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#1020027 - 24/11/12 09:14 AM
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can anyone suggest a reasonably priced sampler or software sampler?
I am
working with cubase in cujunction with my Roland Boss BR - 800 multitrack
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BJG145
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Re: samplers
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#1020037 - 24/11/12 10:25 AM
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Kontakt is practically the industry standard - seems to be 50% off at the moment, offer
ends Nov 26th.
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/kontakt-5/?page=2
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Re: samplers
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#1020104 - 24/11/12 07:56 PM
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Shortcircuit from Vember Audio is FREE and works great.
http://vemberaudio.se/shortcircuit.php
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EDSPECIAL
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Re: samplers
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#1020308 - 26/11/12 07:55 AM
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Free. I like that. Thanks guys.
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EDSPECIAL
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Re: samplers
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#1020309 - 26/11/12 08:01 AM
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ok I've downloaded shortcircuit. How do I open it and use it?
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Re: samplers
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#1020318 - 26/11/12 09:16 AM
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Install to whatever plugins folder Cubase is looking for (probably something like
C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VSTPlugins) and Cubase should see it I guess.
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EDSPECIAL
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Re: samplers
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#1020330 - 26/11/12 10:44 AM
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I see I have cakewalk so I have to move it onto my music computer. Thanks.
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EDSPECIAL
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Re: samplers
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#1020349 - 26/11/12 11:37 AM
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ok it recognised cakewalk on my music computer now how do I open as use it?
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#1020352 - 26/11/12 11:49 AM
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Which version of Cakewalk?
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EDSPECIAL
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SONAR 8.5 LE
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EDSPECIAL
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#1020897 - 26/11/12 02:47 PM
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SONAR 8.5 LE CAKEWALK, the disk came with my multitrack recorder: Roland Boss BR-800.
Does that help?
So do I need to get cakewalk to import the shortcut
download?
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BJG145
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#1020901 - 26/11/12 03:10 PM
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Whatever DAW you're using will have an option for choosing the VST plugins folder. You
need to install the sampler into that folder. For Sonar it's usually:
C:\program files\cakewalk\vstplugins
I think Cubase always scans the
plugins folder for new entries on startup, though in Sonar this is optional, so you might
need to do it manually depending how it's configured.
See here if you get
stuck.
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007012959
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EDSPECIAL
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#1020902 - 26/11/12 03:19 PM
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Thank you BJG145 I'll have a go at that
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EDSPECIAL
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#1021020 - 27/11/12 10:13 AM
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Hi, I've got shortcircuit and cakewalk up on the screen now, are there instrutions for
using it? How do you get samples into it and use the midi keyboard to play them?
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Re: samplers
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#1021028 - 27/11/12 11:35 AM
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EDSPECIAL
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#1021354 - 29/11/12 11:16 AM
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Are these the right instructions? The display looks different to the picture in the
document. There's no mention of multi or group in the program:
"First of all
you need to understand multi, zone, and group." These terms are not in the shortcircuit
program?
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#1021362 - 29/11/12 11:50 AM
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Not obvious is it...seem to be lots of Google results for people
(a)
recommending it
(b) failing to find any instructions for it
I think the
available tutorials (more on YouTube) are geared towards V1 - give that a try. Some users
seem to prefer it. Can't expect miracles from freeware I'm afraid.
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#1021398 - 29/11/12 04:01 PM
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Alternatively, see...
http://www.tx16wx.com/home
...which was just recommended
in the "Free software" thread and looks a lot nicer...
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#1021411 - 29/11/12 04:32 PM
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Quote BJG145:
ome users seem to
prefer it. Can't expect miracles from freeware I'm afraid.
I've installed it twice in the past. Both
times opened it, poked about, got annoyed and deleted it again.
I can't offer
anything more than that really on the cheap. I use Kontakt & Camel Alchemy for sample
abuse these days, neither of free, but I get on with them far better than anything else
I've used software wise and I've been through all the free/cheap options.
If I
could code for toffee I'd build myself a emulation of my old Yamaha 5000. But I can't. So
meh.
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tim_obrien
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Re: samplers
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#1021458 - 29/11/12 10:14 PM
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Quote EDSPECIAL:
ok I've
downloaded shortcircuit. How do I open it and use it?
Go to YouTube and search for Shortcircuit.
That's how I learned to use it.
It's a simple drag-and-drop.
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EDSPECIAL
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Re: samplers
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#1023399 - 10/12/12 08:14 AM
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No luck, ok forget software ones, how about reasonably priced hardware samplers?
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BJG145
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#1023405 - 10/12/12 09:24 AM
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If you don't get on with the free ones (and I don't blame you, that's why I suggested
Kontakt), I should check out demos of budget soft samplers before going the hardware
route. Unless you're really pining for the sound and feel of vintage hardware you'll get
more bang for your buck, and less hassle.
http://www.112db.com/download
http://www.musicradar.com/gear/tech/computers-software/sampl...
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#1023432 - 10/12/12 11:40 AM
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Quote EDSPECIAL:
No luck, ok
forget software ones, how about reasonably priced hardware samplers?
Ah.... I was waiting for this... hardware
flavour and workflow is the way... 
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Re: samplers
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#1023436 - 10/12/12 12:02 PM
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Quote BJG145:
Alternatively,
see...
http://www.tx16wx.com/home
...which was just recommended
in the "Free software" thread and looks a lot nicer...
That looks great. It does something no other soft
sampler does- detects the sample's pitch and maps it for you. This was a super feature on
the Typhoon OS.
Kontakt is the best soft sampler. Avid Structure is also
pretty nifty though not as comprehensive.
I would avoid hardware. As BG415
said, it's a lot of hassle (faffing around with disks, SCSI, tiny screen) for a minor
effect on sound quality, an effect that you can easily recreate with plugins. Kontakt has
a built in Akai MPC and Emu SP1200 emulation, both of which get you all of the aliasing
and transposing artefacts that you'll remember from the past. Sounds quite like a TX16W
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Quote Tomás Mulcahy:
Kontakt is
the best soft sampler.
Agreed.
With its comprehensive semi-modular architecture, gob loads of filters and
modulators, insert FX, send effects, etc., it offers astonishing sample mangling
facilities.
But the scripting takes it into a different league.
Furthermore, there is just SO much library out there for it from free to serious pro
prices and everything in between - undoubtedly the biggest library support of any sampler
at the moment. Even the GBs of library it ships with is very good and more than enough to
get you well and truly started.
But Kontakt also reads most of the popular
hardware and software sampler formats as well further expanding what's on offer.
It's a shame the OP missed the recent sale - I just picked up K5 for $150 which, IMO, is
a bargain...
But then, my background is paying £3,000+ for a lump of hardware
that shipped with four floppies ... and that's before buying drives, messing with SCSI
voodoo, installing RAM (at an eye watering few £hundred for each stick), etc.. Easy not
to have much change out of £5,000!! 
Get Kontakt and get it over and done with!
IMO, of course.
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Re: samplers
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#1023535 - 10/12/12 07:48 PM
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Quote hollowsun:
But
then, my background is paying £3,000+ for a lump of hardware that shipped with four
floppies ... and that's before buying drives, messing with SCSI voodoo, installing RAM (at
an eye watering few £hundred for each stick), etc.. Easy not to have much change out of
£5,000!!
Aaaaah..
those were the days 
..pass me another terminator 
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Quote Chevytraveller:
Aaaaah.. those were the days
..pass me another terminator
LOL! I used to be a SCSI witch doctor.
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