Huge Longjohns
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Alternatives to mouse?
#1031217 - 30/01/13 05:08 PM
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Anyone use a trackball or anything instead of a mouse? Recommendations/thoughts? Cheers.
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G-Doubleyou
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031219 - 30/01/13 05:14 PM
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I Run my MBP in clamshell mode, and I like the magic trackpad. Easy on the hand
and wrist.
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chris...
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031227 - 30/01/13 06:46 PM
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Hate trackballs, love trackpads.
(completely different).
Some
discussion (also including meece) here.
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BJG145
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031228 - 30/01/13 06:47 PM
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I find trackballs even more uncomfortable than mice. The one on Missile Command was cr*p
and they went downhill from there.
I'm waiting for eye-tracking.
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Wease
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: BJG145]
#1031229 - 30/01/13 07:02 PM
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Quote BJG145:
I'm
waiting for eye-tracking.
Then you'll be interested in This guys work ......it's pretty impressive
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031234 - 30/01/13 07:45 PM
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Sometimes, and depending on the functions i need, i use a wacom tablet with a pen -
especially when creating a sound in a softsynth or using guitar amp simulations, i.e. when
playing an actual keyboard or a guitar at the same time.
Actually i find it
easier than using a mouse - you just click and drag in the same movement, no clicks
involved, seems less fatiguing than grabbing the mouse.
Cheers
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031235 - 30/01/13 08:03 PM
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+1 for the track pad on my MBP retina
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Exalted Wombat
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031236 - 30/01/13 08:06 PM
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I;ve tried them all (well, most of them) and keep coming back to a mouse. It needs to be
a responsive, hand-sized one though. I've yet to find anything better than the standard
Microsoft Optical Mouse (it works fine on a Mac too). And most wireless mice are a
solution that lacks a problem.
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031238 - 30/01/13 08:11 PM
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I really like Wacom Tablet option, pretty accurate and kinda less "virtual".
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blue manga
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031242 - 30/01/13 08:22 PM
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prefer trackpad to mouse but prefer Bamboo tablet to trackpad .. I have both on the
desktop (no mouse, cant b doing with that) - but use the Bamboo tablet 99% of the time..
definitely easier on the wrist and tendons etc
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blue manga
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031248 - 30/01/13 08:52 PM
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however I'll tell u a funny story which isn't that funny and not really a story..
I've got very dry hands at the moment what with the weather and all - and I find the
gripping of the pencil, is not congenial to having very dry skin on the knuckles, so have
temporarily switched back to track pad.
that is all.
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blue manga
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031249 - 30/01/13 08:52 PM
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still wouldn't use a mouse tho
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clisma
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: blue manga]
#1031252 - 30/01/13 09:03 PM
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I control my Mac telekinetically. But this forum keeps opening up in Safari. Guess my
subconscious likes to take over.
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desmond
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: clisma]
#1031276 - 30/01/13 11:57 PM
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I use a tablet/pen on the left, trackpad in the middle, mouse on the right.
I
can use whatever makes the most sense for the given task, and can alternate between my
left and right hands as necessary.
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RoastBiff in France
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Exalted Wombat]
#1031331 - 31/01/13 10:20 AM
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Yes, I've tried them all too and I still prefer a mouse, it's far more accurate while I'm
dragging the arrow around the screen than rubbing my (sometimes) sweaty finger all over a
Track Pad. I must add that I don't use a LapTop with my Logic Pro in my music room,
and I suppose that plugging a mouse into the LapTop would defeat the portability of it! The Wi Fi mice are a bummer though, batteries run out far too frequently and
unpredictably, so I still connect my mouse with a USB lead.
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Exalted Wombat
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Quote RoastBiff in France:
I must add that I don't use a LapTop with my Logic Pro in my music room, and I suppose
that plugging a mouse into the LapTop would defeat the portability of it!
There's a mouse in the side pocket of
my laptop's bag, and if I'm using it for anything more than web browsing it usually gets
plugged in. Portability is a highly overrated feature. You need what you need.
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Quote RoastBiff in France:
The Wi
Fi mice are a bummer though, batteries run out far too frequently and unpredictably, so I
still connect my mouse with a USB lead.
I use wireless Logitech mice and keyboards
on my PCs. The (rechargeable) batteries in my studio PC's mouse typically last around 2
years and the batteries in my office PC's mouse and keyboard have been in since I bought
it around 5 years ago. These PCs are heavily used.
The lady elf bought a bit
of a 'cheapie' wireless mouse and it needs new batteries about every 4 weeks.
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The Elf
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Exalted Wombat]
#1031350 - 31/01/13 11:41 AM
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Quote Exalted Wombat:
There's a
mouse in the side pocket of my laptop's bag, and if I'm using it for anything more than
web browsing it usually gets plugged in.
Ditto.
Gawd I hate laptop mousepads!
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031430 - 31/01/13 06:34 PM
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trackpad, trackpad and if I need to........trackpad! Dave
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Huge Longjohns
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031448 - 31/01/13 07:45 PM
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THe reason I asked is that I'm getting athritis in my index fnger and I'm convinced it's
due to years of mouse wheel scrolling. I have a MBP with a trackpad but it just doesn't
seem as responsive as the mouse. Anyone used trackballs?
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tim_obrien
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031452 - 31/01/13 08:11 PM
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The only trackball I've liked is the old big heavy (softball sized) Kensington
trackball. The newer ones are all too small and light. Don't know if the newer
Kensington's are still big and heavy.
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electrotimba
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: tim_obrien]
#1031459 - 31/01/13 08:56 PM
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Quote tim_obrien:
The only
trackball I've liked is the old big heavy (softball sized) Kensington trackball. The
newer ones are all too small and light. Don't know if the newer Kensington's are
still big and heavy.
I used one
for 1-2 years, helped me to get rid of serious problems in my right hand. Disadvantage,
bulky- to be really effective at preventing injury must be used with the extension pad so
it was huge . Now, I am more careful and manage with pad and magic mouse. Keep on
switching between the 2 to avoid injury. The only real advantage of MM over all other- it
is the flattest and prevent me from unhealthy bend of wrist. The Kensington monster was
the best as far as ergonomics and prevention of injury is concerned.
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: electrotimba]
#1031477 - 31/01/13 10:23 PM
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I don't know if they still make them and I may have the name wrong - Evoluent Vertical
Mouse. The mouse sits sideways meaning you don't twist the bones in your wrist when you
use it meaning much less chance of RSI or carpal tunnel. brilliant. just make sure where
you place the mouse allows your forearm to be parallel to the floor. I had hard core
carpal tunnel and tried them all before I found this little gem.
Eric void(0)
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electrotimba
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031479 - 31/01/13 10:41 PM
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That is really interesting, just tried positioning my hand with the imaginary vertical
mouse, great idea, the entire hand can be much more relaxed in this position. Found a
source too: http://www.backinaction.co.uk/evoluent-vertical-mouse
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RoastBiff in France
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: The Elf]
#1031542 - 01/02/13 09:42 AM
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Hi Elf, Yes I agree, the rechargeable batteries will run for years, but with the Apple
WiFi Mice I used to use, I was swapping them every couple of weeks, even if I switched
them off when not using them.....too faffing and fiddly! My brother in law is always
calling me for help because his Canon wi fi printer is always disappearing from his MBP
desktop, even though it's only 6 feet away! Gimme a direct connection everytime
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RoastBiff in France
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031544 - 01/02/13 09:52 AM
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Sorry to hear about your Arthritis Hugh, there are many medical solutions for that as I'm
sure you know. I've seen some guys who are really great with Trackballs, but again,
they are like great tennis players, few and far between, it's a gift I suppose, 'Horses
for Courses', or should I say 'Mice for cheeses'!
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Exalted Wombat
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Quote RoastBiff in France:
My
brother in law is always calling me for help because his Canon wi fi printer is always
disappearing from his MBP desktop, even though it's only 6 feet away! Gimme a direct
connection everytime
Yes. Wireless if you must. But ONLY
if you must. OK, your laptop's on wireless. But when it's on your desk, next to yor
modem, have a cable ready to plug in. Why Bluetooth your phone to your computer? You're
sitting in front of it, FFS! Use the cable! It's like installing a SSD system drive -
everything just gets faster and more responsive.
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: Huge Longjohns]
#1031596 - 01/02/13 01:48 PM
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Quote Huge Longjohns:
THe reason
I asked is that I'm getting athritis in my index fnger and I'm convinced it's due to years
of mouse wheel scrolling.
I started
getting pain in my right hand (and arm and shoulder and neck) from using a mouse. Not
arthritic pain, but still pain and still something to be avoided. I switched to using my
left hand and all is well, for the moment at least. It took me about 2 months to become
really comfortable with using my left hand, but was well worth the effort.
I
also now take a lot of time to learn keyboard shortcuts and have started using an
app-launcher (QuickSilver on the Mac, Promptu on Win7) so actually use the mouse a lot
less. Of course YMMV and it will depend on what you need to do with your computer.
FMH
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G-Doubleyou
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: oktafish]
#1031642 - 01/02/13 06:54 PM
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Quote oktafish:
I really like
Wacom Tablet option, pretty accurate and kinda less "virtual".
I still have my Wacom connected, used the
pen and tablet exclusively for years.
There are still a few plug controls that
are easier with a mouse.
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Skerrick
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Re: Alternatives to mouse?
[Re: BJG145]
#1031676 - 01/02/13 11:24 PM
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Quote BJG145:
I find trackballs
even more uncomfortable than mice. The one on Missile Command was cr*p and they went
downhill from there.

I'm waiting for eye-tracking.
youre waiting for EYE
tracking? you might not have to wait too long at all.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N52jDyWtoQQ
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