BJG145
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Storm08]
#1028563 - 14/01/13 03:11 PM
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Can't swear to it, but I think it's the USB version of this... http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb06/articles/alesismultimix16.htm...and would provide multi-track recording. But, no, you don't need the mixing
desk aspect just for recording purposes.
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Storm08
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: BJG145]
#1028571 - 14/01/13 03:43 PM
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looks like it. Firewire or USB 2.0?
given what is said about it:
"Given its low UK price, the Multimix Firewire 16 offers
extraordinary value for money, and is ideally suited to the musician on a budget who wants
to record an entire band at once, while keeping all the tracks separate for later mixing.
Although the mixer's facilities are pretty basic, it turns in a very acceptable audio
performance, and the mic preamps behave well enough to make good, clean recordings,
provided that you use either sensitive capacitor microphones or use dynamic mics fairly
close to the sound source."
it seems like it could be very
useful for us. and wouldn't cost that much if I sell the current mixer.
Thinking about getting this now. Good idea?
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BJG145
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Storm08]
#1028573 - 14/01/13 03:58 PM
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I should wait and collect a few opinions. Stereo output is a bit limiting...this could
make it difficult to work with things like headphone mixes when tracking, or hardware
outboard when mixing. (By comparison, something like the 2626 gives you eight individual
outputs as well as eight inputs.)
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Storm08
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: BJG145]
#1028577 - 14/01/13 04:15 PM
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okay, so the 2626 gives you I/O's. but i need/would like to record everything at
once?? i have 8 drum mics and 3 mics that are used for guitars and bass.
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MarkOne
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Storm08]
#1028581 - 14/01/13 04:36 PM
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I had a multimix 16 and while it actually wasn't a bad product, the big limitation was the
inability to set up a headphone mix (or indeed set of headphone mixes) the monitor section
is frankly a bit weak. That said I recorded my last album with it and that
included tracking the drummer. But I would recommend getting a multichannel USB
or firewire interface. And indeed that is what I have just upgraded to (Focusrite)
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James Perrett
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Storm08]
#1028586 - 14/01/13 05:20 PM
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Looks like the Multimix can record 18 channels but only play back 2 which is fine if you
don't need lots of headphone mixes. It also has only 8 mic inputs so you would need to add
a few more mic preamp channels. James.
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Skerrick
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: MarkOne]
#1028628 - 14/01/13 10:48 PM
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Quote MarkOne:
But
I would recommend getting a multichannel USB or firewire interface. And indeed that is
what I have just upgraded to (Focusrite)
hmmmmmmm... youve got me thinking..
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Edited by Skerrick (14/01/13 10:49 PM)
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Storm08
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Skerrick]
#1028689 - 15/01/13 11:04 AM
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Well headphone mixes should be too much of a problem. So for that it should be okay. The
only thing that would be limiting is the lack of powered mic inputs. would probably need
10-12 of them. Anyone got a solution?
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Storm08
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Storm08]
#1028712 - 15/01/13 01:29 PM
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*shouldn't be a problem.
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Storm08
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Storm08]
#1028733 - 15/01/13 03:03 PM
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Sorry about multiple posts, let me re-phrase that last question. If i got something like
this: http://www.maudio.co.uk/products/en_gb/ProFire2626.htmlhow
would I be able to record drums(8 mics), two guitars(2 mics) and possibly a bass(1 mic)?
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BJG145
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Storm08]
#1028738 - 15/01/13 03:14 PM
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The 2626 only has eight analogue inputs. The Multimix has 18, but only eight of them are
for mics - the others are line-in. So like James says, you'd need to use some extra mic
pres to connect up your other microphones. You could use anything from a Behringer
Ultragain to a Neve 4081.
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Storm08
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: BJG145]
#1028753 - 15/01/13 04:25 PM
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Okay, so Multimix + 2-4 mic pres and then I should be on my way to multi-track
recording?
something like this be okay?:
http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/sm-pro-q-pre-4-channel-mic-pre--91538
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James Perrett
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Storm08]
#1028776 - 15/01/13 06:34 PM
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The SM Pro Audio stuff is usually pretty good value for money so it would be worth a look.
James.
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Storm08
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: James Perrett]
#1028944 - 16/01/13 04:37 PM
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Awesome, ill have a look at getting both the interface and the pre amp.
This
is a simple question but, once i get those two, how would i connect everything up to the
PC for recording? Because you have 8 inputs on the interface that are taken up by the drum
kit, to where do the other mic pres get plugged in??
The answer is gonna be
obvious, but i just want to make sure ive got it all clear in my mind.
And
one last thing, usb or firewire?
Edited by Storm08 (16/01/13 04:50 PM)
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BJG145
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Storm08]
#1028947 - 16/01/13 04:56 PM
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Apart from the eight mic inputs, the mixer has another eight line-level jack inputs,
arranged as four stereo pairs. The mic pre has four outputs you could plug into the left
channels.
Re: Firewire or USB, I was just glancing at this thread which seems
to recommend the USB version...
http://homerecording.com/bbs/user-forums-brand/alesis-forum/alesis-multimi
x-8-usb-firewire-299073/
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Storm08
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: BJG145]
#1028948 - 16/01/13 05:05 PM
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Ah, sorry i got confused :P Yea that makes sense.
Okay, well it's the same
price either way, i may well stick with usb, has been fine with the old m-box.
EDIT: Ah, thats what i shall do then  thanks for
looking that up
Thank you very much for all the help and replies, it has been
invaluable.
-------------------- I'm a drummer, I hit things for a living... no wonder my monitors don't work anymore
Edited by Storm08 (16/01/13 05:07 PM)
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Storm08
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Storm08]
#1032335 - 06/02/13 09:27 AM
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Just an update. Got an alesis multimix 16 USB for £120  Now i just need to get a mic pre-amp and a few more cables and ill be set to try and get
the best sound possible. selling my old mixer on ebay so it should be gone by
next week.
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Storm08
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Storm08]
#1032732 - 08/02/13 01:23 PM
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I have just received the mixer, havent tried it yet though. would i still be able to use
the m-box whilst using the multimix?
Thanks, Storm08
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Storm08
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: BJG145]
#1033139 - 12/02/13 11:14 AM
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Hello again, quick and important question!
I was going to get an alesis
multimix but would a Tascam US1800 be better/just as good? I dont really need the
functionality of a mixer as such so i was thinking the tascam would be a better bet?
Cheers in advance.
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sweben
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Storm08]
#1035631 - 01/03/13 07:18 AM
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How about keeping the interface you have and getting a cheapish electronic drum kit and
bfd2. Costs under $1000 all up I rekon. I use bfd2 and it soounds better than what I
managed wth 6 years of multitracking real drums
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Storm08
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Re: Getting the best out of my equipment
[Re: Storm08]
#1037812 - 12/03/13 04:57 PM
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Hello, Despite pondering on it, I got a TASCAM US-1800. I have to say, I'm
pretty surprised with the quality of the thing. does what I need it to do, latency is very
low and is produces clean recordings. Also got a pair of Yamaha HS50M's, made a
massive difference!  Now to start recording/mixing my own songs.
-------------------- I'm a drummer, I hit things for a living... no wonder my monitors don't work anymore
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