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Using a Yamaha THR 10.... new

#968205 - 04/02/12 02:25 AM

I am soon to record an electric rhythm guitar track, 60s Motown style, 2 & 4 backbeat chords sort of thing, and my guitarist wants to use his Yamaha THR 10. So can I safely presume that I can just mic it up using my small diaphragm condenser, Neumann KM183 ?

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Re: Using a Yamaha THR 10.... new

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#968422 - 05/02/12 03:17 PM

Hi,

A KM183 should work well to mic the THR10 - in all honesty, a large-diaphragm mic might pick up the low end a little better from the ful-range speakers but with a little experimentation, it should work well - it does need a slightly different technique to a regular guitar amp. Do try the DI/USB output though as this sits pretty well in a mix.
One thing - if you're going to mic it, turning off the Extended Stereo Technology will help stop any phasing issues: either turn it off using the editor, or turn the DLY and FX controls to minimum and hold the tap tempo button for 10 seconds or so (until the sharp sign appears in the display). Just repeat the process to switch it back on.

Good luck!

Julian

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Re: Using a Yamaha THR 10.... new

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#968442 - 05/02/12 06:29 PM

Hi,

Thanks for your helpful reply. I am not a guitarist, so this area is new to me....

I also have a Neumann TLM 103 large diaphragm condenser, so I'll try that as well, maybe record from both just for my own sonic education....

I wonder also, could one record from the jack line out ? I can't use the USB as there isn't one on my interface, which is a MOTU 828 mk3, and my DAW is Digital Performer. That is, can I just use a balanced line out from the jack to the high-Z guitar jack on the 828 Mk3 ? Or would I need a special guitar lead ?

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Re: Using a Yamaha THR 10.... new

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#968483 - 06/02/12 09:50 AM

Hi,

Personally, I think the TLM103 will have the edge, but try both - you should get a good result with one of them. I've heard some stuff recorded with an SM57 and it kind of works, but the character of the THR suits a big diaphragm mic really.

You can use the headphone out as a line out. You'll need a y-cable (std jack insert cable) and you should just go into the line inputs on your interface (the guitar input will have too much gain). The only thing to be aware of when you do this is that it will mute the THR's speakers - so you'll need to monitor it through your regular monitoring setup.

Do you have access to Cubase at all? We just recorded a demo video of recording an entire track with THR and I have a Cubase AI project file that has guitar parts recorded DI and using high-end mics that might be interesting...

Cheers,
Julian

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Re: Using a Yamaha THR 10.... [Re: Yamaha Guitar Development]
#1032275 - 05/02/13 09:46 PM

Quote Yamaha Guitar Development:

You can use the headphone out as a line out. You'll need a y-cable (std jack insert cable) and you should just go into the line inputs on your interface (the guitar input will have too much gain). The only thing to be aware of when you do this is that it will mute the THR's speakers - so you'll need to monitor it through your regular monitoring setup.

I have tried the THRs headphone out as a line out into a number of other amplifiers (using line in, not the instrument inputs), but the sound is degraded by a whistling noise. This was mainly to try to get the excellent THR tones at gigging level. Any clues as to how this can be achieved and the whistling be avoided ?

Thanks

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