Epiphone line.
Get a Vintage!
Well, my
experience with Epiphones, at least the Korea-made ones from the '90s/early '00s, has been
quite the opposite and I've a number which I gig with, although I will admit the controls
and switches can be pretty poor quality, and the neck on a LP once needed a bit of
tweaking to get the relief right. I've a brace of Epi LP semi-hollows, lovely to play and
very well made (except for the controls). Changing controls out for better is not much of
a chore on a soldibody, but it's a big hassle on a semi-hollow. Thinking back now, I may
have replaced the Kluson clone tuning machines on my Epi SG with original Gibsons.
Don't have any Epi's with P-90s, only buckers, which sound fine. That said, I did
play a recent Casino (or maybe it was a Sheraton) last year and was not at all impressed.
Don't think it was a Korea-made one though, maybe they are making Epi's in China now.
As said, I like Wilkinson hardware, just have never had a chance to try the
guitars. When I get the chance. In in the market for a blues/rockabilly axe with whammy,
hence the interest in that Wildkat model.
Heh, I once asked Seymour Duncan to
provide replacement P-90s, but he hadn't added them yet at the time, so I ended up
repotting my Gibsons and they've been squeal-free ever since.
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Music Wolf
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: RhinoTime]
#1022210 - 04/12/12 05:01 AM
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I bought a Chinese made Casino, with Bigsby, from Thomann. When it arrived the set up was
shocking and the fret board could only be described as sticky. After a proper set up it
plays like a dream but it could benefit from some better pick ups.
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JPH
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
[Re: SecretSam]
#1022229 - 04/12/12 08:32 AM
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JPH
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Re: Wilkinson guitars, didn't expect that.
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#1022231 - 04/12/12 08:41 AM
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Have to say that although I did consider a Wilkinson when going on an acquisition trail
last year, after seeing an Andertons video on YouTube, I ended up going for one of the
special edition 355's. And, in all fairness, Im absolutely delighted with it, cant pick a
fault with it anywhere. Really pleased with it. And, I've noted as well, the 335dot is
consistently reviewed very favourably by the likes of Music Radar and their subsidiary
magazines. I actually thought that over the last 3 years or so that Epiphone had turned a
corner, Where QA is concerned.
Wilkinson and the Vintage line in particular,
as far as I was aware have always had a good name for excellent value for money and had I
seen an equally well reviewed 355 before I saw the Epi, chances are I would have gone for
it.
Still might get one of their Precisions, yet....
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