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Android app in 2013? new
      #1025430 - 21/12/12 12:29 PM
Having seen that the SOS Android app is planned for release in 2013 can I ask 1) will it be structured similarly to the rather spiffy iPad version and 2) any idea when (so I can manage my paper mag sub)?

Merry Xmas to all

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1025435 - 21/12/12 01:06 PM
1. yes -- the android app is generated by the same software and from the same source files.

2. No idea, but I'm told it is imminent and only requires some minor back-office administration to be completed.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1025452 - 21/12/12 02:17 PM
Thanks Hugh & merry Christmas!

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1025645 - 23/12/12 04:16 AM
Hi,

Kinda crap that there is no android version already. My subs is about to expire but I think I will wait and see what happens here before renewal.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1033346 - 13/02/13 07:43 PM
Just thought I'd give this a little buff and bump whilst I'm logged-on, just in case anyone's looking and thinking "what shall I finish tomorrow?" .

A.

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Re: Android app in 2013? [Re: Andi]
      #1033362 - 13/02/13 08:33 PM
I'm told the android version of the iPad magazine is hoped to be launched within three months...

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1033450 - 14/02/13 02:47 PM
Woo Hoo, though suddenly I'm missing the idea of the paper copy

Alongside SOS my other consistent read is Tape Op which has just ceased paper subs in the UK, but has made issues available online. It's good because it's portable and available, but I miss the Saturday morning (I always save both mags for the weekend) Coffee, Toast, headphones in the living room and ink on paper. Is it possible to actually BECOME a Luddite do you think? Anyway, I'm off to have a comforting rummage through my valve drawer.



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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1033468 - 14/02/13 03:18 PM
I've not yet taken up reading Tape Op on a tablet, and my own experience of most magazines on tablets has mostly been both hugely disappointing and immensely frustrating. Most publishers, it seems, think that exporting the printed page as a pdf (or similar) file is all that is needed....

However, this is far from the case, and results in endless pinch-zooming in and out, and dragging the page portion all over the tablet screen to read the text. Hideous!

In contrast the SOS team has worked very hard to creat a bespoke app which completely optimises the magazine content for the tablet screen. There is no zooming in and out, or dragging the text around. Everything is reformated to work perfectly on the screen.

Two columns of text instead of three.

A sensible typeface size that is easily readable at normal tablet-viewing distances.

The different pages in long articles are reached by a simple vertical flip from one page to the next. The rest of the magazine (including all the ads) are thumbed through by horizontal flicks.

Detailed images can be zoomed in where appropriate. Front and back panels can be scrolled side to side to examine in closeup.

Audio and video clips are embedded and instantly available.

The 'added value content' that we can't squeeze into the fixed page-count paper mag, and which has to go online instead, is properly included as an integral part of the tablet magazine (because there are no page count restrictions). So, in the case of any of my reviews, the test plots are all integrated with the article, instead of tucked away on a distant webpage.

Everything is downloaded to the tablet, so you don't need to be online to read the mag... but if you are online, all webslinks in articles amd adverts are active

It's all very intuitive, straightforward and - actually -- very enjoyable and pleasing to use. And I now actually prefer reading the iPad edition to the traditional paper version!

The Android version should work in pretty much the same way as the iPad version... and judging from my own experience with a relaxing weekend cuppa-joe on a saturday morning, it works just as well, if not better, that the paper version!

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1033558 - 15/02/13 08:26 AM
I'll second that - I've looked at a few mag subs and given-up in disgust. A friend with an IPad downloaded the SOS sample issue and I was really impressed with the format - it just works so well. One of the better other mags out there is Premier Guitar which is a free esub or trivially cheap tablet sub. Each issue downloads as and E Copy with all the ads and pages that need to be zoomed and slid, and also as a reformatted version of each article as a very clean single column - not dissimilar to what Pocket does for saved webpages.

Personally I'd rather wait and have it done well.

Thanks Hugh.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1033563 - 15/02/13 09:40 AM
Quote Hugh Robjohns:

I'm told the android version of the iPad magazine is hoped to be launched within three months...








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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1033625 - 15/02/13 03:51 PM
That's 3 of us on this forum alone supporting Android - no wonder Apple's worrying!

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1042320 - 09/04/13 02:05 PM
4...

Wonder why Apple OS got precedence(?) Though SOS aren't the only business to have developed for iOS first then Android. Just wondering what the rationale for this was when obviously the market share is dominated by Android. Or was it a case of diving in at the deep end?

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: ken long]
      #1042325 - 09/04/13 02:15 PM
I'm waiting for Android version, though a Kindle version would be cross platform and surely save a lot of SOS man hours maintaining.


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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: ken long]
      #1042376 - 09/04/13 05:10 PM
Quote ken long:

Just wondering what the rationale for this was when obviously the market share is dominated by Android.




There's probably a number of reasons - this article from Dec 2012 lists a few, like the difficulties of developing for an increasingly fragmented market, and lack of uptake.

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/12/30/no-more-tnw-magazin...

Quote:

To give you some insight in how little uptake we saw on Android here are some statistics: for every Android user that downloads an Android magazine we have 80 iOS downloads.




Just because there are more Android devices than iOS devices, that doesn't mean there's more demand for SOS on that platform.


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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: BJG145]
      #1042441 - 09/04/13 11:09 PM
But have you seen how rubbish most Android mags are? I buy the occasional Guitar Techniques mag, IOS gets embedded video, live tab and audio links; Android doesn't even get the cover disc audio content and the tab doesn't scale. Ditto Classic Rock. It's self fulfilling; I don't buy the Android copy because it's lazily produced rubbish. I'd cancel my paper mags tonight for Android subs that were close to the quality of the SOS BIOS app.


I'll very happily beta the imminent SOS app by the way.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1046169 - 01/05/13 07:47 PM
Quote Hugh Robjohns:

I'm told the android version of the iPad magazine is hoped to be launched within three months...

H




I'm starting to get all tingly in case anyone wants to know.

Um, hang-on a mo; I hope that doesn't mean that SOS will be launching an Android magazine about iPads

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1046172 - 01/05/13 07:51 PM
I think they call that over share, don't they? Keep your tingling to yourself!

Android beta testing is currently in progress...

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1046179 - 01/05/13 08:34 PM
Looking forward to it; I actually came close to buying an iPad Mini last week simply because it's the platform that supports a thousand toys that I don't need to play with and publications I don't need to read, but I'm sure that the world will catch-on eventually. Hopefully now that Sonoma appears to have proven that low-latency is possible on Android the floodgates will open and.........................ah well

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1046635 - 04/05/13 08:20 PM
Quote Hugh Robjohns:

Android beta testing is currently in progress...




Well all I can say is it had beta be good!



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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: ConcertinaChap]
      #1046688 - 05/05/13 12:14 PM
Beta be beta than good! And yes, it's going to be a long weekend.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1047516 - 10/05/13 11:10 AM
Big News, here at SOS we are looking for help in beta testing our Android App! Head over here for all the details.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Ellis Sutehall]
      #1047542 - 10/05/13 02:00 PM
...and I was just about to bump this to hint that Friday PM might be a nice time for an update - my details sent.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1053423 - 20/06/13 01:39 PM
....and it's announced on the Subs page in the July SOS.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1053428 - 20/06/13 02:17 PM
Hurrah!

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1053654 - 21/06/13 07:23 PM
...and a rousing cheer from me as well


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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1053670 - 21/06/13 09:02 PM
Well, I've cancelled my paper sub - I feel lousy doing it, like disrespecting an old and valued friend. Still, 21st century and all that.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1053784 - 22/06/13 11:10 PM
When I go to the subscription page (it displays the US-priced version), under the tablet sub details it still says "Android and Kindle versions coming soon". Nothing in the Google Play Store yet either.

Is the Android version UK-only at the moment? Or am I just jumping the gun again?


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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: A. AuCr]
      #1053886 - 24/06/13 09:20 AM
The Android app is live in both the UK and US Google Play Stores. We are currently updating the information across the site stating it's "coming soon", Kindle however, is due in a few weeks.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1053891 - 24/06/13 10:19 AM
(Link is here.)


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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Ellis Sutehall]
      #1053916 - 24/06/13 12:43 PM
Quote Ellis Sutehall:

The Android app is live in both the UK and US Google Play Stores. We are currently updating the information across the site stating it's "coming soon", Kindle however, is due in a few weeks.




Thanks! Any chance of getting the link to the US version posted? When I search the US app store for "sound on sound" there are 795 results, none of which are you!


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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: A. AuCr]
      #1053924 - 24/06/13 01:56 PM
We have just realised that as well. There seems to have been an error publishing the US version, we're working to resolve it now. We hope to have it showing up this week.

When it is available I shall post the link. Thanks for your patience.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Ellis Sutehall]
      #1054161 - 25/06/13 06:25 PM
What's the status of the UK version of Android App? It does not appear available to my Galaxy Note running Android 4.1, which should conform with the system requirements.

Cheers

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: cliffsp8]
      #1054252 - 26/06/13 08:19 AM
That will depend on whether you are using the Galaxy Note phone or tablet. The Android app is not compatible with any mobile phone, not even the giant Note I'm afraid.

These are the links for the app in the UK and US

UK Link
US Link

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Ellis Sutehall]
      #1054371 - 26/06/13 05:12 PM
OK, mine is a Note phone. Is there any reason why or is it just marketing?

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: cliffsp8]
      #1054383 - 26/06/13 06:21 PM
We don't produce an A5-sized version of the paper magazine, despite it being a more pocket-friendly size, because it wouldn't look very good and reading it wouldn't be a pleasant experience.

The same is true of trying to read a tablet edition on a phone screen. It's just not very practical, and producing something that would work would then either involve additional time and resources that we don't have, or compromise the quality of the larger versions optimised for ~10-inch screens.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1054414 - 26/06/13 09:55 PM
I guess I'll have to make do with reading the web version on my Note phone, which is easy, very legible and fits in my pocket :-)

Though I don't see the rationale in doing a kindle app in the light of your explanation.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #1054476 - 27/06/13 11:22 AM
Hi Hugh,

I just tried out the Android version on my Nexus 7. The pictures look great, but the text is too small for me. It doesn't appear there is any way to zoom in on the text, like there is in the other Google and Kindle books I have.

Quote Hugh Robjohns:

We don't produce an A5-sized version of the paper magazine, despite it being a more pocket-friendly size, because it wouldn't look very good and reading it wouldn't be a pleasant experience.





Can I take it from this that you won't be adding the ability to zoom into text, or is there a button/setting/feature I'm missing?

Cheers,

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Malcolm Jacobson]
      #1054573 - 27/06/13 08:29 PM
Quote Malcolm Jacobson:

Hi Hugh,

I just tried out the Android version on my Nexus 7. The pictures look great, but the text is too small for me. It doesn't appear there is any way to zoom in on the text, like there is in the other Google and Kindle books I have.

Quote Hugh Robjohns:

We don't produce an A5-sized version of the paper magazine, despite it being a more pocket-friendly size, because it wouldn't look very good and reading it wouldn't be a pleasant experience.





Can I take it from this that you won't be adding the ability to zoom into text, or is there a button/setting/feature I'm missing?

Cheers,

Malcolm.




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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1054645 - 28/06/13 11:44 AM
Working very happily for me on N7 tablet. About the only size issue I have is with the text on some of the ads; this I can live with.

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Re: Android app in 2013? new [Re: Andi]
      #1054816 - 29/06/13 08:47 PM
App downloaded from US Play store. Hooray, and thanks!

Preview issue downloaded and displays fine. Looks good on my Galaxy Tab 2 7.0.
Purchased the July issue from within the application. It shows as "Purchased", however it wouldn't start downloading for several hours, it would show the "Pause" & "Cancel" buttons for a few seconds, then switch back to the "Download" button. Actually, it's doing that again. Once it did show that it was starting to download the issue, but it went back to the showing the "Download" button again after a few seconds.

Feature req's:

1. Pinch zoom. I don't care if it doesn't reflow the text. Double-tap to go back to default zoom state?
2. Background download. If I switch to another app for more than a couple minutes, and then come back to the SOS App, the download will show as "Paused".


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